The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 11]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 11]

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joshcowin

6,811 posts

177 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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type-r said:
joshcowin said:
Out of interest why would the council pay half? tourism?
Regeneration of the local area. The streets and houses around Anfield are in a pretty dire state...
Great thanks!!

Also I am pretty happy with where we are at this stage of the season as has been said (the last 10 pages has been tedious) we have played no home games and we have drawn and won against two decent teams!

I hate international breaks, but this one might Klopp valuable time to work with certain members of the team!

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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They took on £69m in debt in the form of directors loan which they have now wrote off. Tell me how that is not essentially gifting £70m to the club?

RedTrident

8,290 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Nor am I anti FSG. They see us as a business and their aim is to make money. Every decision they make is from this starting place. But the tv money has not gone to paying for the stadium. It'll be repaid over x years and will be covered by the naming rights to the stand and the extra income generated from all of those new corporate seats.

Also, they did not gift the club any money. They invested around 300 million from what I've read. If they were to sell now they'd easily triple their money. Again I have nothing against this.

As for if Klopp wanted a player he could have him. That's just an opinion, I just don't see why a manager, any manager would go in to a season without a left back, any right back cover, weak in midfield and with a choice of 3 strikers from which he only fancies the young developing one.

Every window we've spent money in recent years has on the whole been funded by the sale of players. Suarez, Sterling and most recently the combination of Ibe, Allen, Skrtel, Benteke and loads of squad fillers.

Clearly FSG will look to Leicester as proof their approach works. Rather than see Leicester last season a freak result.

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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joshcowin said:
Out of interest why would the council pay half? tourism?
Also jobs over 1000 new jobs with the new stand...

We have a limit of 60k from the council, after that there would have to be some major changes , ie transport routes...

type-r

14,086 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Not sure how much truth there is in this one, as usually Melissa Reddy just does interviews rather than being an out-and-out journo...

Still if Benitez and Newcastle are ready to splash £16m on Markovic... Liverpool will have done really, really well!

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/...

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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It's about time we got some money back from Newcastle!!

Turquoise

1,457 posts

98 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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RedTrident said:
As for if Klopp wanted a player he could have him. That's just an opinion.
RedTrident said:
Clearly FSG will look to Leicester as proof their approach works. Rather than see Leicester last season a freak result.
So what is that apart from just an opinion too?

Turquoise

1,457 posts

98 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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type-r said:
Not sure how much truth there is in this one, as usually Melissa Reddy just does interviews rather than being an out-and-out journo...

Still if Benitez and Newcastle are ready to splash £16m on Markovic... Liverpool will have done really, really well!

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/...
Good boy Rafa!!

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Turquoise said:
RedTrident said:
As for if Klopp wanted a player he could have him. That's just an opinion.
RedTrident said:
Clearly FSG will look to Leicester as proof their approach works. Rather than see Leicester last season a freak result.
So what is that apart from just an opinion too?
Get used to RT phrasing opinion as fact.

Apparently we've paid for the stadium in IOUs because all the suppliers and contractors are happy for naming rights partners to pay over the next 10 years!

ferrisbueller

29,339 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Have we signed Lloris yet?

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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ferrisbueller said:
Have we signed Lloris yet?
You don't sign Lloris! Lloris signs you.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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jammy_basturd said:
Turquoise said:
RedTrident said:
As for if Klopp wanted a player he could have him. That's just an opinion.
RedTrident said:
Clearly FSG will look to Leicester as proof their approach works. Rather than see Leicester last season a freak result.
So what is that apart from just an opinion too?
Get used to RT phrasing opinion as fact.

Apparently we've paid for the stadium in IOUs because all the suppliers and contractors are happy for naming rights partners to pay over the next 10 years!
FSGs approach to players is well documented.

As for the stadium. Loans and mortgages are not a new concept. They'll have borrowed the money and will have factored in to pay it back over the next 10 years.

type-r

14,086 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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This one looks like it could get ugly...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/foot...

RedTrident

8,290 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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type-r said:
This one looks like it could get ugly...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/foot...
How can we claim we have Joe Gomez on the comeback trail and claim he is a potential centre back option when he's not played for longer than Sakho and even when he did it was a bit part role?

This is all about Sakho and Klopp I think.

Flip Martian

19,704 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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RedTrident said:
Nor am I anti FSG. They see us as a business and their aim is to make money. Every decision they make is from this starting place. But the tv money has not gone to paying for the stadium. It'll be repaid over x years and will be covered by the naming rights to the stand and the extra income generated from all of those new corporate seats.

Also, they did not gift the club any money. They invested around 300 million from what I've read. If they were to sell now they'd easily triple their money. Again I have nothing against this.
So why keep talking about FSG and their desire to make money so many times in such negative terms? It is what it is. There's no evidence they are starving Klopp or the club of funds - the only negative I can see so far going forward (forgetting their mistakes since they took the club over with the transfer committee) is the ticket price increase debacle.

type-r

14,086 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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RedTrident said:
This is all about Sakho and Klopp I think.
Klopp is laying down the law. You want to be part of my team, then you have to play by my rules. You want to prank about, take fat burners and turn up late, p!ss off somewhere else until you can prove your professionalism to me and you show me the hunger and desire.

I am 100% backing Klopp on this.

Adam B

27,257 posts

255 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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jammy_basturd said:
They took on £69m in debt in the form of directors loan which they have now wrote off. Tell me how that is not essentially gifting £70m to the club?
Because if they valued the club at (say) £400m they would have paid £330m in cash and agreed to take on debt, standard practice in any company purchase, see BHS being bought for a £1 but taking on huge pension deficit

epom

11,543 posts

162 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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type-r said:
RedTrident said:
This is all about Sakho and Klopp I think.
Klopp is laying down the law. You want to be part of my team, then you have to play by my rules. You want to prank about, take fat burners and turn up late, p!ss off somewhere else until you can prove your professionalism to me and you show me the hunger and desire.

I am 100% backing Klopp on this.
Agreed, the buck stops with the manager. Needs to show who is boss. Good for Klopp, and football in general to be honest.

Flip Martian

19,704 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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epom said:
type-r said:
RedTrident said:
This is all about Sakho and Klopp I think.
Klopp is laying down the law. You want to be part of my team, then you have to play by my rules. You want to prank about, take fat burners and turn up late, p!ss off somewhere else until you can prove your professionalism to me and you show me the hunger and desire.

I am 100% backing Klopp on this.
Agreed, the buck stops with the manager. Needs to show who is boss. Good for Klopp, and football in general to be honest.
Yup, all that. Totally agree.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Adam B said:
jammy_basturd said:
They took on £69m in debt in the form of directors loan which they have now wrote off. Tell me how that is not essentially gifting £70m to the club?
Because if they valued the club at (say) £400m they would have paid £330m in cash and agreed to take on debt, standard practice in any company purchase, see BHS being bought for a £1 but taking on huge pension deficit
But the salient point is that they took on that debt as directors loans. They could have left it as that and been able to take £70m out of the club at any time they like, tax free. But they haven't, they wrote off the debt and now LFC are no longer liable to pay any of that £70m back to any one.
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