Will VAR Change Football for the Better?

[Rumblestripe]

LimmerickLad said:

DCL's appeal against the red card has been upheld........well I never

Another triumph of analysing incidents in super slow motion to find an offence that didn't happen!

What a time to be a football fan...

[LimmerickLad]

Rumblestripe said:

LimmerickLad said:

DCL's appeal against the red card has been upheld........well I never

Another triumph of analysing incidents in super slow motion to find an offence that didn't happen!

What a time to be a football fan...

If they insist on getting involved in more than just straightforward offsides, ball out of play etc then perhaps VAR should be operated by ex pros that know a bit about the nuances of playing at such levels rather than referees?

[Rumblestripe]

LimmerickLad said:

Rumblestripe said:

LimmerickLad said:

DCL's appeal against the red card has been upheld........well I never

Another triumph of analysing incidents in super slow motion to find an offence that didn't happen!

What a time to be a football fan...

If they insist on getting involved in more than just straightforward offsides, ball out of play etc then perhaps VAR should be operated by ex pros that know a bit about the nuances of playing at such levels rather than referees?

What the same ex-Pros who as pundits will joyfully demonstrate their complete ignorance and lack of understanding of the rules?

Those ex-Pros or are there some different ones? (I will not allow you to clone Gary Neville for the good of humanity)

[LimmerickLad]

Rumblestripe said:

LimmerickLad said:

Rumblestripe said:

LimmerickLad said:

DCL's appeal against the red card has been upheld........well I never

Another triumph of analysing incidents in super slow motion to find an offence that didn't happen!

What a time to be a football fan...

If they insist on getting involved in more than just straightforward offsides, ball out of play etc then perhaps VAR should be operated by ex pros that know a bit about the nuances of playing at such levels rather than referees?

What the same ex-Pros who as pundits will joyfully demonstrate their complete ignorance and lack of understanding of the rules?

Those ex-Pros or are there some different ones? (I will not allow you to clone Gary Neville for the good of humanity)

What about parrots of the whoosh variety? Would they be more suitable?

[johnboy1975]

LimmerickLad said:

DCL's appeal against the red card has been upheld........well I never

eta so what sanctions do the 2 referees get.......a yellow or a

Edited by LimmerickLad on Tuesday 9th January 16:34

For clarity his 3 game ban has been cancelled. Your post reads the other way

[LimmerickLad]

johnboy1975 said:

LimmerickLad said:

DCL's appeal against the red card has been upheld........well I never

eta so what sanctions do the 2 referees get.......a yellow or a

Edited by LimmerickLad on Tuesday 9th January 16:34

For clarity his 3 game ban has been cancelled. Your post reads the other way

Does It?

[Rumblestripe]

LimmerickLad said:

Rumblestripe said:

LimmerickLad said:

Rumblestripe said:

LimmerickLad said:

DCL's appeal against the red card has been upheld........well I never

Another triumph of analysing incidents in super slow motion to find an offence that didn't happen!

What a time to be a football fan...

If they insist on getting involved in more than just straightforward offsides, ball out of play etc then perhaps VAR should be operated by ex pros that know a bit about the nuances of playing at such levels rather than referees?

What the same ex-Pros who as pundits will joyfully demonstrate their complete ignorance and lack of understanding of the rules?

Those ex-Pros or are there some different ones? (I will not allow you to clone Gary Neville for the good of humanity)

What about parrots of the whoosh variety? Would they be more suitable?

Hmmm, I see well perhaps you need to make your witticisms more nuanced or make use of a emoticon or two?

Your intention was lost on me I confess

[LimmerickLad]

Rumblestripe said:

Hmmm, I see well perhaps you need to make your witticisms more nuanced or make use of a emoticon or two?

Your intention was lost on me I confess

Wasn't aimed at you sorry ;)

[Dingu]

The issue with the ex pro idea is why would they do it? They generally don’t need the money, unless you go quite far down the leagues - then you still have comparability of level issues anyway.
Sam Allison is a former non league player, to a decent level, but is he better than a non player? Perhaps, perhaps not.

[johnboy1975]

LimmerickLad said:

Does It?

It did to me (and I took Rumblestripes post that he thought in a similar way, but now I'm not sure )

"His appeal has been successful" would be better (the opposite would be "red card upheld")

But anyway, wasn't having a go...

