The Official Tottenham Hotspud thread [Vol 8]
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Black can man said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-...
The goons quite rightly don't want to pay anyone over £200K a week whereas were not going to go over £100k a week !
Bloody madness , how are we going to compete ?
Our wage bill is already miles behind arse, city, Chelsea, utd and pool and yet we compete. The goons quite rightly don't want to pay anyone over £200K a week whereas were not going to go over £100k a week !
Bloody madness , how are we going to compete ?
Black can man said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-...
The goons quite rightly don't want to pay anyone over £200K a week whereas were not going to go over £100k a week !
Bloody madness , how are we going to compete ?
They spent double our wage bill every year for the last 10 years - they don't have much to show for it.The goons quite rightly don't want to pay anyone over £200K a week whereas were not going to go over £100k a week !
Bloody madness , how are we going to compete ?
I dont understand your wage bill now, your wage cap and Arsenals and many others does not seem to have changed since the new tv money came in giving each club about an extra 100m a year...
More tv money for the product will always mean the people that make the product (the players) want more money, goes hand in hand surely ? you cant have the same wage cap that you had pre tv money and expect to keep any players.... Any player with any half decent agent will want a slice of it...
Just like if you were part of a team that brought in an extra 100m in sales for your business you would want a slice of their profit.
More tv money for the product will always mean the people that make the product (the players) want more money, goes hand in hand surely ? you cant have the same wage cap that you had pre tv money and expect to keep any players.... Any player with any half decent agent will want a slice of it...
Just like if you were part of a team that brought in an extra 100m in sales for your business you would want a slice of their profit.
m3sye said:
More tv money for the product will always mean the people that make the product (the players) want more money, goes hand in hand surely ? you cant have the same wage cap that you had pre tv money and expect to keep any players.... Any player with any half decent agent will want a slice of it...
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You say that but since the TV deal we've re-signed 3/4's of our team to long term deals all within the budget. Levy is a genius when it comes to that. .
Where it harms us is when buying.
At the end of the day, no one who just kicks a ball around a field should be getting paid £100k a week, let alone £200k but the business of football has become huge. I think wage structures work to stop things getting even more silly. To be honest I think wage structures should be enforced by FIFA and everyone should have to adhere to them. It would stop teams just buying their way to the top, even the playing field a bit for the lessor teams and help promote developing home grown talent rather than just buying it in.
Unlimited wages benefit no one except the few top players earning millions and the rich clubs who can afford to pay them.
Unlimited wages benefit no one except the few top players earning millions and the rich clubs who can afford to pay them.
ascayman said:
You say that but since the TV deal we've re-signed 3/4's of our team to long term deals all within the budget. Levy is a genius when it comes to that.
Where it harms us is when buying.
I think its more a case of you have normal lads signing, not these top class foreigners , if you did no matter how much of a genius Levy is you would have problems....Where it harms us is when buying.
What would happen if you had Suarez, and he wanted 180k a week - do you break your wage structure? course you would as he is worth it....
Any decent agent would not accept for their players a 100k a wage wage cap if it was 100k a week cap 'before' the new tv money
People say footballers are paid well but is Hamiltons wage not about 450k a week ?
m3sye said:
I think its more a case of you have normal lads signing, not these top class foreigners , if you did no matter how much of a genius Levy is you would have problems....
What would happen if you had Suarez, and he wanted 180k a week - do you break your wage structure? course you would as he is worth it....
Any decent agent would not accept for their players a 100k a wage wage cap if it was 100k a week cap 'before' the new tv money
People say footballers are paid well but is Hamiltons wage not about 450k a week ?
contrary to what some people think some players make their own decisions. What would happen if you had Suarez, and he wanted 180k a week - do you break your wage structure? course you would as he is worth it....
Any decent agent would not accept for their players a 100k a wage wage cap if it was 100k a week cap 'before' the new tv money
People say footballers are paid well but is Hamiltons wage not about 450k a week ?
Pochettino's stock is pretty high so players will play for him for less money than other managers.
A high number wouldn't do it but a decent agent would advise young players like Alli and Kane to stay put for a couple of years.
It's not as if they are on the bread line.
m3sye said:
I dont understand your wage bill now, your wage cap and Arsenals and many others does not seem to have changed since the new tv money came in giving each club about an extra 100m a year...
More tv money for the product will always mean the people that make the product (the players) want more money, goes hand in hand surely ? you cant have the same wage cap that you had pre tv money and expect to keep any players.... Any player with any half decent agent will want a slice of it...
Just like if you were part of a team that brought in an extra 100m in sales for your business you would want a slice of their profit.
There is no actual evidence that there is a wage cap. It's just media speculation. What is more likely is that there is total salary expenditure that is budgeted for. So you can pay one player £200k if you like but then there is less to pay everyone else. Hence why you move players on before buying more. So it could be that we are increasing our wage bill without increasing the headline individual figure. Whereas we may have had one player on £100k and everyone else on £20k, we've now got half a dozen on £100k and everyone else on £60k.More tv money for the product will always mean the people that make the product (the players) want more money, goes hand in hand surely ? you cant have the same wage cap that you had pre tv money and expect to keep any players.... Any player with any half decent agent will want a slice of it...
