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DaveyBoyWonder said:
Watching it at home you could sense the atmosphere! Everyone seen the video from 3 miles away on twitter/X - just the glow of ER in the dark and the sound of Marching On Together echoing in the night. Jeeeeezz........
Read that Maresca reckons they controlled the game for 80 minutes. Hmmm. I'd disagree - I think they controlled the first 25/30 minutes of the second half but the introduction of Bamford and James (and then Roberts) changed the dynamic a lot after 65 minutes. Doesn't matter anyway - if thats you're way of looking at it Enzo, Leeds controlled 10 minutes and scored 3 goals. You controlled it for 80 and scored 1 which isn't very good
On and on....
As a Leicester fan, I can accept that Enzo’s post match comments were a little heavy on the bias. However, we certainly controlled more of the game, and should have been 2 up legitimately and taken 2 more clear chances that Mavididi and Daka would normally put away. Read that Maresca reckons they controlled the game for 80 minutes. Hmmm. I'd disagree - I think they controlled the first 25/30 minutes of the second half but the introduction of Bamford and James (and then Roberts) changed the dynamic a lot after 65 minutes. Doesn't matter anyway - if thats you're way of looking at it Enzo, Leeds controlled 10 minutes and scored 3 goals. You controlled it for 80 and scored 1 which isn't very good
On and on....
I do respect Leeds attitude of never giving up, and also the manager made good sub choices. But again, please keep perspective that the Leeds goals were, in most cases, heavy deflections and not clinical finishing!
Also, the Leeds fan celebrations were frankly so over the top and embarrassing! It was as though you’d won a cup / title, when in reality, you got lucky and grabbed a late win. The crowd were silent most of the game, when the team really needed support.
Glad to help with a little perspective, and it’s always good to have a team keeping the Foxes focused.
Hoping we get Leeds in the FA Cup quarters for Round 3! 
Edited by Remster500 on Wednesday 28th February 13:45
Remster500 said:
As a Leicester fan, I can accept that Enzo’s post match comments were a little heavy on the bias. However, we certainly controlled more of the game, and should have been 2 up legitimately and taken 2 more clear chances that Mavididi and Daka would normally put away.
I do respect Leeds attitude of never giving up, and also the manager made good sub choices. But again, please keep perspective that the Leeds goals were, in most cases, heavy deflections and not clinical finishing!
Also, the Leeds fan celebrations were frankly so over the top and embarrassing! It was as though you’d won a cup / title, when in reality, you got lucky and grabbed a late win. The crowd were silent most of the game, when the team really needed support.
Glad to help with a little perspective, and it’s always good to have a team keeping the Foxes focused. Hoping we get Leeds in the FA Cup quarters for Round 3!
Come on, any team would have celebrated that win the same way. To come back from behind to win and close the gap to 6 points regardless of how the goals went in was huge, and I'm giving Leicester respect there. You are still comfortably clear at the top and favourites to go up, rightly so.I do respect Leeds attitude of never giving up, and also the manager made good sub choices. But again, please keep perspective that the Leeds goals were, in most cases, heavy deflections and not clinical finishing!
Also, the Leeds fan celebrations were frankly so over the top and embarrassing! It was as though you’d won a cup / title, when in reality, you got lucky and grabbed a late win. The crowd were silent most of the game, when the team really needed support.
Glad to help with a little perspective, and it’s always good to have a team keeping the Foxes focused.
Hoping we get Leeds in the FA Cup quarters for Round 3! Edited by Remster500 on Wednesday 28th February 13:45
You're right about Elland Road being quiet when things aren't going well, but that's been a problem for a long time. It was worse during the League One years where some of our players were way below the standard the Leeds fans were used to seeing, and you could literally see the confidence drain out of them when the crowd groaned a misplaced pass or shot.
resolve10 said:
Come on, any team would have celebrated that win the same way. To come back from behind to win and close the gap to 6 points regardless of how the goals went in was huge, and I'm giving Leicester respect there. You are still comfortably clear at the top and favourites to go up, rightly so.
