The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 11]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 11]

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Pommygranite

14,252 posts

216 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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type-r said:
Anyone see the West Ham v Arsenal game on the weekend? West Ham were very, very poor. They just looked like a team that would end up conceding 5 goals that game, even at 0-0.... and Arsenal weren't doing too much either - they were decent, not spectacular.
I don't like playing clubs on the back of mega defeats - always feel like they'll get their st together and well under estimate them.

joshcowin

6,802 posts

176 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Manager is under a lot of pressure as well, could be a tough match!

Mopey

2,396 posts

155 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Season defining no less.

Silvernoble883

249 posts

96 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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RedTrident said:
Clown. Get stuffed with the insults. You just can't help yourself.

If anything what the club did to Dalglish was disgraceful, asking him to do something that was beyond his capabilities. It'd be like asking my grandad to cover fake guitar in the latest boy band.
I have to disagree, Dalglish did bloody brilliantly when he came back, I was gutted when the club moved him on.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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jammy-git said:
RedTrident said:
TerryThomas said:
He calls a club legend like Dalglish dogleash?

Why? What's the relevance? It's not even funny?
Really? I did that.
Selective memory now?
I don't remember referring to him as doglesh. I recall referring to him as a relic.

BossHogg

6,010 posts

178 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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TerryThomas said:
Season defining evidence.
And no electric sea urchin landmine plugs to be seen! biggrin

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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RedTrident said:
I don't remember referring to him as doglesh. I recall referring to him as a relic.
My post above is a direct quote.
There are plenty of other examples to be found by using the PH search function.

We all make mistakes, so try not to be too hard on yourself.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Pommygranite said:
And lets not forget some of ManUTridents 'quality' punditry and 'expert' player analysis:


9 May 2015: 'I'd sell/get rid of Lovren'

5 October 2015: 'Lallana or Firmino or Coutinho (too similar imo for 1 position, 1 must go)'

5 October 2015: ' No one is going to get Coutinho, Firmino and Lallana in the same team'

5 October 2015: 'No one in their right mind is going to play Lovren ahead of Sakho'

5 October 2015: 'For instance, I look at Mario and think next to Sturridge he'd be excellent. I look at Lallana and for the life of me I can't see where he fits in, especially with Coutinho and Firmino in the squad'

3 Aug 2016: 'Lallana, Ings, Henderson and Milner (4 English internationals) will struggle to get into this team, particularly with the signings Klopp has made'
I'd still sell Lovren

Lallana, Coutinho and Firmino only fit post Klopp, especially after the Chelsea game last season. Let's not pretend Mr Rodgers had any idea how to make it work.

Sakho is the better defender. You can disagree but the stats will back it up

I think Mario would have been better in a front 2. He didn't exactly work at as a lone striker did he? I also think Sturridge is less effective as a lone striker.

Give it time, Ings won't get a game as anything other than a squad filler. Klopp as an emergency measure is playing Milner at left back (though he is doing well) and I still think Henderson will be sold sometime during the rebuilding of the squad. It's only Lallana who has transformed his game sinc Klopp came in.

I look forward to January and the summer when we see an upgrade on Lovren, another central midfielder and the sale of Sturridge who doesn't fit in to either this style or as a lone striker.

I'm not sure where your tag team efforts are getting you when you're resorting to my opinion on Lovren.


RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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desolate said:
RedTrident said:
I don't remember referring to him as doglesh. I recall referring to him as a relic.
My post above is a direct quote.
There are plenty of other examples to be found by using the PH search function.

We all make mistakes, so try not to be too hard on yourself.
Really. I called him Doglesh? I'm surprised by that. I particularly liked the term relic.

You guys can continue to back Karius. I'm prepared to say he is the worst first choice keeper I've seen in my life playing for us. Westerveld and Mignolet run him close. You can say it's too early to judge, but all that means is that right now you agree with my thoughts but want to give him time where he may get better.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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RedTrident said:
Really. I called him Doglesh? I'm surprised by that. I particularly liked the term relic.
Yes you did. Several times. And dog st.

