The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 11]
Discussion
desolate said:
Above all else, unlike a certain poster on here, he is never boring. So that's not a bad place to be after just over 12 months in charge.
You should go back to championing Charlie Adam in the all time best premier team starting 11 because he once played for Liverpool. Give over with the silly back handed digs. I call it as I see it, always have. Karius is a very poor goal keeper. He may get better but even former Liverpool players are asking the same questions of him. Tell me what he has done that is significantly an improvement on Mignolet? It certainly isn't his distribution as I've never seen a keeper send a dead ball out for a corner before.
Sye - do you really think Klopp has scouted Karius for several years? I just don't see it.
And the point about Moreno costing us last season is valid. As is the point of not just why play Lucas centre back ahead of a world class French international but also ahead of a centre back that you bought? Ferguson earned the right to do what he did with Beckham and Ince before him.
Once Klopp has won something season after season then he'll earn if not blind faith, trust in his judgement. Until then I and others will carry on questioning his decision making when it goes wrong.
Reading the news stories today it seemed the game plan was to target our weak link keeper.
m3sye said:
#LFC 2016/17
With Matip - 11 games, conceded 9 goals - DWWWWDWWWDW
Without Matip - 3 games, conceded 9 goals
Matip is a very very good centre back. Those stats are telling. Hopefully we buy a decent centre back to play alongside him/ cover him. Lucas being picked ahead of Klavan is telling imo, particularly in an away league game!With Matip - 11 games, conceded 9 goals - DWWWWDWWWDW
Without Matip - 3 games, conceded 9 goals
RedTrident said:
Stuff
Crack on, MacDuff.I am sure others will keep calling you out for being the bore that you are.
Yep, Karius looks s
te. No one is saying anything different. It was just so boringly predictable that you start giving it large after a defeat.
Edited to add: interesting stance on Klopp from our resident big'ead as well.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 5th December 19:36
desolate said:
RedTrident said:
Stuff
Crack on, MacDuff.I am sure others will keep calling you out for being the bore that you are.
Yep, Karius looks s
te. No one is saying anything different. It was just so boringly predictable that you start giving it large after a defeat.
Edited to add: interesting stance on Klopp from our resident big'ead as well.
Edited by desolate on Monday 5th December 19:36
We can pick this up when the inevitable happens and Karius blunders again as I don't think what he did over the weekend was anything out of character for him.
RedTrident said:
What was boring you predictable is that you and others are not really disagreeing with me. Just the usual blind faith line you had for Mr Rodgers.
We can pick this up when the inevitable happens and Karius blunders again as I don't think what he did over the weekend was anything out of character for him.
It's not a question of blind faith - the questions are about you and your posts. Look at the post above quoting you about Milner - you try to talk with great authority but you just repeat yourself, with added contradiction when it suits.We can pick this up when the inevitable happens and Karius blunders again as I don't think what he did over the weekend was anything out of character for him.
In the post above you said:-
RedTrident said:
And the point about Moreno costing us last season is valid. As is the point of not just why play Lucas centre back ahead of a world class French international but also ahead of a centre back that you bought? Ferguson earned the right to do what he did with Beckham and Ince before him.
Once Klopp has won something season after season then he'll earn if not blind faith, trust in his judgement. Until then I and others will carry on questioning his decision making when it goes wrong.
Reading the news stories today it seemed the game plan was to target our weak link keeper.
This effectively says that you don't think the Klopp has earned the right to drop Sakho.Once Klopp has won something season after season then he'll earn if not blind faith, trust in his judgement. Until then I and others will carry on questioning his decision making when it goes wrong.
Reading the news stories today it seemed the game plan was to target our weak link keeper.
Quite a statement.
Plenty of people question players and certain decisions - just not with the stench of arrogance and bulls
t that comes across in your posts.desolate said:
RedTrident said:
What was boring you predictable is that you and others are not really disagreeing with me. Just the usual blind faith line you had for Mr Rodgers.
We can pick this up when the inevitable happens and Karius blunders again as I don't think what he did over the weekend was anything out of character for him.
It's not a question of blind faith - the questions are about you and your posts. Look at the post above quoting you about Milner - you try to talk with great authority but you just repeat yourself, with added contradiction when it suits.We can pick this up when the inevitable happens and Karius blunders again as I don't think what he did over the weekend was anything out of character for him.
In the post above you said:-
RedTrident said:
And the point about Moreno costing us last season is valid. As is the point of not just why play Lucas centre back ahead of a world class French international but also ahead of a centre back that you bought? Ferguson earned the right to do what he did with Beckham and Ince before him.
Once Klopp has won something season after season then he'll earn if not blind faith, trust in his judgement. Until then I and others will carry on questioning his decision making when it goes wrong.
Reading the news stories today it seemed the game plan was to target our weak link keeper.
This effectively says that you don't think the Klopp has earned the right to drop Sakho.Once Klopp has won something season after season then he'll earn if not blind faith, trust in his judgement. Until then I and others will carry on questioning his decision making when it goes wrong.
Reading the news stories today it seemed the game plan was to target our weak link keeper.
Quite a statement.
Plenty of people question players and certain decisions - just not with the stench of arrogance and bulls
t that comes across in your posts.Jesus Christ, 1 dodgy result and the same OTT criticism starts, then the same conversations start all over again. Its been a harmonious few weeks too. RT is quick to find fault, we know that. We can all see the same faults but we just voice them differently or are happy to see how things go without demanding immediate change/questioning who should have been taken off and when.
Let's try and move on or this won't stop until we start winning and no-one puts a foot wrong again.
Let's try and move on or this won't stop until we start winning and no-one puts a foot wrong again.
Edited by Flip Martian on Tuesday 6th December 07:51
Flip Martian said:
Jesus Christ, 1 dodgy result and the same OTT criticism starts, then the same conversations start all over again. Its been a harmonious few weeks too. RT is quick to find fault, we know that. We can all see the same faults but we just voice them differently or are happy to see how things go without demanding immediate change/questioning who should have been taken off and when.
Let's try and move on or this won't stop until we start winning and no-one puts a foot wrong again.
I think I have defined why we are all like we are (or this thread at least) its that LFC dont play well and lose ie we normally lose when we have a short middy as CB or a striker misses a sitter - hence we argue.Let's try and move on or this won't stop until we start winning and no-one puts a foot wrong again.
Edited by Flip Martian on Tuesday 6th December 07:51
If LFC would have performed after scoring 3 (as in shut up shop) and still lost we would all be relatively ok but yadda yadda yadda that didnt happen.
I am dreading this place if WH get anything
As several have remarked, RT jumps in with both feet as soon as we have a bad result. What he says often comes across as arrogant and that winds up others who then have a go back and then it continues (guilty of this myself). Far better to bite tongues and not take the bait, if poss.
While its been quieter this season its also been more constructive and informed. And enjoyable, up to now. We could perhaps try and get back to that.
While its been quieter this season its also been more constructive and informed. And enjoyable, up to now. We could perhaps try and get back to that.
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