You're right about Elland Road being quiet when things aren't going well, but that's been a problem for a long time. It was worse during the League One years where some of our players were way below the standard the Leeds fans were used to seeing, and you could literally see the confidence drain out of them when the crowd groaned a misplaced pass or shot.
Well, I suppose fans celebrations are all relative to how much celebrating you’ve been able to do over recent years! You're right about Elland Road being quiet when things aren't going well, but that's been a problem for a long time. It was worse during the League One years where some of our players were way below the standard the Leeds fans were used to seeing, and you could literally see the confidence drain out of them when the crowd groaned a misplaced pass or shot.
I guess the Foxes fans have a bit more perspective on winning BIG games …… Premier Leagues …… FA Cups …… Champions League games!! 
Edited by Remster500 on Wednesday 28th February 14:44
Plenty of examples of egg-on-face over the years from over celebrating!
You'd be familiar with a good example - Troy Deeney scoring for Watford to send them to the Championship Play Off final in 2013. Given the circumstances I think the Watford fans could be forgiven for celebrating at the time, but it was ultimately for nothing as they lost the final to Crystal Palace.
Similarly, we had to watch Frank Lampard dance on our pitch when Derby beat us in the Play Offs in 2019, but they lost the final to Aston Villa who are now competing for a Champions League spot whereas Derby have far contrasting fortunes two leagues below.
We might look stupid for celebrating on Friday if we fail to go up, but putting the top 2 position into our own hands for the first time all season and closing the gap to yourselves to 6 points felt like a season defining point. I don't think you'll find many regretful Leeds fans, regardless of what happens at the end of the season. Maybe a few sore heads on Saturday though!
As an aside, feels totally wrong having FA Cup non-replay matches played midweek.
You'd be familiar with a good example - Troy Deeney scoring for Watford to send them to the Championship Play Off final in 2013. Given the circumstances I think the Watford fans could be forgiven for celebrating at the time, but it was ultimately for nothing as they lost the final to Crystal Palace.
Similarly, we had to watch Frank Lampard dance on our pitch when Derby beat us in the Play Offs in 2019, but they lost the final to Aston Villa who are now competing for a Champions League spot whereas Derby have far contrasting fortunes two leagues below.
We might look stupid for celebrating on Friday if we fail to go up, but putting the top 2 position into our own hands for the first time all season and closing the gap to yourselves to 6 points felt like a season defining point. I don't think you'll find many regretful Leeds fans, regardless of what happens at the end of the season. Maybe a few sore heads on Saturday though!
As an aside, feels totally wrong having FA Cup non-replay matches played midweek.
Killer2005 said:
Ran them close. Not too disappointed to have lost when we have Town to play at Saturday lunchtime.
Archie Gray looked class and Mateo Joseph did well.
Agree with all that - it wasn't either team's first eleven but I thought we gave a decent account of ourselves. Great to see Joseph on the scoresheet and Archie Gray just looks better with every game - if we don't get promoted this season I think we'll have real trouble keeping him as I reckon a few PL clubs will come knocking on the door.Archie Gray looked class and Mateo Joseph did well.
But I'm not too disappointed we've gone out tonight; I don't think we were going to win the competition and therefore being able to concentrate on the league is no bad thing as far as I'm concerned.
Really pleased to have lost that game in the manner we did. Think this was the best result really. We pushed a Premier league team with £100m players all the way, and possibly even the better side for periods of the game, only losing to a last minute winner. This should enhance confidence of the squad and help to keep the positive momentum going. I was not happy when it looked to be heading to extra time. Sure it would be nice to have won, but in the bigger picture a defeat with no further injuries so we can carry on our promotion push is the best outcome at this stage.
Remster500 said:
Well, I suppose fans celebrations are all relative to how much celebrating you’ve been able to do over recent years! I guess the Foxes fans have a bit more perspective on winning BIG games …… Premier Leagues …… FA Cups …… Champions League games!!
