The Official 2016/17 Premier League Predictathon Thread
Discussion
Thanks Garry.
I think that each week I'll have to devote about an hour or more to this from start to finish so, to look at it another way, at least 1 hour or more per season for each player. And I'm sorry nascarrules but I can't be doing that for people who might drop out without even so much as an explanation as to why they are dropping out being posted making garry's work for them all last season a complete waste of his time. I need to cut this workload back and I'm afraid you and others who did likewise are a logical choice. I'm sorry and I hope you understand its nothing personal.
I think that each week I'll have to devote about an hour or more to this from start to finish so, to look at it another way, at least 1 hour or more per season for each player. And I'm sorry nascarrules but I can't be doing that for people who might drop out without even so much as an explanation as to why they are dropping out being posted making garry's work for them all last season a complete waste of his time. I need to cut this workload back and I'm afraid you and others who did likewise are a logical choice. I'm sorry and I hope you understand its nothing personal.
The jiffle king said:
mickk said:
Although I'd rather we left Lawro out I'll post his forcasts guesses each week if the majority wish him to stay.
Happy he stays, but would prefer a PH'er over Lawro given the choice. Lawro has been no competition over the years
Dear All
Having watched as 2 posters either read and then ignored my posts or didn’t read them at all I’ve decided to take last years Rules posted by GarryDK and amend them in their entirety.
The bits that are new or a change from last year are in Bold.
I need you people to be a lean, mean, fighting wet dream this season to help me be successful with my stewardship and to enable you to have a rewarding predictathon. To that end the rules that follow may appear abrupt but I think that after the amount of drop-outs and non-postings I witnessed last season the tone I set for this season must be less Touchy-Feely/Happy-Clappy and more Interview at Guantanamo.
Please make sure you are conversant with the rules that follow
The big change you are unaware of is the move to 6pm Friday night as the limit for you to post each weekends predictions – it is no longer Midnight! The EPL have decided to play (and sell to TV) a single game on at least 10 Fridays and thought it would be a great wheeze not to reveal either the dates when all 10 (or more) are to be played or the kick off times - but I assume it will be 7:45pm.
So I’m afraid that means ALL forecasts have to be in by Friday at 6pm – even if there is no game being played on Friday night. Continuity is king here and I need you all to get your heads around this new time each week by making it compulsory for each weekend.
I will reiterate this point in the rules that follow.
If you’ve got any questions please keep them to yourself.
Having watched as 2 posters either read and then ignored my posts or didn’t read them at all I’ve decided to take last years Rules posted by GarryDK and amend them in their entirety.
The bits that are new or a change from last year are in Bold.
I need you people to be a lean, mean, fighting wet dream this season to help me be successful with my stewardship and to enable you to have a rewarding predictathon. To that end the rules that follow may appear abrupt but I think that after the amount of drop-outs and non-postings I witnessed last season the tone I set for this season must be less Touchy-Feely/Happy-Clappy and more Interview at Guantanamo.
Please make sure you are conversant with the rules that follow
The big change you are unaware of is the move to 6pm Friday night as the limit for you to post each weekends predictions – it is no longer Midnight! The EPL have decided to play (and sell to TV) a single game on at least 10 Fridays and thought it would be a great wheeze not to reveal either the dates when all 10 (or more) are to be played or the kick off times - but I assume it will be 7:45pm.
So I’m afraid that means ALL forecasts have to be in by Friday at 6pm – even if there is no game being played on Friday night. Continuity is king here and I need you all to get your heads around this new time each week by making it compulsory for each weekend.
I will reiterate this point in the rules that follow.
If you’ve got any questions please keep them to yourself.
RULES FOR SEASON 2016-2017
These rules can be amended/added to by a simple consensus of more than half the people playing all agreeing to the change - this isn't my game, it belongs to everyone playing – UP TO A POINT. Any rule changes which increase the workload for the Administrator can be vetoed by him. You can ask any following administrator to reconsider should that happen.
Once agreed, however, and in order to be fair and unbiased, the rules will be adhered to all season as once you allow one person to bend them, others begin to think there's favouritism being shown.
So, the rules are as follows:
1. THIS THREAD
Please keep this thread for Predictathon business only. Banter etc is always welcome as before, but if you want to have in-depth discussions about other football subjects, please do it on another thread.
