The Official Everton thread - Vol 2

[Scottie - NW]

Fast Bug said:

I hate it when I'm right sometimes.

I'm not really sure we can blame Dyche either. We've essentially got the same first 11 as we've had for a few seasons now, we're just treading water as we circle the plug hole

The positive for you is there are 3 or 4 worse teams.

[tdm34]

Scottie - NW said:

Fast Bug said:

I hate it when I'm right sometimes.

I'm not really sure we can blame Dyche either. We've essentially got the same first 11 as we've had for a few seasons now, we're just treading water as we circle the plug hole

The positive for you is there are 3 or 4 worse teams.

But we have the spectre of more points being knocked off as well

[johnboy1975]

Scottie - NW said:

Fast Bug said:

I hate it when I'm right sometimes.

I'm not really sure we can blame Dyche either. We've essentially got the same first 11 as we've had for a few seasons now, we're just treading water as we circle the plug hole

The positive for you is there are 3 or 4 worse teams.

There's unarguably 2...

Leicester were "too good to go down" last year. I'm not certain you could even apply that monika to us currently. Not won since December (Vs Burnley?), Man Utd away up next and then a 3 week break.

We're not completely awful. We just can't score for, ahem, toffee

[Scottie - NW]

tdm34 said:

Scottie - NW said:

Fast Bug said:

I hate it when I'm right sometimes.

I'm not really sure we can blame Dyche either. We've essentially got the same first 11 as we've had for a few seasons now, we're just treading water as we circle the plug hole

The positive for you is there are 3 or 4 worse teams.

But we have the spectre of more points being knocked off as well

So do Forest. I'd be very surprised if you went down, even with a total ste run and 6 points deducted there are still 4 teams below you. With the players you have you are capable of putting a few wins together and at that end of the table you don't need many points to gain a lot of places.

[johnboy1975]

Scottie - NW said:

tdm34 said:

Scottie - NW said:

Fast Bug said:

I hate it when I'm right sometimes.

I'm not really sure we can blame Dyche either. We've essentially got the same first 11 as we've had for a few seasons now, we're just treading water as we circle the plug hole

The positive for you is there are 3 or 4 worse teams.

But we have the spectre of more points being knocked off as well

So do Forest. I'd be very surprised if you went down, even with a total ste run and 6 points deducted there are still 4 teams below you. With the players you have you are capable of putting a few wins together and at that end of the table you don't need many points to gain a lot of places.

Try taking another 6 off us...where are we then? Our xg is great. Our finishing is awful



If Luton win this from 2 down we are really bang in trouble. (Would put them 5 clear of us -6). It's currently 2-2

[hilly10]

I just hate what we have become in the last 8 years, before that we did have a decent side, never gonna set the world on fire but we never had this crap week in week out. Ever since Moshri bought the club it’s been one disaster after another. I am tired of all this crap, I am getting to the point when we lose I don’t get upset anymore.

[johnboy1975]

hilly10 said:

I just hate what we have become in the last 8 years, before that we did have a decent side, never gonna set the world on fire but we never had this crap week in week out. Ever since Moshri bought the club it’s been one disaster after another. I am tired of all this crap, I am getting to the point when we lose I don’t get upset anymore.

Agreed 100% We were in / on the cusp of top 4, and finished above Liverpool 11 or so years ago 3 seasons running. Logically, if you add 500m plus (I've lost count) to that squàd you should be improving, not fighting relegation. The difference in both çlubs fortunes has been stark, to say the least.

Not sure if we are cursed, certainly feels like it. Thought I too was past caring. Was resigned to not winning today, but think I was trying reverse psychology on myself, and when the defeat came, it's hit hard

Villa won. Results gone for us. Apart from the one that mattered most

[alfa phil]

johnboy1975 said:

Agreed 100% We were in / on the cusp of top 4, and finished above Liverpool 11 or so years ago 3 seasons running. Logically, if you add 500m plus (I've lost count) to that squàd you should be improving, not fighting relegation. The difference in both çlubs fortunes has been stark, to say the least.

