The Official Tottenham Hotspud thread [Vol 8]
Discussion
Rosscow said:
ascayman said:
Black can man said:
They all seem happy to be out of the cup over there , i 'm guessing just because they lost .
So they can concentrate on securing 8th place in the league. Last 10 games: Leicester 23 points, us 22. So we need to hope that our form continues and Leicester lose a couple. I just can't see where they are going to drop points. Obviously they aren't going win their next 14 but I can't see too many opportunities for them to be turned over either. Their last 3 are away to ManU, home to Everton, away to Chelsea but I can't see those 3 having anything to play for at that stage. I'm almost wishing that the Goons smash them at the weekend and destroy their confidence.... Crazy thing is, had we beaten them at WHL, when we created more than enough possession and chances to do so, we'd be top now!
TEKNOPUG said:
Last 10 games: Leicester 23 points, us 22. So we need to hope that our form continues and Leicester lose a couple. I just can't see where they are going to drop points. Obviously they aren't going win their next 14 but I can't see too many opportunities for them to be turned over either. Their last 3 are away to ManU, home to Everton, away to Chelsea but I can't see those 3 having anything to play for at that stage. I'm almost wishing that the Goons smash them at the weekend and destroy their confidence.... Crazy thing is, had we beaten them at WHL, when we created more than enough possession and chances to do so, we'd be top now!
And Newcastle at home, and Stoke at home, and Chelsea at home, and Arsenal away. So many opportunities!! Rosscow said:
And Newcastle at home, and Stoke at home, and Chelsea at home, and Arsenal away. So many opportunities!!
Chelsea away, last game of the season. Can't really see them putting much of a shift though, they won't have anything to play for other than maybe Terry's last game.How many of these games would you back them to lose, with your own money?
Premier League
Arsenal v Leicester Sun 14 Feb 12:00
Premier League
Leicester v Norwich Sat 27 Feb 15:00
Premier League
Leicester v West Brom Tue 1 Mar 19:45
Premier League
Watford v Leicester Sat 5 Mar 17:30
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Leicester v Newcastle Mon 14 Mar 20:00
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Crystal Palace v Leicester Sat 19 Mar 15:00
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Leicester v Southampton Sat 2 Apr 15:00
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Sunderland v Leicester Sat 9 Apr 15:00
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Leicester v West Ham Sat 16 Apr 15:00
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Leicester v Swansea Sat 23 Apr 15:00
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Man Utd v Leicester Sat 30 Apr 15:00
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Leicester v Everton Sat 7 May 15:00
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Chelsea v Leicester Sun 15 May 15:00
TEKNOPUG said:
Chelsea away, last game of the season. Can't really see them putting much of a shift though, they won't have anything to play for other than maybe Terry's last game.
How many of these games would you back them to lose, with your own money?
Premier League
Arsenal v Leicester Sun 14 Feb 12:00
Premier League
Chelsea v Leicester Sun 15 May 15:00
If I was a betting man, these are the only two I would back Leicester to lose and teh Chelsea game only because it is Terry's last game for the Chav's and it is at Stamford bridge so I expect Chelsea to come out all guns blazing for it.How many of these games would you back them to lose, with your own money?
Premier League
Arsenal v Leicester Sun 14 Feb 12:00
Premier League
Chelsea v Leicester Sun 15 May 15:00
...but- how much of your own money would anyone put on Leicester to win the premiership even now?
Not me, I don't think.
Imagine if we win at the weekend and they lose to Arsenal.
We would be having this discussion on Monday with 2 points in it and us with a far better goal difference.
Things would seem very different at that point
Not me, I don't think.
Imagine if we win at the weekend and they lose to Arsenal.
We would be having this discussion on Monday with 2 points in it and us with a far better goal difference.
Things would seem very different at that point
blindswelledrat said:
...but- how much of your own money would anyone put on Leicester to win the premiership even now?
Not me, I don't think.
Imagine if we win at the weekend and they lose to Arsenal.
We would be having this discussion on Monday with 2 points in it and us with a far better goal difference.
Things would seem very different at that point
Is it better to have the points on the board or be the stalking horse? Will come down to the belief and confidence of the players and possibly injuries.Not me, I don't think.
Imagine if we win at the weekend and they lose to Arsenal.