2. POSTING YOUR PREDICTIONS
If you’ve agreed to play you MUST keep an eye on this thread including looking back to pages that you’ve haven’t read before and posting your predictions in good time.
All predictions must be submitted by Friday at 6pm for weekend games, and before the actual kick-off that night for mid-week forecasts. It is necessary to switch to 6pm as there are to be Friday night EPL games starting this season. This is subject to change depending upon circumstances but the default is 6pm. Please post in this forum in the same format as before, listing your scores below the fixtures thus:
Arsenal v Crystal Palace 1-1
Burnley v Chelsea 1-2
Leicester City v Everton 3-3
Liverpool v Southampton 0-2
Manchester United v Swansea City 1-2
Newcastle United v Manchester City 1-2
Queens Park Rangers v Hull City 1-1
Stoke City v Aston Villa 2-1
West Bromwich Albion v Sunderland 1-1
West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur 1-1
1 1
1 2
3 3
0 2
1 2
1 2
1 1
2 1
1 1
1 1
You must use the published fixture list I produce each week for your forecasts as it makes it easier for me to cut & paste your forecasts straight into the spreadsheet. The key for me is the second list of scores as this will be pasted into the spreadsheet and hence the order and spacing needs to be correct so that each score corresponds to the correct match.
Make sure you have the right number of scores in the list! If you don't it will be your loss as I won’t be counting your entries and notifying you if you are short, in such cases your scores will be deemed to correspond to the games in order, ie. if you only post 9 scores, these will be deemed to apply to the first nine matches and you will be awarded zero points for the tenth match. ‘Edited’ forecasts are not permissible and will be ignored so once you press ‘post’ I’m afraid that’s it.
3. MISSING THE DEADLINE
If you forget to submit your predictions or submit them too late, you will be awarded zero points for every game.
4. THE GIZMO! PASS
It’s been simplified and streamlined, there isn’t one. Shape up and post when you are supposed to.
I can’t forget to post the fixtures each week - which over holiday periods can be tricky - so you can’t forget the simple task of Predicting each week or whenever there are matches.
5. HOLIDAYS ETC
If you are going away please tell me by posting on this thread (don’t email me as I don’t check my emails that frequently) and I will email you the fixtures you will miss for you to forecast in advance. Post your forecasts onto the thread. If you don't do this you'll be awarded zero points for each game you miss and will be removed from the game should that take you over the limit of 4 matchdays in total each season that you can miss.
6. FAILING TO PREDICT
There is a ‘4 strikes’ rule in operation. If you do not forecast for 4 matchdays in total without a prior notification of your intention not to forecast being posted on this thread (ie you are going on holiday, your cat got run over, paper cuts etc), you will be removed from the league with no re-admittance this season or NEXT season (It will be the Administrators choice). There will be no warnings given if you are already at 3 strikes and you fail to forecast again - you will simply find your record expunged from the table. If you can’t be bothered for 4 matchdays in the season I won’t be chasing your tail. There will be no readmittance to the Predictathon should you have not had the decency to inform the administrator that you won’t be forecasting over the course of 4 matchdays in the season. It’s not fair for you to do this as it’s a LOT of work. There appear to people waiting to take your place so if you want to keep it please cherish it and predict or notify otherwise in advance. Likewise, if you register to play and then don't play in the very first week without prior notice you'll be removed. Sorry, but you've got to show willing.
I would suggest moving to a ‘3 strikes’ regime next season as even 4 seems overly generous to me, but that’s not for me to decide.
7. COMEDY FORECASTS
Please don’t post comedy forecasts (ie 10-0 and other obvious nonsense) - this isn't allowed and you'll be given zero points for all of that matchday’s forecasts if you do it. By all means post funny comments above the actual list of scores that I'll be cut 'n' pasting but take the forecasts seriously - a lot of work goes into this so silly forecasts might just make me wonder whether to bother.
8. POINTS
As in previous years, 1 point will be given for a correct prediction (home win/away win/draw) with an additional 3 bonus points awarded for a correct score line.
9. YOUR WEEKLY SCORE
You are responsible for checking that I have got your points earned that week correct and letting me know if something is amiss, which I’m sure you will.
10. MY WEEKLY SCORE
You’re all welcome to double check my score each week and I’d suggest you do. I cheat, frequently. So if suddenly I’m top of the table, you’d be well advised to check.