Not sure if we are cursed, certainly feels like it. Thought I too was past caring. Was resigned to not winning today, but think I was trying reverse psychology on myself, and when the defeat came, it's hit hard

Villa won. Results gone for us. Apart from the one that mattered most

Thats right a win today and we don't give 2fks what the rest do , but we are not capable of a win .
Well and truly pissed off tonight .

[johnboy1975]

[Fast Bug]

Well it looks like 20th spot has been taken. Just need to hope we can be better than 2 other teams

[megenzo]

Lots of rumours flying around about other clubs in peril of PSR rules. We know of Chelsea, Nottingham Forest and Manchester City, rumours now circulating of Villa and Leicester in peril too. If this many clubs are in breach, it shows either the rule isn not fit for purpose, or the rule has previously been honoured more in the breach than the observance, but now the rug has been pulled without notice to save face for the PL and to stave off a regulator.

If Villa are in trouble, this just shows that all it does is protect the status quo with the monied clubs using the rules to cherry pick from the others keeping them suppressed. The game is gone.

[Leicester Loyal]

The rules were only ever introduced to protect the status quo. A quote from years back was that they didn’t want another Leicester City to happen again.

One day I’ll bin it all off and find another hobby, it’s not happened yet but one day it’ll come unless there are major changes.

I say this just as I’m about to leave for Sunderland away tonight.

I think you’ll be fine, you always are!!

[hilly10]

It doesn’t get me like it used to when we lose, and god we have had some practice of late. Agree totally with what you say, PL stinks and it only looks after the big money clubs.

[hilly10]

1-0 already defo Pen. It’s going to be a long afternoon fellow blue boys

[johnboy1975]

hilly10 said:

1-0 already defo Pen. It’s going to be a long afternoon fellow blue boys

xG will be interesting...we should be 2 or 3 up by now

Fear the more telling stat is "0 wins (and 2 draws) in the 12 games we've conceded first"

[hilly10]

Another defo pen, we are so sloppy. I hate Everton for this,we are total crap

I don’t know what others think, but Beto is another crap buy in my eyes.

Edited by hilly10 on Saturday 9th March 13:14

[ChocolateFrog]

hilly10 said:

Another defo pen, we are so sloppy. I hate Everton for this,we are total crap

I think you've been the better team.

Terrible defensive errors though, 2 stonewall pens.

[hilly10]

ChocolateFrog said:

I think you've been the better team.

Terrible defensive errors though, 2 stonewall pens.

Yes we play well, but cannot put the ball in the net, and always likely to defensive mistakes.

Starting to fall apart now as they can see no way back. Final score could be four or five.

[johnboy1975]

hilly10 said:

Another defo pen, we are so sloppy. I hate Everton for this,we are total crap

I don’t know what others think, but Beto is another crap buy in my eyes.

Edited by hilly10 on Saturday 9th March 13:14

I'm not sure crap is fair...but I'm not sure how much of our 30m we'd get back if we sold him. I'm not even sure of the thinking...what other bottom half club is dropping 50m on 2 strikers, one whom apparently isn't ready enough to play more than a few minutes? (And the other one you'd never heard of??)

To fund this, we sold Cannon and Simms for about 8-10m. You can see why the FFP bods are sniffing around, with that kind of business acumen

That Beto deal, £0 upfront, and x million over the next x years, payments must be coming due soon? (Ditto Chermiti ?)

In that sense, we have to stick with him and hope he / they come good. Chances of them and DCL banging in tens of goals in a dynamic 3-4-3? Slim (at best, certainly under Dyche)

And whilst we are talking about bad deals, we put Maupay out on loan...Whilst he didn't work out for us, that was because he was up front on his own. Him and DCL might be a better fit than DCL and Beto...(Maybe)...which leaves the fact we spent 30m on cover for DCL just as he regained full fitness.

Luck, timing, whatever. Fair to say we're cursed. But Chemitri as cover / development/ be able to take DCL off after 70 mins and keeping Maupay to play behind either one of them sounds less risky financially

Edited by johnboy1975 on Saturday 9th March 13:34

[J6542]

Unlucky lads, I think you deserved at least a draw from the game.