The Official Manchester City Premiership Champions Thread

The Official Manchester City Premiership Champions Thread

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m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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smn159 said:
No they're not - and not likely to be on this evidence smile
Think I went into a time warp there haha

Wacky Racer

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38,157 posts

247 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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m3sye said:
Champions of England and the Wigan thread is more active hehe
It's quality not quantity.....biggrin

Another bad day, although Stoke away is always a tough game.

Still got lots of quality players to come back though.

Bony's st.

Not a patch on when he was at Swansea.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

237 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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How much longer has Pellegrini got?

Poor team selection again. Bony should not be starting, he's fking hopeless. And Delph should have started ahead of Fernando.

Plus there are too many games where we just don't turn up, which has to come back to the manager.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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Bony is far from the reason as to why you lost today.

Jeees, watching MoTD, if Stoke had been a bit more clinical you could have lost by 5 or 6!

stuartmmcfc

8,662 posts

192 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Stoke should have really thrashed us.
There's a serious injury crisis at the moment. The absence of Toure, Aguero etc and a Silva who's not at all match "sharp" does not help at all but that's not the whole problem imho.
On the positive side, at least we've not got Chelsea's problems.

addey

1,038 posts

167 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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City only have 13 or 14 fully fit players a apparently?! And you only registered 21 (out of possible 24) players for the league. That's madness, why is a club of your size and resources even in that kind of situation?

stuartmmcfc

8,662 posts

192 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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madness or just very bad luck?

BlackST

9,079 posts

165 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Pellegrini has no excuses.
You lot have spent stloads. You should be top 2 every season. Along with Chelsea.
With the players you have bought/ money spent the blame has to fall onto the managers.
Shouldn't have to rely on 3 players if you have spent I don't know, atleast £500m? Not £10m players neither.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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If city don't improve you know what's going to happen? Liverpool are going to go on a decent run and will challenge for the title.


Wake up!!!! !

stuartmmcfc

8,662 posts

192 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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BlackST said:
Pellegrini has no excuses.
You lot have spent stloads. You should be top 2 every season. Along with Chelsea.
With the players you have bought/ money spent the blame has to fall onto the managers.
Shouldn't have to rely on 3 players if you have spent I don't know, atleast £500m? Not £10m players neither.
You normally sound like you know a bit but this time ... smile
We have finished in the top 2 for the last 4 seasons. The season before that we finished 3rd on goal difference.
This season is far from over and I suspect well finished top 2 yet again.
All players are not the same and I think there's more than 3 players who could walk into any team in the world who play for City. (Hart, Kompany, Silva, Aguero and De Bruyne for starters),
Where I would agree though is with the quality of our defenders who seem hopeless when Kompany is absent. This problems been there for a while and signings have been made, but without success yet.


Wacky Racer

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38,157 posts

247 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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As Stuart says we have not finished out of the top two the last four seasons, the season before that we were third, currently we are third with our three best players to return. I full expect us to win this term, but we shall see.

I think City fans would have taken that six years ago. I remember watching them in the second division in 1965 playing to crowds as low as 8,000. Supporting City has always been a roller coaster.

I think you have got to get a sense of perspective, no club can win every game, as long as the players put a shift in, the trouble is City don't too often against mid table teams.

There are NO easy games in the premiership, look at Chelsea v Bournemouth yesterday.

As I said Stoke away is tough for any team.

V8covin

7,310 posts

193 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Wacky Racer said:
As Stuart says we have not finished out of the top two the last four seasons, the season before that we were third, currently we are third with our three best players to return. I full expect us to win this term, but we shall see.

I think City fans would have taken that six years ago. I remember watching them in the second division in 1965 playing to crowds as low as 8,000. Supporting City has always been a roller coaster.

I think you have got to get a sense of perspective, no club can win every game, as long as the players put a shift in, the trouble is City don't too often against mid table teams.

There are NO easy games in the premiership, look at Chelsea v Bournemouth yesterday.

As I said Stoke away is tough for any team.
Not really,the Britannia isn't the fortress it once was.We're actually better away from home these days.
Fact is Hughes did one on you,tactically.It wasn't the atmosphere,it wasn't the wind,it wasn't hoofball or long throws,it was tactics and exceptionally good football.

