VIDEO TECHNOLOGY
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Was used with great success last night for the France v Spain game - sooner we can get this for ALL games the better
Took about 40 seconds for the video ref to rightly rule a goal was NOT offside for Spain
He also ruled OUT a goal for France - who was rightly offside
Brilliant
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/28/i...
Took about 40 seconds for the video ref to rightly rule a goal was NOT offside for Spain
He also ruled OUT a goal for France - who was rightly offside
Brilliant
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/28/i...
m3sye said:
Was used with great success last night for the France v Spain game - sooner we can get this for ALL games the better
Took about 40 seconds for the video ref to rightly rule a goal was NOT offside for Spain
He also ruled OUT a goal for France - who was rightly offside
Brilliant
So the major decisions were right, the best team won, and everyone got out of the game what they deserved. The fans went home knowing justice was done and there was nothing to moan about.Took about 40 seconds for the video ref to rightly rule a goal was NOT offside for Spain
He also ruled OUT a goal for France - who was rightly offside
Brilliant
Christ, how f
king dull! Is this what you want from football, because it's certainly not what I want. I want some crap decisions. I want to feel robbed or fortunate. I want highs and lows, not blandness. I want to blame the ref when my team loses. I want to win games I deserve to lose, and lose games I deserve to win. I want to come away feeling passionately about what happened.
I'd do away with goal line technology if I could. The euphoria of conceding a goal and the ref not giving it. Gone forever.
I didn't see the game - how did they decide which decisions to review?
I do actually quite like the drama of the goal line decisions and the referee's watch, but it takes only a few seconds rather than the 40 seconds someone mentioned above. Not sure having the game interrupted by several of those a half is something to wish for.
I do actually quite like the drama of the goal line decisions and the referee's watch, but it takes only a few seconds rather than the 40 seconds someone mentioned above. Not sure having the game interrupted by several of those a half is something to wish for.
oxford drinker said:
I didn't see the game - how did they decide which decisions to review?
I do actually quite like the drama of the goal line decisions and the referee's watch, but it takes only a few seconds rather than the 40 seconds someone mentioned above. Not sure having the game interrupted by several of those a half is something to wish for.
You mean compared to when the slighted team surround the ref, then over to the linesman to complain for a couple of minutes about the decision before the game restarts?I do actually quite like the drama of the goal line decisions and the referee's watch, but it takes only a few seconds rather than the 40 seconds someone mentioned above. Not sure having the game interrupted by several of those a half is something to wish for.
From a business point of view, I totally understand how this makes sense to get the right result, but football is a game played by millions in parks/playgrounds/beaches/streets everywhere and I think I prefer the rules/regulations of the game to be similar for all if possible and this would not be. I recognize that not all games have referees and linesmen (not assistant referees) but goal line technology is not available to all professional games never mind all players, so I would prefer to focus on training/supporting referees than this technology
Another anti video tech fan here.
My biggest issue is where is the line drawn?
What happens when a player is played through on the keeper and is wrongly flagged offside well before the player finishes? Do they just carry on playing until the ball is dead, either scored by attacker or however, then go back to review the offside call? By which point the fans in the stadium don't celebrate the player scoring until it's been reviewed?
What makes football head and shoulders above other sports is lack of stoppages, anything that promotes longer stoppages can FRO.
My biggest issue is where is the line drawn?
What happens when a player is played through on the keeper and is wrongly flagged offside well before the player finishes? Do they just carry on playing until the ball is dead, either scored by attacker or however, then go back to review the offside call? By which point the fans in the stadium don't celebrate the player scoring until it's been reviewed?
What makes football head and shoulders above other sports is lack of stoppages, anything that promotes longer stoppages can FRO.
Boydie88 said:
What makes football head and shoulders above other sports is lack of stoppages, anything that promotes longer stoppages can FRO.
As noted above by London424, video tech will likely reduce time wastage.I'm all for it - the France/Spain game clearly demonstrated its value.
m3sye said:
All for it - really dont see the issue tbh
The time it takes is less than the time Spurs or United spend round a ref kicking off when it doesnt go there way
It can only be a good thing - just like the goal line technology
The time it takes is less than the time Spurs or United spend round a ref kicking off when it doesnt go there way
It can only be a good thing - just like the goal line technology
Because Gerrard and Co. never used to do that..... MUCH!!!!
I used to quite like watching tennis, in the days when McEnroe was screaming "you cannot be serious" and Ille Nastasi was throwing his toys out of the pram. Great stuff.
