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uk66fastback
9,682 posts
141 months
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okay, here's one from left field ...
Paolo de Canio!
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im
28,393 posts
87 months
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Pep Guardiola is getting spouted in todays media as the man Roman wants (ESPN, Daily Mirror etc)
Can't see him leaving Barca for anyone just yet.
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CIE560
10,527 posts
63 months
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I will be interested to see how good Pep actually is as a manager if he moves to Chelski. I reckon even honeyrider could manage that Barca squad.
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Booey
6,638 posts
50 months
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CIE560 said: I will be interested to see how good Pep actually is as a manager if he moves to Chelski. if he does go to Chelsea and mess things up he has done so well at Barcelona it will probably not have an impact on his career so nothing to lose and Chelsea will offer money for both transfer and in his pocket.
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Wombat3
5,205 posts
76 months
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Cheib
6,502 posts
45 months
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essexplumber said: It would appear that at Chelsea the players (some) are definately much bigger than the club. The players will always be more powerful than the manager because of Abramovich.....he is way too short term. Until Abramovich is willing to take a long term view the players know that if the team isn't performing the manager is the one that gets fired....that means the manager can never have total authority in the dressing room which is just a total disaster. Contrast the sitatuation at Chelsea with Man City....the players there know who is boss. Mancini has been backed by the mangement over Tevez and know if they don't play ball they'll end up playing with the reserves.
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Blackpuddin
4,904 posts
75 months
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CIE560 said: I will be interested to see how good Pep actually is as a manager if he moves to Chelski. I reckon even honeyrider could manage that Barca squad. This. No club can have a good manager as long as they have a 'strong' (ie interfering) owner. It's a rule of football. Watching that QPR film told you all you needed to know about crappy owners who are never happy with either a strong or a weak manager.
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Keyser Soze
10,997 posts
61 months
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TEKNOPUG
7,560 posts
75 months
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968 said: Interesting to see the Spurs fans congregating on this thread tonight. Great performance today. Nice to see our predictions being so accurate. It’s been a tough call to be honest. Spurs losing at home to United when clearly being the better team or Chelsea sacking their manager – which was less predictable and more surprising? Probably difficult to separate the two! I do think that the Chelsea sacking will have greater consequences and that this is the big news story. Hence I am here 
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im
28,393 posts
87 months
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Keyser Soze said: Nothing wrong with The Sun, the scousers are always qouting it...
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Wombat3
5,205 posts
76 months
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Cheib said: The players will always be more powerful than the manager because of Abramovich.....he is way too short term. Until Abramovich is willing to take a long term view the players know that if the team isn't performing the manager is the one that gets fired....that means the manager can never have total authority in the dressing room which is just a total disaster. Agreed and he's painted himself into a corner now - what manager would realistically want that job? The only one who could make it work would be Maureen IMO , but somehow I doubt RA could let go of the reins for long enough & let him get on with it. It would end in tears again, Cheib said: Contrast the sitatuation at Chelsea with Man City....the players there know who is boss. Mancini has been backed by the mangement over Tevez and know if they don't play ball they'll end up playing with the reserves. Up to the point that he suddely re-appeared I'd have agreed with you. But why is he back training with City at all if its not at the owner's insistance? Even just before he came back he was claiming to have been "treated like a dog" by Mancini. Then we get the carefully worded/scripted apology  I'd find it very difficult to believe that Mancini was the one to have instigated the return of Tevez Fortunately for Mancini he's not going to have to play him any time soon because the bloke looks like he's eaten all the pies in Argentina while he was away! Bottom line is City need him to play & play well for a few games before the end of the season so they can get their £25M+ for him. I shouldn't think Mancini would care less if he never saw him again. Sods law, he will probably come on and score the winner against Utd on April 30th!  (He'll still be a t  t though  )
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Booey
6,638 posts
50 months
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Throwing his money about that russian chap Sun
Now owner Roman Abramovich is counting the £50million cost of AVB's managerial reign.And that makes the young Portuguese chief, 34, a more expensive flop than goal-shy striker Fernando Torres as the search for the club's EIGHTH boss in EIGHT years gets underway. AVB was axed after taking training yesterday with his assistant Roberto Di Matteo named as interim coach. It was only last June that Abramovich stumped up £13.3m in compensation to buy out Villas-Boas' contract with Porto. He had already spent more than £10m paying off former boss Carlo Ancelotti and his coaching staff. But AVB was just 36 weeks into a three-year deal worth £90,000-a-week, pocketing £3.5m for 40 games. Abramovich will have to fork out a further £11m just to get rid of the Portuguese failure. Add on the price of recruiting yet another superstar manager and the total cost of Villas-Boas will soar way beyond the £50m spent on record-signing Torres last year.