We would be having this discussion on Monday with 2 points in it and us with a far better goal difference.
Things would seem very different at that point
TEKNOPUG said:
Rosscow said:
And Newcastle at home, and Stoke at home, and Chelsea at home, and Arsenal away. So many opportunities!!
Chelsea away, last game of the season. Can't really see them putting much of a shift though, they won't have anything to play for other than maybe Terry's last game.How many of these games would you back them to lose, with your own money?
Premier League
Arsenal v Leicester Sun 14 Feb 12:00
Premier League
Leicester v Norwich Sat 27 Feb 15:00
Premier League
Leicester v West Brom Tue 1 Mar 19:45
Premier League
Watford v Leicester Sat 5 Mar 17:30
Premier League
Leicester v Newcastle Mon 14 Mar 20:00
Premier League
Crystal Palace v Leicester Sat 19 Mar 15:00
Premier League
Leicester v Southampton Sat 2 Apr 15:00
Premier League
Sunderland v Leicester Sat 9 Apr 15:00
Premier League
Leicester v West Ham Sat 16 Apr 15:00
Premier League
Leicester v Swansea Sat 23 Apr 15:00
Premier League
Man Utd v Leicester Sat 30 Apr 15:00
Premier League
Leicester v Everton Sat 7 May 15:00
Premier League
Chelsea v Leicester Sun 15 May 15:00
I think Leicester will beat Chelsea, especially if it means a victory for Chelsea means the title goes to us or god forbid that horrible lot down the road.
Hopefully Leicester will struggle to break the stubborn relegation threatened teams that will dig in deep in their own half.
I've had enough of this bloody Leicester City love in now , fingers crossed they f
k it up & finish below us & above the goons.
Hopefully Leicester will struggle to break the stubborn relegation threatened teams that will dig in deep in their own half.
I've had enough of this bloody Leicester City love in now , fingers crossed they f
k it up & finish below us & above the goons.http://www.football365.com/news/tottenham-the-titl...
Tottenham: The title race’s other fairytale
It’s a difficult thing, publicity. Those who get lots of it complain that it is suffocating. Those who get far less complain that they’re being ignored. Media attention isn’t like Goldilocks’ porridge; it’s never just right.
Yet even by reasonable standards, Tottenham’s title bid has flown under the radar. They are the statutory third slot on Match of the Day, the forgotten member of the three/four/five/six/seven challengers. During a week in which Michael Carrick has talked up Manchester United’s title hopes, few at his old club are clambering up to the rooftops to shout.
In an age where bad news sells far better than good, there has only been room for one fairytale. Leicester have that written, published and at No. 1 in the bestseller list. The only question is where they rank on an imaginary (and ultimately meaningless) all-time achievement list.
When Spurs moved up to second by beating Watford last weekend, even those enthralled by the Premier League raised an eyebrow, as if Pochettino’s side had effected a bizarre overtaking technique. Quique Sanchez Flores may have described Spurs’ players as “animals”, but they are closer to the tortoise than the hare. Actually, they’ve just got more points than 18 other clubs, and have lost only twice since the opening day.
Not that Tottenham’s manager minds the understated nature of this title challenge. “It is better not to speak too much, only to show, to work hard,” Pochettino says. “This is the better way to show we are ready to compete and after, we see what happens.” Pure Pochettino, the perfect quiet man for quiet improvement.
Pochettino has his own explanation for the lack of frenzy: “For me, historically Tottenham is one of the biggest clubs in England. It is not a surprise we are in a good position.”
Yet that assessment is misleading, whether wilfully or otherwise. Until 2006, Tottenham had never finished in the top six of the Premier League. It is 55 years since they won the Championship, and 53 since they finished in the top two. Twelve clubs have won the league since Tottenham in 1961: Ipswich Town, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United, Manchester City, Leeds, Arsenal, Derby County, Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea.
By every measure other than in comparison with Leicester, Tottenham’s title bid is remarkable. Their commercial income is just over half that of Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, and far less still than the two Manchester clubs. Their wage bill of £100m for 2014/15 was far lower than Arsenal (£192m), City (£194m), United (£204m) and Chelsea (£215m), and also £44m lower than Liverpool’s. The gap between Tottenham and Hull City in 18th in that salary ranking was the same as between Tottenham in sixth and Liverpool in fifth.
