The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 12]
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Shamrock_ said:
Flip Martian said:
Legends match against Real Madrid legends free to view on LFC TV starting shortly. Full house at Anfield too.
How is it that Liverpool have produced more legends than every other English team combined? It's an incredible feat and correlates to trophies won.Great set up from Gerrard for the goal.
Origi is another confidence player. When things are going well for him, he can look like a potential world beater. He needs a consistent run of games week in, week out... sitting on the subs bench and getting 10 mins here and there affects him - he must feel like a bit part player and it can be hard to motivate yourself when you know next week you'll be back sat on the bench.
Origi has the qualities to be a top striker but he needs 100% game time; a season or two where he starts virtually every game, is allowed to make mistakes and have off days. I'd loan him to another prem team next season. Lukaku is an example of someone young who given games, has now started to bloom.
Origi has the qualities to be a top striker but he needs 100% game time; a season or two where he starts virtually every game, is allowed to make mistakes and have off days. I'd loan him to another prem team next season. Lukaku is an example of someone young who given games, has now started to bloom.
type-r said:
Origi is another confidence player. When things are going well for him, he can look like a potential world beater. He needs a consistent run of games week in, week out... sitting on the subs bench and getting 10 mins here and there affects him - he must feel like a bit part player and it can be hard to motivate yourself when you know next week you'll be back sat on the bench.
Origi has the qualities to be a top striker but he needs 100% game time; a season or two where he starts virtually every game, is allowed to make mistakes and have off days. I'd loan him to another prem team next season. Lukaku is an example of someone young who given games, has now started to bloom.
I can see game time developing a player while he makes mistakes but no-one gets that now. Once upon a time that happened in the reserves and when you were ready, you were ready. Loaning him off to another team just to make his mistakes might not be the answer either - he was already loaned out in France after we signed him and seemed to think it was beneath him and was fairly bad. I think he'd probably rather go altogether than do that again.Origi has the qualities to be a top striker but he needs 100% game time; a season or two where he starts virtually every game, is allowed to make mistakes and have off days. I'd loan him to another prem team next season. Lukaku is an example of someone young who given games, has now started to bloom.
Divock Origi will never be a starter at us.
Sadly we are in a situation at the moment where he is our 2nd choice striker with Firmino being the 1st.
If Sturridge wasn't a tampon then I don't think Origi's lack of development would come in to question as he wouldn't get many minutes. He would just be there as an option on the bench.
If Sturridge gets sold in the summer then we need another striker who can compete for that starting place which will in turn give Origi time to develop under Klopp. Me personally I don't think he will get to the heights of the quality of attackers we've had along the years.
Wether that means we should sell him or keep him as a back up I don't know.
I've seen we've been linked with James Rodriguez. Hopefully not.
Sadly we are in a situation at the moment where he is our 2nd choice striker with Firmino being the 1st.
If Sturridge wasn't a tampon then I don't think Origi's lack of development would come in to question as he wouldn't get many minutes. He would just be there as an option on the bench.
If Sturridge gets sold in the summer then we need another striker who can compete for that starting place which will in turn give Origi time to develop under Klopp. Me personally I don't think he will get to the heights of the quality of attackers we've had along the years.
Wether that means we should sell him or keep him as a back up I don't know.
I've seen we've been linked with James Rodriguez. Hopefully not.
I completely agree that he needs to be playing regularly to get his confidence up and getting the best out of him, but I don't think a loan is the answer.
If Klopp sees him as part of his plans then he needs to come up with a way to get him in the team more regularly, and not just bit-part substitute appearances every now and then.
If Klopp sees him as part of his plans then he needs to come up with a way to get him in the team more regularly, and not just bit-part substitute appearances every now and then.
jammy-git said:
I completely agree that he needs to be playing regularly to get his confidence up and getting the best out of him, but I don't think a loan is the answer.
If Klopp sees him as part of his plans then he needs to come up with a way to get him in the team more regularly, and not just bit-part substitute appearances every now and then.
This, I think. He has shown he can finish, really really well. From difficult angles too. He's not an N'Gog. Or even a Mellor, come to that. If he was a flop, he wouldn't have demonstrated what he can do - nor be the 3rd highest scorer in our team this season, despite having relatively few minutes. Consistency will be his problem. And Klopp's.If Klopp sees him as part of his plans then he needs to come up with a way to get him in the team more regularly, and not just bit-part substitute appearances every now and then.
RedTrident said:
He'd only look as bad as Benteke did. We need a striker that excels in our system. As much as it would annoy the Blues, I don't think Lukaku would be a good fit.
Was hoping it'd gain more traction amongst the blues lurking on here Great to see Robbie, Stevie and Aldo scoring again.
https://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2017/03/liverpool-f...
Liverpool, FSG And Anfield Expansion: A Case Of Now Or Never
Liverpool, FSG And Anfield Expansion: A Case Of Now Or Never
Flip Martian said:
jammy-git said:
I completely agree that he needs to be playing regularly to get his confidence up and getting the best out of him, but I don't think a loan is the answer.
If Klopp sees him as part of his plans then he needs to come up with a way to get him in the team more regularly, and not just bit-part substitute appearances every now and then.
This, I think. He has shown he can finish, really really well. From difficult angles too. He's not an N'Gog. Or even a Mellor, come to that. If he was a flop, he wouldn't have demonstrated what he can do - nor be the 3rd highest scorer in our team this season, despite having relatively few minutes. Consistency will be his problem. And Klopp's.If Klopp sees him as part of his plans then he needs to come up with a way to get him in the team more regularly, and not just bit-part substitute appearances every now and then.
At least we agree he needs game time if he is to flourish. He's not going to get that here I think as is.
I personally think Klopp is just talking him up so we get the most money for him as possible.
m3sye said:
https://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2017/03/liverpool-f...
Liverpool, FSG And Anfield Expansion: A Case Of Now Or Never
Well written article, that. It does feel a bit like "well you didn't want high ticket prices, so now you ain't getting another stand". They could really do with coming out and actually saying something positive about club development going forward or there will just be speculation, like this.Liverpool, FSG And Anfield Expansion: A Case Of Now Or Never
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