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jammy_basturd
8,343 posts
82 months
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What manager in their right mind wouldn't take the job. I can't think of a quicker way, bar the a lottery win, to pick up £20m in 9 months!
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garrykiller
2,153 posts
28 months
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irs actually 9 in 8
ranieri
mourinho
grant
scolari
wilkins (interim)
hiddink
ancelotti
AVB
Di Matteo(interim)
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Negative Creep
11,347 posts
97 months
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im said: Keyser Soze said: Nothing wrong with The Sun, the scousers are always qouting it... I call b ks on that story. If player power really is that strong Roman would never appoint someone they don't like
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ukwill
7,257 posts
77 months
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Negative Creep said: I call b ks on that story. If player power really is that strong Roman would never appoint someone they don't like Dont be daft. Of course it's true. A source says it is.
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ukwill
7,257 posts
77 months
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Booey said: Throwing his money about that russian chap Sun
Now owner Roman Abramovich is counting the £50million cost of AVB's managerial reign.And that makes the young Portuguese chief, 34, a more expensive flop than goal-shy striker Fernando Torres as the search for the club's EIGHTH boss in EIGHT years gets underway. AVB was axed after taking training yesterday with his assistant Roberto Di Matteo named as interim coach. It was only last June that Abramovich stumped up £13.3m in compensation to buy out Villas-Boas' contract with Porto. He had already spent more than £10m paying off former boss Carlo Ancelotti and his coaching staff. But AVB was just 36 weeks into a three-year deal worth £90,000-a-week, pocketing £3.5m for 40 games. Abramovich will have to fork out a further £11m just to get rid of the Portuguese failure. Add on the price of recruiting yet another superstar manager and the total cost of Villas-Boas will soar way beyond the £50m spent on record-signing Torres last year.
So you count Ancelotti's payoff as part of AVBs axing? this gets better.
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Booey
6,638 posts
50 months
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ukwill said: So you count Ancelotti's payoff as part of AVBs axing? this gets better.  The Sun do. And they know what they are talking about.
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ukwill
7,257 posts
77 months
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Cheib said: The players will always be more powerful than the manager because of Abramovich.....he is way too short term. Until Abramovich is willing to take a long term view the players know that if the team isn't performing the manager is the one that gets fired....that means the manager can never have total authority in the dressing room which is just a total disaster.
Contrast the sitatuation at Chelsea with Man City....the players there know who is boss. Mancini has been backed by the mangement over Tevez and know if they don't play ball they'll end up playing with the reserves. Which is complete tosh. Both Mourinho and Hiddink had complete ownership of the dressing room. Abramovich's problem is he likes to get involved too much. The board are effectively toothless because they know it's his way or the high way, so none of them tell him to STFU. It's his trainset and he can do what he likes. Now for me, over the past 10yrs that has ultimately produced the most sustained period of success that we've had as a club, so I'm not complaining. The problem is we're now so used to success that what we're currently experiencing is causing people to be irrational. It'll pass. These things always do. We'll be tussling for the title (or 3) again soon enough.
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Booey
6,638 posts
50 months
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ukwill said: The problem is we're now so used to success I wouldn't go that far. I blinked a lot in the 2000's
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