BlackST

9,079 posts

165 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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stuartmmcfc said:
BlackST said:
Pellegrini has no excuses.
You lot have spent stloads. You should be top 2 every season. Along with Chelsea.
With the players you have bought/ money spent the blame has to fall onto the managers.
Shouldn't have to rely on 3 players if you have spent I don't know, atleast £500m? Not £10m players neither.
You normally sound like you know a bit but this time ... smile
We have finished in the top 2 for the last 4 seasons. The season before that we finished 3rd on goal difference.
This season is far from over and I suspect well finished top 2 yet again.
All players are not the same and I think there's more than 3 players who could walk into any team in the world who play for City. (Hart, Kompany, Silva, Aguero and De Bruyne for starters),
Where I would agree though is with the quality of our defenders who seem hopeless when Kompany is absent. This problems been there for a while and signings have been made, but without success yet.
A club of your current standing shouldn't have to rely on them players though. You've spent millions and millions and pay out millions in wages too. Everyone knows by now Aguero is made of glass. Should really have a replacement for him in a top quality strikers but you bought Bony for £30m and he's probably on £125k a week.
Defence is awfully poor. Spent £xm on Mangela who's robbing a living out of being a footballer. God knows how he ended up at you lot who have Champions League targets.
De Bruyne is pretty good. Just don't think him and Sterling who are starters for yourselves will punish many teams. I don't think De Bruyne or Silva would walk into the Real Madrid, Barca or Bayern teams but any other team they'd be one of the best players.

Kompany is world class. Probably top 5 CBs in the world but when he's injured Demichelis/ Mangela just aren't good enough if City want to be top 5 in the world. Unsure how Ottamendi will do as it's early days yet. I assume it'll be Ottamendi and Kompany when both are fit?

I think long term if you want to win the Champions League some day Pellegrini will have to go. Your side is a force and whilst you can smash a team one day, you can be inconsistent the weekend following.

stuartmmcfc

8,662 posts

192 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Wacky Racer said:
There are NO easy games in the premiership.
I don't know about that. Leicester have got a fairly easy game next weekend smile

Wacky Racer

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38,157 posts

247 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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stuartmmcfc said:
Wacky Racer said:
There are NO easy games in the premiership.
I don't know about that. Leicester have got a fairly easy game next weekend smile
Very true.....laugh

Cie

18,782 posts

193 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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stuartmmcfc said:
Wacky Racer said:
There are NO easy games in the premiership.
I don't know about that. Leicester have got a fairly easy game next weekend smile
hehe

Even if you lost 2-0 to Stoke, at least you're not a Chelsea fan.

addey

1,038 posts

167 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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stuartmmcfc said:
madness or just very bad luck?
Well no, its not bad luck if you choose to register only 21 players when you are allowed to register 24. They've got themselves into a situation where 7 injuries has left then seriously short of players which could have been easily avoided. But the bigger point is, by only registering 21 players do they really not have any more premier league quality players even with all the money they've spent?

stuartmmcfc

8,662 posts

192 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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BCity haven't "chosen" to register 21 players. It's to do with the homegrown players rule. They've only been allowed to register 21.
. You might say then City should have signed more English players but that would have meant a) signing players that City didn't want for the sake of it b) paying well over the odds- look at the stick we already get and c) would have made a mockery of the millions we're spending on developing youngsters to avoid such situations.
So I would say it was bad luck that circumstances have conspired to injure so many of our best players and leave us short.
It was a risk that isn't pay off at the moment.

Lotus E300S

339 posts

112 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Do City ever bring home grown academy players through?

stuartmmcfc

8,662 posts

192 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Lotus E300S said:
Do City ever bring home grown academy players through?
Yes and no.
There's lots of loop holes about what constitutes a "home grown player" which most Premiership teams take advantage of.
If you're really interested read here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_City_F.... about how successful it's been (and not just for us).
The long term aim is to develop more first team players. The money and effort spent so far suggests this will happen.
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