It goes beyond wages. Since June 2013, only one current Premier League club has made a profit on transfers: Tottenham. While selling Gareth Bale obviously distorts that statistic, it only underlines Pochettino’s recovery work. Across North London they might tell you to talk about net spend, fella, but at White Hart Lane actions speak louder than words.
On the field, Tottenham are enjoying the exuberance of youth without dwelling on the comparative lack of experience. Of the 14 players used against Watford on Saturday, nine were aged 23 or under. According to the excellent transfermarkt.co.uk, with an average age of just 24.6, Pochettino is in charge of the youngest squad in Europe’s top five leagues. This is over-performance, achieved well ahead of schedule.
Yet while Tottenham’s improvement is notable, it is not sexy. There is no stand-out player in the shape of Mesut Ozil, Sergio Aguero or Jamyad Vardrez, rather a number of exciting yet reliable parts combining to create a greater sum. The rise of Dele Alli has taken the pressure off Harry Kane, around whom the hysteria has mercifully abated. Kane has more league goals during this season than at this stage of last.
Instead, it is the rapid improvement in Tottenham’s defence that acts as the backbone to their title bid. Last season, they ranked 16th in the Premier League for goals conceded (53, more than relegated Hull City). The following is a list of teams in Europe’s top five leagues with a better goals conceded per game ratio in 2015/16: Bayern Munich, Juventus, Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid.
Tottenham ended last season having had 171 shots on target, allowing the same amount on their own goal. They were on the level, every strength counteracted by a weakness. This season, that same scoreline now reads 167-75. Pochettino has achieved three years’ work in 12 months.
Pochettino’s side face a test of their credentials at Manchester City on Sunday, and must soon balance participation in three different competitions with a smallish squad. But after Sunday they must play only one of the top eight away from home, and have now won six straight matches. Spurs really can do this.
There is nothing wrong with avoiding media scrutiny. In fact in a post-Bale, post-’Arry era, Tottenham have welcomed their time away from the spotlight’s glare. Reflection stops us going blindly along the path. Plaudits are fine until you start to believe them.
Yet it would be remiss not to appreciate what an extraordinary season this is for Tottenham, and they do not need to win the league to make that so. While everybody understandably marvels at Leicester, pokes fun at Manchester United and Chelsea and anticipates Pep Guardiola, there is a silent revolution going on at White Hart Lane.
Improvement in the individual makes headlines. Improvement in the team makes progress. Tottenham are the fairytale with no Prince Charming.
Tottenham: The title race’s other fairytale
It’s a difficult thing, publicity. Those who get lots of it complain that it is suffocating. Those who get far less complain that they’re being ignored. Media attention isn’t like Goldilocks’ porridge; it’s never just right.
Yet even by reasonable standards, Tottenham’s title bid has flown under the radar. They are the statutory third slot on Match of the Day, the forgotten member of the three/four/five/six/seven challengers. During a week in which Michael Carrick has talked up Manchester United’s title hopes, few at his old club are clambering up to the rooftops to shout.
In an age where bad news sells far better than good, there has only been room for one fairytale. Leicester have that written, published and at No. 1 in the bestseller list. The only question is where they rank on an imaginary (and ultimately meaningless) all-time achievement list.
When Spurs moved up to second by beating Watford last weekend, even those enthralled by the Premier League raised an eyebrow, as if Pochettino’s side had effected a bizarre overtaking technique. Quique Sanchez Flores may have described Spurs’ players as “animals”, but they are closer to the tortoise than the hare. Actually, they’ve just got more points than 18 other clubs, and have lost only twice since the opening day.
Not that Tottenham’s manager minds the understated nature of this title challenge. “It is better not to speak too much, only to show, to work hard,” Pochettino says. “This is the better way to show we are ready to compete and after, we see what happens.” Pure Pochettino, the perfect quiet man for quiet improvement.
Pochettino has his own explanation for the lack of frenzy: “For me, historically Tottenham is one of the biggest clubs in England. It is not a surprise we are in a good position.”
Yet that assessment is misleading, whether wilfully or otherwise. Until 2006, Tottenham had never finished in the top six of the Premier League. It is 55 years since they won the Championship, and 53 since they finished in the top two. Twelve clubs have won the league since Tottenham in 1961: Ipswich Town, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United, Manchester City, Leeds, Arsenal, Derby County, Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea.