Now they have technology, and every line call is correct, I haven't watched it for years.
Some of my fave moments as a football fan have centred around awful decisions. Especially when you're away from home, and you know you've got the benefit of a poor decision, and the home fans are all going mental, faces contorted with rage.
Now they have technology, and every line call is correct, I haven't watched it for years.
Some of my fave moments as a football fan have centred around awful decisions. Especially when you're away from home, and you know you've got the benefit of a poor decision, and the home fans are all going mental, faces contorted with rage.
Still no good argument to say how far it will go?
Team scores from a corner wrongly awarded, should that be reviewed? Should they have gone to video ref before the corner was appealed for?
Goals can be scored within seconds of being in the opposite corner in football, so every decision matters. To have only some reviewed is bizarre as every decision changes the game.
Are penalties going to be checked? Where a foul is a grey area anyway? How about a goal from a corner, will they review that for fouls against the defending team. This is the start of a very slippery slope.
And teams don't surround the ref for 2-3 mins, huge exaggeration. It won't save time.
I wouldn't take issues with a form of 3d live scan that can detect offside and flag immediately to the ref, but video refs are a step backwards.
Team scores from a corner wrongly awarded, should that be reviewed? Should they have gone to video ref before the corner was appealed for?
Goals can be scored within seconds of being in the opposite corner in football, so every decision matters. To have only some reviewed is bizarre as every decision changes the game.
Are penalties going to be checked? Where a foul is a grey area anyway? How about a goal from a corner, will they review that for fouls against the defending team. This is the start of a very slippery slope.
And teams don't surround the ref for 2-3 mins, huge exaggeration. It won't save time.
I wouldn't take issues with a form of 3d live scan that can detect offside and flag immediately to the ref, but video refs are a step backwards.
Edited by Boydie88 on Thursday 30th March 10:48
When the idiots, who seem determined to kill the game, were campaigning for goal line technology, one of the fears expressed was that this would be the thin end of the wedge and once introduced, these fools would soon be calling for technology on offsides, penalties etc.
But we were assured not. I was apparently being a luddite and using bogus arguments to bolster my case. Technology would stop at goal line decisions.
Turns out it was the thin end of the wedge. Who knew?
But we were assured not. I was apparently being a luddite and using bogus arguments to bolster my case. Technology would stop at goal line decisions.
Turns out it was the thin end of the wedge. Who knew?
Video Technology works well in Rugby League, it won't ever be going back to humans only.
WRT Football, there is too much money involved with the game. Billionaire owners will not put up with the vagaries of fat puffing refs making mistakes when their decision might make the difference between being in the champions league or not. It's coming, like it or not. Personally, I like it.
WRT Football, there is too much money involved with the game. Billionaire owners will not put up with the vagaries of fat puffing refs making mistakes when their decision might make the difference between being in the champions league or not. It's coming, like it or not. Personally, I like it.
XM5ER said:
Video Technology works well in Rugby League, it won't ever be going back to humans only.
WRT Football, there is too much money involved with the game. Billionaire owners will not put up with the vagaries of fat puffing refs making mistakes when their decision might make the difference between being in the champions league or not. It's coming, like it or not. Personally, I like it.
But rugby league is a stop start game ,it doesn't have the fluency of football. How would it work ,a ball comes into the area and a player makes a tackle which may be a foul,but needs looking at ,do you stop the game to examine the video ? WRT Football, there is too much money involved with the game. Billionaire owners will not put up with the vagaries of fat puffing refs making mistakes when their decision might make the difference between being in the champions league or not. It's coming, like it or not. Personally, I like it.
Goaline technology works because it is instant .
XM5ER said:
Video Technology works well in Rugby League, it won't ever be going back to humans only.
WRT Football, there is too much money involved with the game. Billionaire owners will not put up with the vagaries of fat puffing refs making mistakes when their decision might make the difference between being in the champions league or not. It's coming, like it or not. Personally, I like it.
Rugby League with technology still isn't as popular as football without.WRT Football, there is too much money involved with the game. Billionaire owners will not put up with the vagaries of fat puffing refs making mistakes when their decision might make the difference between being in the champions league or not. It's coming, like it or not. Personally, I like it.
For every billionaire owner who doesn't get into the CL due to a bad decision, another billionaire owner gets his place when he shouldn't have done.
And it's a fallacy anyway. In a league, teams don't get relegated, promoted, win it or finish 4th or 5th due to bad decisions. Over 38 games, every team gets good and bad decisions.
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