11. POSTPONED OR REARRANGED GAMES
Scores will be held in the system for postponed games and points will be calculated once the games have been played. Should a game be postponed for several months, all participants will be given the opportunity to revise their prediction.
12. THE TABLE
I will publish the table when I can the following week. Bear in mind that it takes a lot of work, so some weeks there may not be an update.
13. TABLE POSITIONS
In the event of 2 or more players having the same points totals the league table positions will be determined firstly by the amount of correct results predicted and second by the amount of correct score lines predicted. If it’s still equal, alphabetical order will be used.
14. RELEGATION
There IS relegation, so watch the table! Once relegated you are omitted from the competition for the following season and your place will be taken by a newcomer or somebody returning after a season in exile. The relegation zone will be determined by the administrator and everyone informed once the total number of contestants has been decided by the administrator. Relegation will allow any future administrator to control the number of contestants. Even if you know you’ll be relegated you MUST continue to forecast until the season end as you will have the chance to re-enter the Predictathon after a season out. Previously relegated players with a complete posting record in their season of relegation with take precedence over Newcomers if places are tight. If you fall foul of the 4 strikes rule YOU WON’T. I believe relegation will make things more interesting and the banter morecruel funny.
15. NUMBER OF PLAYERS
[b] This is now limited to 22. We cannot currently take any more entries.
16. COURT OF ARBITRATION
LOL
17. YOU & I - OUR PACT
In short, I agree to
1. Publish the fixtures each week
2. Gather in your forecasts
3. Calculate your points
4. Record any missing forecasts each week
5. Compile and Publish the League Table
The End.
You agree to
1. Read the thread
2. Follow any instructions or set timetables and revisions for Holiday periods
3. Actually forecast.
Everyone must pull their weight as the administrator doesn't have the time or the inclination to pull both his weight and yours.
Thank you for reading this and good luck.
These rules can be amended/added to by a simple consensus of more than half the people playing all agreeing to the change - this isn't my game, it belongs to everyone playing – UP TO A POINT. Any rule changes which increase the workload for the Administrator can be vetoed by him. You can ask any following administrator to reconsider should that happen.
Once agreed, however, and in order to be fair and unbiased, the rules will be adhered to all season as once you allow one person to bend them, others begin to think there's favouritism being shown.
So, the rules are as follows:
1. THIS THREAD
Please keep this thread for Predictathon business only. Banter etc is always welcome as before, but if you want to have in-depth discussions about other football subjects, please do it on another thread.
2. POSTING YOUR PREDICTIONS
If you’ve agreed to play you MUST keep an eye on this thread including looking back to pages that you’ve haven’t read before and posting your predictions in good time.
All predictions must be submitted by Friday at 6pm for weekend games, and before the actual kick-off that night for mid-week forecasts. It is necessary to switch to 6pm as there are to be Friday night EPL games starting this season. This is subject to change depending upon circumstances but the default is 6pm. Please post in this forum in the same format as before, listing your scores below the fixtures thus:
Arsenal v Crystal Palace 1-1
Burnley v Chelsea 1-2
Leicester City v Everton 3-3
Liverpool v Southampton 0-2
Manchester United v Swansea City 1-2
Newcastle United v Manchester City 1-2
Queens Park Rangers v Hull City 1-1
Stoke City v Aston Villa 2-1
West Bromwich Albion v Sunderland 1-1
West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur 1-1
1 1
1 2
3 3
0 2
1 2
1 2
1 1
2 1
1 1
1 1
You must use the published fixture list I produce each week for your forecasts as it makes it easier for me to cut & paste your forecasts straight into the spreadsheet. The key for me is the second list of scores as this will be pasted into the spreadsheet and hence the order and spacing needs to be correct so that each score corresponds to the correct match.
Make sure you have the right number of scores in the list! If you don't it will be your loss as I won’t be counting your entries and notifying you if you are short, in such cases your scores will be deemed to correspond to the games in order, ie. if you only post 9 scores, these will be deemed to apply to the first nine matches and you will be awarded zero points for the tenth match. ‘Edited’ forecasts are not permissible and will be ignored so once you press ‘post’ I’m afraid that’s it.
3. MISSING THE DEADLINE
If you forget to submit your predictions or submit them too late, you will be awarded zero points for every game.
4. THE GIZMO! PASS
It’s been simplified and streamlined, there isn’t one. Shape up and post when you are supposed to.