I'm not sure its relative to success in recent years, its more relative to your idiot manager coming out before the game and saying it was a bigger game for us than it was for Leicester. We made the most of it and closed the gap on 1st place in a division you were absolutely blitzing up until a couple of months ago. 6 points with 12 to go and you've dropped 6 points in the last 2 games... I guess the Foxes fans have a bit more perspective on winning BIG games …… Premier Leagues …… FA Cups …… Champions League games!! Edited by Remster500 on Wednesday 28th February 14:44
DaveyBoyWonder said:
DE1975 said:
Really pleased to have lost that game in the manner we did.
Exactly my view. Glad we lost but gave a REALLY good account of ourselves...If we really didn't care about the cup, we'd have been better losing to Peterborough and saving the two fixtures against Plymouth, including extra time in the away leg.
Honestly, financial benefits aside, I'd rather we had got to the FA Cup final and remained in the Championship than promotion.
resolve10 said:
Honestly, financial benefits aside, I'd rather we had got to the FA Cup final and remained in the Championship than promotion.
Also keep in mind that if the FA Cup winner qualifies for European football through the league anyway, the FA Cup runner-up gets the European spot instead.Wolves fan here, cautiously optimistic
resolve10 said:
I appreciate your views are the majority view but I don't understand this mindset. I'd rather see us progress and face Leicester again in a very winnable game - win that and it's the semi-finals where anything can happen. Promotion from the Championship, which is likely for us regardless of playing a couple of extra games, only means we get to spend another couple of seasons fighting at the bottom half of the table and getting spanked 7-0 by the rich clubs every season.
If we really didn't care about the cup, we'd have been better losing to Peterborough and saving the two fixtures against Plymouth, including extra time in the away leg.
Honestly, financial benefits aside, I'd rather we had got to the FA Cup final and remained in the Championship than promotion.
And I in turn don't get that mindset! If we really didn't care about the cup, we'd have been better losing to Peterborough and saving the two fixtures against Plymouth, including extra time in the away leg.
Honestly, financial benefits aside, I'd rather we had got to the FA Cup final and remained in the Championship than promotion.
Leeds is a sizeable city with only one team and an established level of support which exceeds that of many current PL sides; it also has owners who appear to be willing and able to invest in the club (albeit I accept their pockets aren't as deep as some). Therefore, it's surely not an unrealistic aspiration for us to be at least competitive in the top flight? Ok, top four or even top six would be very difficult but to me there should be no reason why we can't be a solid mid-table team - with the right management and recruitment I don't think we should be getting spanked regularly and often or having to fight relegation every season.
I do understand why people have been enjoying the Championship this season but, while it's undoubtedly relentless and entertaining, it's a level down on the PL in terms of quality and to me saying it's ok for us to stay there is akin to an acceptance of under achievement and failure. Maybe we'd have made it to the semi-final of the cup if we'd beaten Chelsea but with the teams left in I really don't think we'd have won it and hence personally I'd rather avoid the extra fixtures and chances of picking-up injuries; for me promotion was always the clear priority over the cup and for that reason I wasn't overly disappointed by the result on Wednesday.
Massive disappointment but again, something I've said before, we just really struggle against teams who play anti-football. Expect the same against Stoke this week - less so vs Wednesday as from what i've seen of them this season they seem to actually give it a go but due to managerial changes and a mental owner its not quite worked out yet. Leicester slipping up again the only saving grace although weirdly I think I'd have preferred a draw vs them and to have beaten Huddersfield - would have felt a bit more "normal"
Not at our best again tonight but got the win and the points!
Sheffield Wednesday next and I think that could be another Huddersfield - it will be one of their biggest games of the season and they'll no doubt look to make it a physical battle. Won't be easy but with Leicester and Ipswich also winning tonight we really need to take 3 points on Friday to keep the pressure on...
Sheffield Wednesday next and I think that could be another Huddersfield - it will be one of their biggest games of the season and they'll no doubt look to make it a physical battle. Won't be easy but with Leicester and Ipswich also winning tonight we really need to take 3 points on Friday to keep the pressure on...
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