By every measure other than in comparison with Leicester, Tottenham’s title bid is remarkable. Their commercial income is just over half that of Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, and far less still than the two Manchester clubs. Their wage bill of £100m for 2014/15 was far lower than Arsenal (£192m), City (£194m), United (£204m) and Chelsea (£215m), and also £44m lower than Liverpool’s. The gap between Tottenham and Hull City in 18th in that salary ranking was the same as between Tottenham in sixth and Liverpool in fifth.
It goes beyond wages. Since June 2013, only one current Premier League club has made a profit on transfers: Tottenham. While selling Gareth Bale obviously distorts that statistic, it only underlines Pochettino’s recovery work. Across North London they might tell you to talk about net spend, fella, but at White Hart Lane actions speak louder than words.
On the field, Tottenham are enjoying the exuberance of youth without dwelling on the comparative lack of experience. Of the 14 players used against Watford on Saturday, nine were aged 23 or under. According to the excellent transfermarkt.co.uk, with an average age of just 24.6, Pochettino is in charge of the youngest squad in Europe’s top five leagues. This is over-performance, achieved well ahead of schedule.
Yet while Tottenham’s improvement is notable, it is not sexy. There is no stand-out player in the shape of Mesut Ozil, Sergio Aguero or Jamyad Vardrez, rather a number of exciting yet reliable parts combining to create a greater sum. The rise of Dele Alli has taken the pressure off Harry Kane, around whom the hysteria has mercifully abated. Kane has more league goals during this season than at this stage of last.
Instead, it is the rapid improvement in Tottenham’s defence that acts as the backbone to their title bid. Last season, they ranked 16th in the Premier League for goals conceded (53, more than relegated Hull City). The following is a list of teams in Europe’s top five leagues with a better goals conceded per game ratio in 2015/16: Bayern Munich, Juventus, Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid.
Tottenham ended last season having had 171 shots on target, allowing the same amount on their own goal. They were on the level, every strength counteracted by a weakness. This season, that same scoreline now reads 167-75. Pochettino has achieved three years’ work in 12 months.
Pochettino’s side face a test of their credentials at Manchester City on Sunday, and must soon balance participation in three different competitions with a smallish squad. But after Sunday they must play only one of the top eight away from home, and have now won six straight matches. Spurs really can do this.
There is nothing wrong with avoiding media scrutiny. In fact in a post-Bale, post-’Arry era, Tottenham have welcomed their time away from the spotlight’s glare. Reflection stops us going blindly along the path. Plaudits are fine until you start to believe them.
Yet it would be remiss not to appreciate what an extraordinary season this is for Tottenham, and they do not need to win the league to make that so. While everybody understandably marvels at Leicester, pokes fun at Manchester United and Chelsea and anticipates Pep Guardiola, there is a silent revolution going on at White Hart Lane.
Improvement in the individual makes headlines. Improvement in the team makes progress. Tottenham are the fairytale with no Prince Charming.
London424 said:
I love it as people aren't really paying much attention to Spurs. It's only when the attention is really on that we become 'Spursy'.
It's astonishing,I'm not a betting man but I really fancy placing a few quid on spurs,the manager has done an unbelievable job and the lack of attention the press has given it is incredible.London424 said:
Has anyone head about ticket pricing yet? I think the Supporters Trust had a meeting with the club in the last couple of days.
I can't believe any owner in the current climate would increase prices, but Levy, and a stadium to pay for, the rationale is already written.
I'm a bit meh with ticket prices. It's supply and demand like any business, I don't see why football should be any different. If you don't want to pay the money, don't go. If enough people feel the same, they'll lower prices. What does piss me off though is the use of 3rd party companies like Stubbhub to resale fans tickets to fans. That's a fI can't believe any owner in the current climate would increase prices, but Levy, and a stadium to pay for, the rationale is already written.
king disgrace by the club.Rosscow said:
OK, I've gone and done it.
£2.50 on Spurs to do the treble @ 250/1
£2.50 on Spurs to do the treble @ 250/1
can't even buy a pint with that so might as well.In other news do any of you follow Alli and Dier on Twitter? Quite funny and you can see the spirit in the camp. Anthony Joshua has just joined in the latest piss taking.
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