I can’t forget to post the fixtures each week - which over holiday periods can be tricky - so you can’t forget the simple task of Predicting each week or whenever there are matches.
5. HOLIDAYS ETC
If you are going away please tell me by posting on this thread (don’t email me as I don’t check my emails that frequently) and I will email you the fixtures you will miss for you to forecast in advance. Post your forecasts onto the thread. If you don't do this you'll be awarded zero points for each game you miss and will be removed from the game should that take you over the limit of 4 matchdays in total each season that you can miss.
6. FAILING TO PREDICT
There is a ‘4 strikes’ rule in operation. If you do not forecast for 4 matchdays in total without a prior notification of your intention not to forecast being posted on this thread (ie you are going on holiday, your cat got run over, paper cuts etc), you will be removed from the league with no re-admittance this season or NEXT season (It will be the Administrators choice). There will be no warnings given if you are already at 3 strikes and you fail to forecast again - you will simply find your record expunged from the table. If you can’t be bothered for 4 matchdays in the season I won’t be chasing your tail. There will be no readmittance to the Predictathon should you have not had the decency to inform the administrator that you won’t be forecasting over the course of 4 matchdays in the season. It’s not fair for you to do this as it’s a LOT of work. There appear to people waiting to take your place so if you want to keep it please cherish it and predict or notify otherwise in advance. Likewise, if you register to play and then don't play in the very first week without prior notice you'll be removed. Sorry, but you've got to show willing.
I would suggest moving to a ‘3 strikes’ regime next season as even 4 seems overly generous to me, but that’s not for me to decide.
7. COMEDY FORECASTS
Please don’t post comedy forecasts (ie 10-0 and other obvious nonsense) - this isn't allowed and you'll be given zero points for all of that matchday’s forecasts if you do it. By all means post funny comments above the actual list of scores that I'll be cut 'n' pasting but take the forecasts seriously - a lot of work goes into this so silly forecasts might just make me wonder whether to bother.
8. POINTS
As in previous years, 1 point will be given for a correct prediction (home win/away win/draw) with an additional 3 bonus points awarded for a correct score line.
9. YOUR WEEKLY SCORE
You are responsible for checking that I have got your points earned that week correct and letting me know if something is amiss, which I’m sure you will.
10. MY WEEKLY SCORE
You’re all welcome to double check my score each week and I’d suggest you do. I cheat, frequently. So if suddenly I’m top of the table, you’d be well advised to check.
11. POSTPONED OR REARRANGED GAMES
Scores will be held in the system for postponed games and points will be calculated once the games have been played. Should a game be postponed for several months, all participants will be given the opportunity to revise their prediction.
12. THE TABLE
I will publish the table when I can the following week. Bear in mind that it takes a lot of work, so some weeks there may not be an update.
13. TABLE POSITIONS
In the event of 2 or more players having the same points totals the league table positions will be determined firstly by the amount of correct results predicted and second by the amount of correct score lines predicted. If it’s still equal, alphabetical order will be used.
14. RELEGATION
There IS relegation, so watch the table! Once relegated you are omitted from the competition for the following season and your place will be taken by a newcomer or somebody returning after a season in exile. The relegation zone will be determined by the administrator and everyone informed once the total number of contestants has been decided by the administrator. Relegation will allow any future administrator to control the number of contestants. Even if you know you’ll be relegated you MUST continue to forecast until the season end as you will have the chance to re-enter the Predictathon after a season out. Previously relegated players with a complete posting record in their season of relegation with take precedence over Newcomers if places are tight. If you fall foul of the 4 strikes rule YOU WON’T. I believe relegation will make things more interesting and the banter more
15. NUMBER OF PLAYERS
[b] This is now limited to 22. We cannot currently take any more entries.
16. COURT OF ARBITRATION
LOL
17. YOU & I - OUR PACT
In short, I agree to
1. Publish the fixtures each week
2. Gather in your forecasts
3. Calculate your points
4. Record any missing forecasts each week
5. Compile and Publish the League Table
The End.
You agree to
1. Read the thread
2. Follow any instructions or set timetables and revisions for Holiday periods
3. Actually forecast.
Everyone must pull their weight as the administrator doesn't have the time or the inclination to pull both his weight and yours.
Thank you for reading this and good luck.
Edited by gadgetmac on Saturday 6th August 10:22
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