Just like if you were part of a team that brought in an extra 100m in sales for your business you would want a slice of their profit.
Cue shouts "Spurs won't break £100k wage cap....."
m3sye said:
just to add, I agree with wage caps, I just think its very hard to do if you want to be a 'top club' when others dont implement them or if they do their levels are much higher..
But we've been out performing many of these clubs anyway. Look at your wage bill v ours.We are just run differently (some would argue for sale..)
ascayman said:
But we've been out performing many of these clubs anyway. Look at your wage bill v ours.
We are just run differently (some would argue for sale..)
Same with LFC, nearly all big earners were shipped out when FSG came, especially if they were on the wrong side of 26 We are just run differently (some would argue for sale..)
Our wage bill has dropped LOADS over the last few years since FSG came in ...
m3sye said:
Same with LFC, nearly all big earners were shipped out when FSG came, especially if they were on the wrong side of 26
Our wage bill has dropped LOADS over the last few years since FSG came in ...
Has it....http://sillyseason.com/list/salaries/premier-league-clubs-wage-bills-69064/Our wage bill has dropped LOADS over the last few years since FSG came in ...
You pay nearly £45m per year more to finish below us.
m3sye said:
ascayman said:
Has it....http://sillyseason.com/list/salaries/premier-league-clubs-wage-bills-69064/
You pay nearly £45m per year more to finish below us.
Pre Klopp You pay nearly £45m per year more to finish below us.
with Klopp you will need to up it haha I also could easily say you paid 60m+ to finish 2 places below Leicester
that was of course a one off, where as recently we are pretty consistent when it comes to finishing above you despite spending far less in bothe transfer fees and wages. Also you seem to be losing your own argument
A min ago you said 'Our wage bill has dropped LOADS over the last few years since FSG came in ...' except its actually gone up
ascayman said:
its true we did, im not in denial that was of course a one off, where as recently we are pretty consistent when it comes to finishing above you despite spending far less in bothe transfer fees and wages.
Also you seem to be losing your own argument
A min ago you said 'Our wage bill has dropped LOADS over the last few years since FSG came in ...' except its actually gone up
Ill be honest that does surpise me, as we shifted loads of high earners out and brought loads of younger players in on lower wages, that was of course a one off, where as recently we are pretty consistent when it comes to finishing above you despite spending far less in bothe transfer fees and wages. Also you seem to be losing your own argument
A min ago you said 'Our wage bill has dropped LOADS over the last few years since FSG came in ...' except its actually gone up
Compare these players wages
Suarez
Reina
Gerrard
Sterling
Agger
Skrtel
to
Migs
Can
Firmino
Matip
Lovren
We are all well down per week, and our 'squad' players tend to be young and on low wages so I am very shocked they have gone up... list of our wages are here
Liverpool Player Wages & Contracts 2016-17
PLAYER AGE WEEKLY WAGE CONTRACT LEFT
Simon Mignolet
28 £60,000 5 Years (2021)
Loris Karius (new signing)
23 £15,000 5 Years (2021)
Alexander Manninger
39 £5,000 1 Year (2017)
Mamadou Sakho
26 £75,000 4 Years (2020)
Joel Matip (new signing)
25 £70,000 4 Years (2020)
Dejan Lovren 27 £65,000 3 Years (2019)
Ragnar Klavan (new signing) 30 £55,000 3 Years (2019)
Joe Gomez 19 £10,000 4 Years (2020)
Tiago Ilori
23 £10,000 2 Years (2018)
Alberto Moreno
24 £40,000 3 Years (2019)
Nathaniel Clyne
25 £70,000 4 Years (2020)
Andre Wisdom
23 £10,000 3 Years (2019)
Emre Can
22 £55,000 2 Years (2018)
Lucas Leiva 29 £80,000 1 Year (2017)
Kevin Stewart 22 4 Years (2020)
Jordan Henderson 26 £100,000 4 Years (2020)
James Milner 30 £120,000
Marko Grujic (new signing) 20 £15,000 4 Years (2020)
Philippe Coutinho 24 £75,000 4 Years (2020)
Georginio Wijnaldum (new signing) 25 £90,000 5 Years (2021)
Adam Lallana 28 £65,000 3 Years (2019)
Sadio Mané (new signing) 24 £90,000 5 Years (2021)
Sheyi Ojo
19 £1,000 4 Years (2020)
Lazar Markovic
22 £45,000 3 Years (2019)
Roberto Firmino 24 £100,000 4 Years (2020)
Daniel Sturridge 26 £120,000 3 Years (2019)
Danny Ings 24 £60,000 4 Years (2020)
Divock Origi 21 £25,000 3 Years (2019)
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