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Blib said:
maix27 said:
Blib said:
maix27 said:
I don't really like Spurs very much.
But i have to say i feel sorry for you lot.
It looks like it's not going to get much better soon either.
What's it like being so rubish? I can't remember what that feels like :-)
I notice that you come from Brighton.But i have to say i feel sorry for you lot.
It looks like it's not going to get much better soon either.
What's it like being so rubish? I can't remember what that feels like :-)
Man U fan by any chance?
Now either you are seven years old, or you've come to support Chelsea at, shall we say, a more mature age.
Now which one is it?
Are you a child or have you jumped on the Chelski bandwagon just recently. Because sunshine, if you were a genuine Chelsea fan you'd know all about the many years when your team were rubbish.
I had a season ticket back in 94 when i was 11. And we really were rubish back then. Just as the whole Gullet revolution started.
I seem to rembember us still being better than you then. I suppose some things change, some don't.
That must be gutting.
EVENING STANDARD (AP) - A seven-year-old boy was at the centre of a
London courtroom drama yesterday
when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him.
The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge
initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law
and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the degree
possible. The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt
beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with
her. When the judge then suggested that he live with his grandparents,
the boy cried out that they also beat him.
After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning
that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the
judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who
should have custody of him. After two recesses to check legal references
and confer with child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary
custody to Tottenham Hotspur Football Club whom the boy firmly believes
are incapable of beating anyone.
London courtroom drama yesterday
when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him.
The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge
initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law
and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the degree
possible. The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt
beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with
her. When the judge then suggested that he live with his grandparents,
the boy cried out that they also beat him.
After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning
that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the
judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who
should have custody of him. After two recesses to check legal references
and confer with child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary
custody to Tottenham Hotspur Football Club whom the boy firmly believes
are incapable of beating anyone.
LATEST NEWSUEFA Cup drawWe have been drawn against Spartak Moscow, Udinese, Dinamo Zagreb and NEC Nijmegen in the group stage of the UEFA Cup.
It means Luka Modric will come up against his former club in Croatian champions Dinamo Zagreb.
We will play each team once in the group stage with the top three of five progressing to the knockout stage.
Dates and what teams we play home or away are being decided at UEFA headquarters now
Here are a few facts about our opponents...
Spartak Moscow (Russia) - Roman Pavlyuchenko's former club, unfortunately he is ineligible for the UEFA Cup. Spartak are currently seventh in Russia. Michael Laudrup is their manager - we came up against him with Getafe last seaso. Sparta lost to Dinamo Kiev in Champions League qualifying
Udinese (Italy) - Currently level at the top of Serie A with Lazio and Inter Milan.
Dinamo Zagreb (Croatia) - Luka Modric up against his former club but Vedran Corluka remains ineligible in the UEFA Cup. Currently top of Croatian championship by five points.
NEC Nijmegen (Netherlands) - Currently seventh in Holland with eight points from five games. Secured a 1-0 win against Dinamo Bucharest to qualify for this season's UEFA Cup group phase. Won through in a UEFA Cup play-off in Holland last season following an eighth place finish in Eredivisie.
It means Luka Modric will come up against his former club in Croatian champions Dinamo Zagreb.
We will play each team once in the group stage with the top three of five progressing to the knockout stage.
Dates and what teams we play home or away are being decided at UEFA headquarters now
Here are a few facts about our opponents...
Spartak Moscow (Russia) - Roman Pavlyuchenko's former club, unfortunately he is ineligible for the UEFA Cup. Spartak are currently seventh in Russia. Michael Laudrup is their manager - we came up against him with Getafe last seaso. Sparta lost to Dinamo Kiev in Champions League qualifying
Udinese (Italy) - Currently level at the top of Serie A with Lazio and Inter Milan.
Dinamo Zagreb (Croatia) - Luka Modric up against his former club but Vedran Corluka remains ineligible in the UEFA Cup. Currently top of Croatian championship by five points.
NEC Nijmegen (Netherlands) - Currently seventh in Holland with eight points from five games. Secured a 1-0 win against Dinamo Bucharest to qualify for this season's UEFA Cup group phase. Won through in a UEFA Cup play-off in Holland last season following an eighth place finish in Eredivisie.
maix27 said:
Blib said:
maix27 said:
Blib said:
maix27 said:
I don't really like Spurs very much.
But i have to say i feel sorry for you lot.
It looks like it's not going to get much better soon either.
What's it like being so rubish? I can't remember what that feels like :-)
I notice that you come from Brighton.But i have to say i feel sorry for you lot.
It looks like it's not going to get much better soon either.
What's it like being so rubish? I can't remember what that feels like :-)
Man U fan by any chance?
Now either you are seven years old, or you've come to support Chelsea at, shall we say, a more mature age.