This goes some way to explaining why I, along with several other posters it appears, have a low regard for you.


Your posts smack of arrogance and you have no regard for the wider history of the club.

So just as managers and players can be turds, so can those who profess to be a fan.


RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Well he got sacked didn't he or did I miss that bit?

It wasn't his fault. I think he shouldn't have been given the longer contract. The man was a relic from a bygone era where for a while, a short while, who he is made all the difference. Then he bought Charlie Adam, Andy Carroll and Downing. As I said, football from the 80s. Maybe it suits Stoke.

And I still think the tshirts thing post Suarez was embarrassing.


RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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desolate said:
So just as managers and players can be turds, so can those who profess to be a fan.
I'd rather have my own opinion than have my head stuck up someone's backside licking turd. As I'm sure that is what some other fans do when enchanted by shiny white teeth and a big watch.

We can continue with the thinly veiled insults if you like. Won't change my analysis of Karius. So far he has been useless.

Adam B

27,244 posts

254 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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jammy-git said:
m3sye said:
desolate said:
I was thinking the game at the weekend.
Mistake at the end, plus general crapness throughout.
The draw rather than 3 points... we were 3 3 when he made the error
And even then... It should never have got to 3-3!! So maybe one goal he conceded in that game where he could have done better. Yes it happened to be the fourth, but in my mind that loss should be blamed on the whole team.
he should have saved the 2nd and 4th

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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RedTrident said:
I'd rather have my own opinion than have my head stuck up someone's backside licking turd. As I'm sure that is what some other fans do when enchanted by shiny white teeth and a big watch.

We can continue with the thinly veiled insults if you like. Won't change my analysis of Karius. So far he has been useless.
I didn't realise my insults were thinly veiled. I thought I was calling a turd a turd.

Anyway I agree that we are all entitled to an opinion and to express it on this forum.

As long as we all understand that you think it is acceptable to call Dalglish 'dogleash' and to refer to him as 'dog st' then we can move on.

You will get no argument from me about Karius. And i'll just have to chuckle to myself when you say that Klopp needs to 'earn the right' to drop a player because of his behaviour.


RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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We played Lucas as first choice centre back because of a spat Klopp has had with Sakho and the other centre back Klavan not being good enough. Those things were evident last weekend.

I have no criticism of freezing out Sakho, I do have criticism if what you do once you've frozen him out is play Lucas at centre back.

lenandsons

1,317 posts

233 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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there is a simple resolution to all the yadda yadda regarding Red Trident, it is so simple it is called ignore !!! works wonderfuly and you get to read the thread a lot quicker chaps

TerryThomas

1,228 posts

91 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Klavan would do better than Lucas. Strange decision. And while I'm sure Klavan knew he wouldn't be first choice when he joined, being 4th choice is bks.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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lenandsons said:
there is a simple resolution to all the yadda yadda regarding Red Trident, it is so simple it is called ignore !!! works wonderfuly and you get to read the thread a lot quicker chaps
Did you perhaps think that people might actually enjoy the discussion with me? Hadn't you left by the way? Never to post here if I remained in the style of some others. smile

joshcowin

6,802 posts

176 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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RedTrident said:
We played Lucas as first choice centre back because of a spat Klopp has had with Sakho and the other centre back Klavan not being good enough. Those things were evident last weekend.

I have no criticism of freezing out Sakho, I do have criticism if what you do once you've frozen him out is play Lucas at centre back.
So you are saying that you know 100% that Sakho would have played better in the game than Lucas did. I often say this but Klopp is surrounded by the squad all week he IS a better football manager than me and you.

No one is perfect, chill out get behind the team! We are third in the PL no football team or squad are perfect.

RT do you actually enjoy watching football/Liverpool?

joshcowin

6,802 posts

176 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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TerryThomas said:
Klavan would do better than Lucas. Strange decision.
Klopp didn't think so
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