The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 11]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 11]

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type-r

14,086 posts

214 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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jammy_basturd said:
This should cheer you guys up, another one of our defenders goes off on loan: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/tran....
Good move. Chance to really shine in a B league. Still think he has a future with us but needs to have an outstanding season.

So just Balotelli and Markovic to go!

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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So at the time we are doubting how we now set up to attack we forget that we have scored more prem goals in 2016 than any other team in the prem

Yes we conceed and we all know but Rome and all that .......

Jammy is totally right and to think you can play the pressing game with 10 is just crazy..there will always be a free man, let him get know with it and if in a year or 2 were no closer then maybe we should hit volume 100 .

type-r

14,086 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Balotelli moving to Nice on loan, according to Paul Joyce.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/705061/Liv...

Adam B

27,257 posts

255 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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type-r said:
Balotelli moving to Nice on loan, according to Paul Joyce.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/705061/Liv...
Frustrating as effectively his contract ends and he leaves for free. Although I can understand why no one anted to buy the lazy arrogant tosspot

Flip Martian

19,703 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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RedTrident said:
Add the saved wages. We're also buying emerging players that are on less than some of the players we are replacing.

I'm sure when FSG look back on their tenure they'll judge it a huge success. They'll have probably tripled their initial investment. Winning trophies or titles is secondary to them than making money.

As businessmen I have nothing but admiration for them. Build up a team that isn't complete but has the right foundations for someone else to pick up and take us to a higher level. It's like buying a house that you know with 20k of rufubishment will get you a 60k return should you choose to sell. These guys know what they're doing. Klopp and the stadium will help them make loads more money. The next owner needs to see that the ingredients are there for them to also be successful.

Meanwhile these guys are putting money in the bank, new stand income, new TVs income, reduced wage bill.
Forgetting what they've forked out for the new stand?

Flip Martian

19,703 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Adam B said:
type-r said:
Balotelli moving to Nice on loan, according to Paul Joyce.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/705061/Liv...
Frustrating as effectively his contract ends and he leaves for free. Although I can understand why no one anted to buy the lazy arrogant tosspot
Well rid, its good news. There must be some element of a loaning fee or contribution to his wages, otherwise we'd let him rot at home. Good to see in that article that Danny Ings won't be loaned out, too. Looking forward to seeing him get some game time.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Flip Martian said:
Forgetting what they've forked out for the new stand?
The new stand payment isn't worked out that way. How much do you think they paid for the new stand?

Turquoise

1,457 posts

98 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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It's still a huge outgoing expense and has to be factored into your argument.

type-r

14,086 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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I suspect the naming rights itself will cover the cost of the stadium redevelopment over a 10-year period. Emirates paid around £100m to Arsenal and recently renegotiated a new deal at £150m. If Anfield cost £114m to redevelop as originally proposed, FSG will have it done it for "free". Smart business guys!

Flip Martian

19,703 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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RedTrident said:
The new stand payment isn't worked out that way. How much do you think they paid for the new stand?
Not a clue but I assume its costing several hundred million, however its being paid for?

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Emirates have whole stadium naming rights, we're just looking to sell naming rights on the stand.

Besides which, FSG have stumped up a lot of their own cash so far investing in LFC and taken not a penny out of the club. They also wrote off £69m of debt, essentially gifting £70m to the club. On top of that, time and again they've allowed us to buy players in before selling players to help fund those purchases and we've had way more transfer windows of positive net spend than negative.

Turquoise

1,457 posts

98 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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And of course, it's Klopp who has decided who to bring in and who to ship out. If he wants to spend more, FSG will provide the funds, of that there is no doubt.

Pommygranite

14,261 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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It's bloody déjà vu in here


Flip Martian

19,703 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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type-r said:
I suspect the naming rights itself will cover the cost of the stadium redevelopment over a 10-year period. Emirates paid around £100m to Arsenal and recently renegotiated a new deal at £150m. If Anfield cost £114m to redevelop as originally proposed, FSG will have it done it for "free". Smart business guys!
They haven't done it for free - for 1 thing, you just think this scenario is what's happened, and for another, if it is that or something similar, they've still had to stump up the money NOW. Getting that money back in the future is a given, however its done.

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Cost in the region of 240m , of which the local council paid half...

No naming rights yet, but i expect there will be very soon......

Flip Martian

19,703 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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I hate international breaks... hehe

joshcowin

6,811 posts

177 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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m3sye said:
Cost in the region of 240m , of which the local council paid half...

No naming rights yet, but i expect there will be very soon......
Out of interest why would the council pay half? tourism?


type-r

14,086 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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laugh

Shall we get back to LB and DM's crisis scenario's?

type-r

14,086 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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joshcowin said:
Out of interest why would the council pay half? tourism?
Regeneration of the local area. The streets and houses around Anfield are in a pretty dire state...

Adam B

27,257 posts

255 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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jammy_basturd said:
Emirates have whole stadium naming rights, we're just looking to sell naming rights on the stand.

Besides which, FSG have stumped up a lot of their own cash so far investing in LFC and taken not a penny out of the club. They also wrote off £69m of debt, essentially gifting £70m to the club. On top of that, time and again they've allowed us to buy players in before selling players to help fund those purchases and we've had way more transfer windows of positive net spend than negative.
To be clear I am far from anti-FSG and think they have been good guardians to date, accepting they are a business and LFC is a business investment like most clubs these days. But your grasp of finance seems to be limited. There was no gift, they simply paid X plus Y debt, and they got a very good deal due to those shysters G&H being hung by their own legal loophole.
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