Now which one is it?
Are you a child or have you jumped on the Chelski bandwagon just recently. Because sunshine, if you were a genuine Chelsea fan you'd know all about the many years when your team were rubbish.
I had a season ticket back in 94 when i was 11. And we really were rubish back then. Just as the whole Gullet revolution started.
I seem to rembember us still being better than you then. I suppose some things change, some don't.
That must be gutting.
Now, if you could supply us with your evidence that Chelsea have ever been a more successful club over a sustained period than Spurs pre-Abramovic then I will be very surprised indeed.
How many Cups?
How many European trophies?
Mark my words, the day that Abramovic either tires of his plaything or gets shot by one of his many enemies then the whole pack of cards which is Chelski football club will come crashing down.
Do not expect football fans from fellow clubs to shed a tear for arrogant supporters such as your dear self.
Now toddle along young man.
Pre-Abramovic you'll find Chelsea draw almost exact comparison with Spurs if not worse.
One title as opposed to Spurs two
Less FA Cups
A similar amount of European Success.
Thats why Arsenal, Liverpool and United fans accuse them of not having a History, because it's true. Three league titles in 100 years and two of those at a cost of over £500 million are hardly big club credentials....
Only a big club in a monetary sense. I went to the Charity Shield at Cardiff two seasons ago, we sold our allocation of almost 40,000 tickets, the Chelsea end was more than half empty. That, along with the 26,000 attendance for the home match against Rosenbourg in last seasons Champions league, sums them up.
That said I actually feel sorry for the genuine Chelsea fan who has been going for years, they have seen their identity taken away, been priced out of the club by a load of hooray henrys and glory hunters and are now facing total ruin if Abramovich ever pulls his money out. If he ever does, Leeds will seem like a success story in comparison........
One title as opposed to Spurs two
Less FA Cups
A similar amount of European Success.
Thats why Arsenal, Liverpool and United fans accuse them of not having a History, because it's true. Three league titles in 100 years and two of those at a cost of over £500 million are hardly big club credentials....
Only a big club in a monetary sense. I went to the Charity Shield at Cardiff two seasons ago, we sold our allocation of almost 40,000 tickets, the Chelsea end was more than half empty. That, along with the 26,000 attendance for the home match against Rosenbourg in last seasons Champions league, sums them up.
That said I actually feel sorry for the genuine Chelsea fan who has been going for years, they have seen their identity taken away, been priced out of the club by a load of hooray henrys and glory hunters and are now facing total ruin if Abramovich ever pulls his money out. If he ever does, Leeds will seem like a success story in comparison........
I do hate to agree with Spurs supporters but I remember how truly awful we used to be - lucky for us we are no longer in that situation.
I feel for you guys and I got ribbed at the game on Sunday for saying this but here goes, I hope you stay up this season!
I enjoy going to the Spurs games mainly cos we win (joke) but I have also had my best banter at work with Spurs fan
I feel for you guys and I got ribbed at the game on Sunday for saying this but here goes, I hope you stay up this season!
I enjoy going to the Spurs games mainly cos we win (joke) but I have also had my best banter at work with Spurs fan
flasher said:
Pre-Abramovic you'll find Chelsea draw almost exact comparison with Spurs if not worse.
>slap<how very dare you!!!
in all seriousness I can see what you are saying but it's much the same for any club being bought out (whether by foreign money or domestic)
amnot too sure it will be the end of Chelsea as we see it now unless they can increase income through overseas turnover (but that won't happen overnight)
at some point RA will sell but hopefully it will happen once the club can consolidate its endeavours and produce a profit, which is a good 10 years from now I'd imagine
Trouble is from what I understand Abramovich has underwritten every penny he has spent on Chelsea and can therefore shut up shop and make the club bankrupt or if he is really vicious he could sell the ground and build flats on it....
If you think Russian oil barons don't do things like that let me give you three letters. T V R.
He may never do such a thing but if the fans ever turn against him I wouldn't rule it out.
I also read a very interesting article in the Times recently that pointed out how Chelsea's wage bill is so massive it meant if the russian stopped ploughing money in they couldn't last a month based on the turnover. In financial terms it's unfair competition for the other clubs who dont have rich sugar daddies.
Ultimatley the game as it stands will destroy itself IMO, as it now looks likely that only two clubs can win the league with Arsenal and Liverpool only standing a chance if they dont get injuries and can pick their best 11 week in week out. If it continues like that people will soon begin to switch off......
If you think Russian oil barons don't do things like that let me give you three letters. T V R.
He may never do such a thing but if the fans ever turn against him I wouldn't rule it out.
I also read a very interesting article in the Times recently that pointed out how Chelsea's wage bill is so massive it meant if the russian stopped ploughing money in they couldn't last a month based on the turnover. In financial terms it's unfair competition for the other clubs who dont have rich sugar daddies.