So, do we get an apology? (Have we had one?) Has the VAR (Pawson) been stood down for his error? Has the referee been admonished for his lack of backbone? Is there a review into the process of VAR overturning things the referee has already seen, and acted on? (Doing nothing is an action, as per the conversation earlier - NB this would make VAR largely redundant)

To even things up, maybe Palace could play the final 10 minutes in the replay without their striker?

[alfa phil]

Maybe just do away with var for the rest of the campaign,
Seeing as thought it's used at some grounds and not others.

[LF5335]

alfa phil said:

Maybe just do away with var for the rest of the campaign,
Seeing as thought it's used at some grounds and not others.

It’s used at all PL grounds, exactly as planned.

[alfa phil]

LF5335 said:

It’s used at all PL grounds, exactly as planned.

Yes but the FACup has clubs in it that are not in the premier league . Any way it's my way of being against Var as I'm a dinasor and want my old fashion footy back .

[LF5335]

alfa phil said:

LF5335 said:

It’s used at all PL grounds, exactly as planned.

Yes but the FACup has clubs in it that are not in the premier league . Any way it's my way of being against Var as I'm a dinasor and want my old fashion footy back .

Why not say that then? You made it sound like you think some of one league is using it and others aren’t. VAR is a PL initiative, I think it’s a rubbish one as well. I also agree it’s a bit st that FA Cup is a mish mash it should be all or none using it.

[Tycho]

alfa phil said:

LF5335 said:

It’s used at all PL grounds, exactly as planned.

Yes but the FACup has clubs in it that are not in the premier league . Any way it's my way of being against Var as I'm a dinasor and want my old fashion footy back .

Apparently if one game in a round is not at a Prem ground so wouldn't be able to have VAR then it isn't used for any games in that round.

My issue with VAR isn't the tech but the stuff rules surrounding it. If the ref is wrong for a red or yellow card then overrule him. An incorrect yellow at the start of a game is as bad as a red imo. It causes the player to change their tactics and it's disruptive to the team as a red.

[Dingu]

alfa phil said:

Yes but the FACup has clubs in it that are not in the premier league . Any way it's my way of being against Var as I'm a dinasor and want my old fashion footy back .

Agree the FA cup shouldn’t use it. Not overwhelmed with its operation in the PL, though that’s as much implementation as anything.

[LF5335]

Tycho said:

Apparently if one game in a round is not at a Prem ground so wouldn't be able to have VAR then it isn't used for any games in that round.

My issue with VAR isn't the tech but the stuff rules surrounding it. If the ref is wrong for a red or yellow card then overrule him. An incorrect yellow at the start of a game is as bad as a red imo. It causes the player to change their tactics and it's disruptive to the team as a red.

That can’t be true. There was no VAR at the Wigan Vs United match, but there was in the Palace vs Everton match. Any match at a PL ground will have VAR, any match not at a PL ground won’t have it. That’s a mish mash and nonsense.

[Pitre]

johnboy1975 said:

.....To even things up, maybe Palace could play the final 10 minutes in the replay without their striker?

Haha! Palace are probably more likely to score without either of those two donkeys on the pitch (Mateta and Édouard)!

[LF5335]

I can’t believe nobody has posted about the Luton goal last night and whether VAR should have ruled it out or not.

My thoughts are that I was glad it stood, as keepers have far too much protection now and just fall over at the slightest touch. The keeper was never getting anywhere near the ball anyway. However, the forward, clearly had no intention of playing the ball and his body language was clear that he was making sure he was going to block the keeper.

Tough one. Plenty fouls will be given today for far less impact on the keeper.

[Skyedriver]

LF5335 said:

I can’t believe nobody has posted about the Luton goal last night and whether VAR should have ruled it out or not.

My thoughts are that I was glad it stood, as keepers have far too much protection now and just fall over at the slightest touch. The keeper was never getting anywhere near the ball anyway. However, the forward, clearly had no intention of playing the ball and his body language was clear that he was making sure he was going to block the keeper.

Tough one. Plenty fouls will be given today for far less impact on the keeper.

Just watched on the news this morning. Difficult call, did the guy back into him accidentally or deliberately?