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The Official Southampton FC Thread

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The jiffle king

6,914 posts

258 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Looking at tonights England team, it almost feels like a Saints reunion. Bertrand, Clyne, Lallana, Walcott with the Ox on the bench smile

Paul_B

792 posts

176 months

Sunday 18th October 2015
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So it's good to see yesterday that Yoshida came on and we conceded another 2 goals...

I know football is about more than just one player but this is more than just a coincidence now.

Is anyone else seeing this or is it just me??

SS2.

14,462 posts

238 months

Sunday 18th October 2015
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Bit harsh to lay too much blame on Yoshida, to be fair.

Unless Steven Davis picked up a knock, it was a ridiculous decision to sub him instead of [the utterly ineffective] Ward-Prowse.

Even more bizarre was the decision to bring on Rodriguez whilst we were getting battered in midfield and leave Romeu on the bench.

And when your 'keeper cannot clear the half-way line with his goal kicks, it's surely time for him to hang up his boots.

Fair play to Leicester for their comeback (they probably should have taken all 3 points), but I feel the decisions of our management & coaches were the driving force behind yesterday's capitulation.

Edited by SS2. on Sunday 18th October 14:22

SaintsPaul

679 posts

167 months

Sunday 18th October 2015
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SS2. said:
Bit harsh to lay too much blame on Yoshida, to be fair.

Unless Steven Davis picked up a knock, it was a ridiculous decision to sub him instead of [the utterly ineffective] Ward-Prowse.

Even more bizarre was the decision to bring on Rodriguez whilst we were getting battered in midfield and leave Romeu on the bench.

And when your 'keeper cannot clear the half-way line with his goal kicks, it's surely time for him to hang up his boots.

Fair play to Leicester for their comeback (they probably should have taken all 3 points), but I feel the decisions of our management & coaches were the driving force behind yesterday's capitulation.

+1

Edited by SS2. on Sunday 18th October 14:22

tobinen

9,227 posts

145 months

Sunday 18th October 2015
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Very sloppy 2nd half and Leicester never gave up so respect to them. Vardy played very well.

Yoshida may well not be good enough at this level and I was quick to lay some blame at his feet but there's more to throwing away a 2 goal lead than just him IMO.

Paul_B

792 posts

176 months

Sunday 18th October 2015
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Completely take all that on board, hence why I said I know it's about more than just one player, but he does seem to be the common denominator. The other players have proven to be good enough at this level...everyone has off days. Yoshida has not proven himself at all; I just don't know why he is still anywhere near the squad.

Anyway, rant over :-)

joema

2,648 posts

179 months

Sunday 18th October 2015
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Why was Kelvin Davis playing anyway?

Truckosaurus

11,291 posts

284 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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joema said:
Why was Kelvin Davis playing anyway?
Maarten Whatnot had a back spasm.

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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I'm not in the anti-Yoshida camp, personally. I think he's a useful squad player, but only if he's got some solid DM's in front of him. He's got a great attitude, and always put in a shift but I don't think he's got a 'footballing brain'. He's hardly ever in the right place at the right time, clearances end up with the other team etc. And he should never, ever be played at RB.
Thing I don't get is why the preference using him over Caulker. I'd rate Caulker higher, though maybe getting some more minutes with Maya is investing in the future a bit more? As for him at RB, what was the point of getting Martina in? He's easily better at RB than Yoshida.

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Truckosaurus said:
joema said:
Why was Kelvin Davis playing anyway?
Maarten Whatnot had a back spasm.
If the original question was regarding his preference to Gazza, I'm wondering that too. What was the point in giving Gazza a 4yr deal if you still prefer a 39yr old who can't kick a ball to reach the half-way line? Kelvin's a legend, but there's no way I'd have picked him over Gazza, especially as he was doing well in pre-season.

Mind you, RK knows more about football than I do laugh

tobinen

9,227 posts

145 months

Sunday 25th October 2015
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I'd have taken a point before the start but three were possible IMO. Poor passing decision making by Mane and Tadic, among others, took away some scoring opportunities.

At least they kept pressing for the eventual equaliser.

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Have only seen MOTD, but I'd always take a point away at Anfield to be honest. We've had Chelsea, Leicester and Liverpool, and taken 5 points. Not an awful return, to be honest. It's mid-table form, which is where I think we'll end up.

What was Mane up to at the end though?!

See Gaston was involved in the goal. Hasn't he come on as a sub and created 2-3 chances now, possibly officially assists? Be nice if we could finally see what we all know he's capable of, and would be a very good time for him to show it too.

The jiffle king

6,914 posts

258 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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[quote=Kitchski] We've had Chelsea, Leicester and Liverpool, and taken 5 points. Not an awful return, to be honest.
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Before the 3 games knowing we were away at Chelsea and Liverpool, I thought 3 or possibly 4 points would be the best we could do, so I'm pretty pleased with 5. 2-0 up on Leicester, we should have closed the game out but let them run us ragged.

Paul_B

792 posts

176 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Was a good game to watch especially towards the end. Gaston did well, would like to see him feature more. He also has an awesome car!!

Koeman was fuming with Mane!!

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Has Gaston still got that old Mustang?

Paul_B

792 posts

176 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Yeah, blue Shelby.

SS2.

14,462 posts

238 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Would have gladly taken a point before the game, but must admit to feeling a little 'meh' at the final whistle. Very little threat from Liverpool and I reckon they were there for the taking.

Remain to be convinced about Clasie - not seen enough from him to convince me that he should be in the starting XI, although he did improve (a bit) as the game went on.

Thought Big Vic was immense (as ever), and was really pleased to see Gaston make such a positive contribution. He's a player who's clearly got a lot to offer but, other than his debut against Villa, he's rarely managed to show his A-Game.

It was evident the entire back-four was happier with Stek back between the sticks - Soares & Bertrand (and VVD) seemed much happier bombing forward.

All in all, no-one should ever be too unhappy with an away point an Anfield and at least we didn't have to suffer the rat-faced Nivea boy bagging a goal in front of the Saints fans.

Roll on Villa, even if it will be without Mane (silly lad)..

tobinen

9,227 posts

145 months

Thursday 29th October 2015
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Scousers next then in the league cup at St Mary's. Doable I would suggest on current form.

tobinen

9,227 posts

145 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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Nice three points today but another sloppy second half. Tougher opposition may well have led to a different result.

The jiffle king

6,914 posts

258 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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17 points, 7th place and I don't really feel we've played well consistently this season. Sunderland away next in the league followed by Stoke at home and then Man City away. Hope that Sunderland continue to be generous in defence