Ultimatley the game as it stands will destroy itself IMO, as it now looks likely that only two clubs can win the league with Arsenal and Liverpool only standing a chance if they dont get injuries and can pick their best 11 week in week out. If it continues like that people will soon begin to switch off......
flasher said:
if he is really vicious he could sell the ground and build flats on it....
no he can't - he doesn't own the pitch or the freehold to the penthouse flat on top of the hotelthe pitch is owned by the CFC Pitch Owners fund (guess who holds the shares?) and Bates has the freehold to the flat
sleep envy said:
flasher said:
if he is really vicious he could sell the ground and build flats on it....
no he can't - he doesn't own the pitch or the freehold to the penthouse flat on top of the hotelthe pitch is owned by the CFC Pitch Owners fund (guess who holds the shares?) and Bates has the freehold to the flat
d. Actually that reminds me. My parents once spent a month with him on an extemely exclusive cruise liner. By their accounts he was an absolutely charming gentleman.
Edited by Blib on Tuesday 7th October 16:36
I was in a box at Chelsea a few years back when they were playing man utd, he was at the bar with Hoddle, Mcmenemy and Charlton, he is a short bloke for sure.
In the same box Denis Waterman was sitting with the riff raff outside and he asked me how Arsenal were getting on, must be a gooner .
In the same box Denis Waterman was sitting with the riff raff outside and he asked me how Arsenal were getting on, must be a gooner .
Edited by woogie on Tuesday 7th October 16:58
Roman never paid off the debt that would have brought Chelsea down in 'weeks' if he hadn't stepped in.
If he walked away they would have to keep paying that back in addition to the wage bill.
Bearing in mind they couldn't afford it back then with a much smaller wage bill, I can't see them managing now even wih the increase in gate receipts generated by all those Goomers changing club.
If he walked away they would have to keep paying that back in addition to the wage bill.
Bearing in mind they couldn't afford it back then with a much smaller wage bill, I can't see them managing now even wih the increase in gate receipts generated by all those Goomers changing club.
Best Spurs joke? I present these 2 letters sent to Football365.com
http://www.football365.com/mailbox/story/0,17033,8...
http://www.football365.com/mailbox/story/0,17033,8...
Best laugh I've had in weeks. Keep up the delusion!
Spurs Fan said:
Enough is enough. I have done my best to support my team but if those in charge of the club don't act quickly we may finish the season without silverware or even a UEFA cup place.
Winning the Carling cup made for a great afternoon, but since then Ramos has been completely ineffective. I don't know any Spurs fans who actually wanted him to be brought in when he was. Why did the board think an unproven foreign manager with no experience of English football at all could cut it? They should accept their mistake and ask Ramos to leave.
It's crucial that we get our next appointment right and bring in someone who can really push us on into the top four. I think Mark Hughes is probably ready to take on a position at a top club, failing that we should bring Mourinho back from Italy as he clearly hasn't settled well there.
This should at least improve the situation and then in January we can address the problems on the pitch. Finally concluding the deal for Arshavin and bringing in someone like Sergio Aguero should see things get better very quickly, and as there are no stand out teams in the league apart from Chelsea and Manu who knows how far we might go, even giving our rivals a two or three month head start?
Arthur S.
followed the next day byWinning the Carling cup made for a great afternoon, but since then Ramos has been completely ineffective. I don't know any Spurs fans who actually wanted him to be brought in when he was. Why did the board think an unproven foreign manager with no experience of English football at all could cut it? They should accept their mistake and ask Ramos to leave.
It's crucial that we get our next appointment right and bring in someone who can really push us on into the top four. I think Mark Hughes is probably ready to take on a position at a top club, failing that we should bring Mourinho back from Italy as he clearly hasn't settled well there.
This should at least improve the situation and then in January we can address the problems on the pitch. Finally concluding the deal for Arshavin and bringing in someone like Sergio Aguero should see things get better very quickly, and as there are no stand out teams in the league apart from Chelsea and Manu who knows how far we might go, even giving our rivals a two or three month head start?
Arthur S.
the same fan said:
Right, so seven games into the new season claiming there might still be something for Spurs to play for is treated as lunacy?
Sure, you might expect this from supporters of other clubs, but I didn't expect it from other Spurs supporters. Arsenal wouldn't accept that their 'title challenge' was over if they were 11 points off the top in the new year. But we are already supposed to accept that we have nothing to hope for this season but a successful fight against relegation even though we are only that same distance from a Champions League place?
Why would Hughes leave City for Tottenham? Good question. Why would an ambitious manager leave a club that hasn't used the keys to their trophy cabinet for over thirty years for a side that was the third most successful in England last season, behind Manu and Portsmouth?
There's no doubt that we have problems at the moment. After the weekend's game we're bottom and our opponents are third. But I doubt many people reading this would bet much that those positions won't be reversed come May.
And where do the problems stem from? Well, there's only one man who sent a team struggling for goals out to play that game at the weekend with one of England's most exciting and accomplished attacking players stuck at right back.
It's worth noting I think that even Steve McLaren has a decent UEFA cup record.
Arthur S
Sure, you might expect this from supporters of other clubs, but I didn't expect it from other Spurs supporters. Arsenal wouldn't accept that their 'title challenge' was over if they were 11 points off the top in the new year. But we are already supposed to accept that we have nothing to hope for this season but a successful fight against relegation even though we are only that same distance from a Champions League place?
Why would Hughes leave City for Tottenham? Good question. Why would an ambitious manager leave a club that hasn't used the keys to their trophy cabinet for over thirty years for a side that was the third most successful in England last season, behind Manu and Portsmouth?
There's no doubt that we have problems at the moment. After the weekend's game we're bottom and our opponents are third. But I doubt many people reading this would bet much that those positions won't be reversed come May.
And where do the problems stem from? Well, there's only one man who sent a team struggling for goals out to play that game at the weekend with one of England's most exciting and accomplished attacking players stuck at right back.
It's worth noting I think that even Steve McLaren has a decent UEFA cup record.
Arthur S
http://www.football365.com/mailbox/story/0,17033,8...
http://www.football365.com/mailbox/story/0,17033,8...
Best laugh I've had in weeks. Keep up the delusion!
Negative Creep said:
the same fan said:
Why would Hughes leave City for Tottenham? Good question. Why would an ambitious manager leave a club that hasn't used the keys to their trophy cabinet for over thirty years for a side that was the third most successful in England last season, behind Manu and Portsmouth?
the memory will keep him warm on cold winters nights
If measured in silverware...?
I'm often asked would I or any other Spurs supporter give up the day at the New Wembley, beating Chelsea, and having a right good knees up/drinking session for 4th place in the league.
For me: NO.
Entry to the Champions League would, with hindsight, have been a waste for Spurs - We'd be out even by now with 2 games played
so...
So at least we had a celebration and lets not forget we hammered one and outplayed another of the top 4 on the way to victory - no chance of me ever agreeing that I'd rather be in Arsenal or Chelsea's position at the end of last season with no cups when we've waited so long for 1 ourselves.
This season of course I'd prefer a 4th place spot or FA Cup win but last season as it unfolded and I lived it - no chance.
Sorry but Arsenals bare cupboard our our 1 cup cupboard as at June this year? - its a no brainer for me.
I'm often asked would I or any other Spurs supporter give up the day at the New Wembley, beating Chelsea, and having a right good knees up/drinking session for 4th place in the league.
For me: NO.
Entry to the Champions League would, with hindsight, have been a waste for Spurs - We'd be out even by now with 2 games played
so...So at least we had a celebration and lets not forget we hammered one and outplayed another of the top 4 on the way to victory - no chance of me ever agreeing that I'd rather be in Arsenal or Chelsea's position at the end of last season with no cups when we've waited so long for 1 ourselves.
This season of course I'd prefer a 4th place spot or FA Cup win but last season as it unfolded and I lived it - no chance.
Sorry but Arsenals bare cupboard our our 1 cup cupboard as at June this year? - its a no brainer for me.
Sorry mate, and no offence but that shows how far Spurs have dropped.
The previous year we slapped you en route to Cardiff and nearly beat Chelsea with the kids, but even if we had won I would have regarded our season as a faliure if we hadn't qualified for the Champions league. And if we had hardly won a game after that and finished 11th I would have been tempted to question whether the manager should have been sacked.
Chelsea came within a whisker of the double, and were a coat of paint away from being Champions of Europe. They had what I would consider to be a successful season, and we finished 2 points behind them.
All the Cup win gave you was a great day at Wembley in a competition that ultimately doesn't matter.
It couldn't have been that great because Keane and Berbatov couldn't wait to leave to play Champions league football....
Coca Cola cup to Coca Cola league in 12 months......
The previous year we slapped you en route to Cardiff and nearly beat Chelsea with the kids, but even if we had won I would have regarded our season as a faliure if we hadn't qualified for the Champions league. And if we had hardly won a game after that and finished 11th I would have been tempted to question whether the manager should have been sacked.
Chelsea came within a whisker of the double, and were a coat of paint away from being Champions of Europe. They had what I would consider to be a successful season, and we finished 2 points behind them.
All the Cup win gave you was a great day at Wembley in a competition that ultimately doesn't matter.
It couldn't have been that great because Keane and Berbatov couldn't wait to leave to play Champions league football....
Coca Cola cup to Coca Cola league in 12 months......
Edited by flasher on Tuesday 7th October 22:22
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