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ukwill
7,257 posts
77 months
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Booey said: I wouldn't go that far. I blinked a lot in the 2000's  Nah, the last decade was great for us all told. This is the first real blip we've since the 90s.
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hornetrider
41,147 posts
75 months
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Panic over chaps, Eddie Newton has joined Di Matteo's management team. You'll recall West Brom sacked them last January.
I'm sure you're in good hands.
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ukwill
7,257 posts
77 months
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hornetrider said: Panic over chaps, Eddie Newton has joined Di Matteo's management team. You'll recall West Brom sacked them last January.
I'm sure you're in good hands. FA Cup goal in '97. I was there. Although smashed. Didn't believe it was Newton who scored though. When did he ever score?
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Wombat3
5,204 posts
76 months
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ukwill said: So you count Ancelotti's payoff as part of AVBs axing? this gets better. More a case of including Ancelloti's payoff as part of the cost of the AVB "experiment" I think. If he hadn't sacked Ancelloti (that well known double winning manager!  ) he would never have had to pay him off would he? Instead of which he's had to pay off Ancellotti, pay off Porto for AVB, and now Pay off AVB (I've excluded the manager's wages because those would have been paid out regardless of who was in the job). Daft as a brush!
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ukwill
7,257 posts
77 months
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Wombat3 said: More a case of including Ancelloti's payoff as part of the cost of the AVB "experiment" I think. If he hadn't sacked Ancelloti (that well known double winning manager! ) he would never have had to pay him off would he? Instead of which he's had to pay off Ancellotti, pay off Porto for AVB, and now Pay off AVB (I've excluded the manager's wages because those would have been paid out regardless of who was in the job). Daft as a brush! But that's a pointless argument. You could say the same for any replacement manager, should they also get the chop. I don't think he should have sacked Ancelotti. But he chose to - and ultimately that's his perogative. And as such, he was going to be paying out Ancelotti regardless.
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Wombat3
5,204 posts
76 months
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ukwill said: But that's a pointless argument. You could say the same for any replacement manager, should they also get the chop.
I don't think he should have sacked Ancelotti. But he chose to - and ultimately that's his perogative. And as such, he was going to be paying out Ancelotti regardless. No, all it says is that's the cost of a stupid owner meddling & replacing a perfectly good manager. In fact the cost is possibly more than that if he then has to buy the next one out of his existing contract too. If he'd left Ancelotti to get on with it the club would be in a much better state & he'd be a lot better off!
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ukwill
7,257 posts
77 months
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Wombat3 said: No, all it says is that's the cost of a stupid owner meddling & replacing a perfectly good manager.
In fact the cost is possibly more than that if he then has to buy the next one out of his existing contract too.
If he'd left Ancelotti to get on with it the club would be in a much better state & he'd be a lot better off! But that's not a cost in any way attributable to AVB is it? If it were, you could argue that the current manager of any side cost the sum total of his earnings+pay off since he began his career. It's just ridiculous. Again, I dont think you'll find too many disagreeing about wishing Ancelotti had stayed. You're singing to the choir.
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Wombat3
5,204 posts
76 months
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ukwill said: Wombat3 said: No, all it says is that's the cost of a stupid owner meddling & replacing a perfectly good manager.
In fact the cost is possibly more than that if he then has to buy the next one out of his existing contract too.
If he'd left Ancelotti to get on with it the club would be in a much better state & he'd be a lot better off! But that's not a cost in any way attributable to AVB is it? If it were, you could argue that the current manager of any side cost the sum total of his earnings+pay off since he began his career. It's just ridiculous. Again, I dont think you'll find too many disagreeing about wishing Ancelotti had stayed. You're singing to the choir. Not attributable to AVB personally no - unless you blame him for failing. But it is the cost of the AVB "adventure" & clearly would not have been incurred at all if Ancelloti was still there today & had been left to get on with it.
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968
9,270 posts
118 months
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ukwill said: But that's not a cost in any way attributable to AVB is it? If it were, you could argue that the current manager of any side cost the sum total of his earnings+pay off since he began his career. It's just ridiculous.
Again, I dont think you'll find too many disagreeing about wishing Ancelotti had stayed. You're singing to the choir. Welcome back Will. I agree pretty much with what you've said but wish Carlo had the cojones to point out to the owner what a bunch of twunts he had in his team and how he needed to get rid, rather than raising his eyebrow and looking baffled.
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limjamrace
627 posts
22 months
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968 said: Welcome back Will.
I agree pretty much with what you've said but wish Carlo had the cojones to point out to the owner what a bunch of twunts he had in his team and how he needed to get rid, rather than raising his eyebrow and looking baffled. To my mind all what you are saying is all surmised and there is no real evidence to support it.. All i can say is lets look forward to tomorrow evening and let the powers to be get on with it. Unless the managers & players of past come forward and tell all we are none the wiser. Yesterdays Chelsea is dead ..Long live the Chelsea of today and tomorrow(??
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im
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87 months
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limjamrace said: To my mind all what you are saying is all surmised and there is no real evidence to support it..
All i can say is lets look forward to tomorrow evening and let the powers to be get on with it.
Unless the managers & players of past come forward and tell all we are none the wiser.
Yesterdays Chelsea is dead ..Long live the Chelsea of today and tomorrow(?? I have no idea what you just said  but I'll defend your right to say it! ...whatever it was...
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968
9,270 posts
118 months
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limjamrace said: To my mind all what you are saying is all surmised and there is no real evidence to support it..
All i can say is lets look forward to tomorrow evening and let the powers to be get on with it.
Unless the managers & players of past come forward and tell all we are none the wiser.
Yesterdays Chelsea is dead ..Long live the Chelsea of today and tomorrow(?? Maybe it's surmised but that's how it happened, was it not? The teams form fell away after a blistering start and there was nothing Carlo could do about it, he just looked more and more baffled. We know Carlo was a good manager, so what was the common factor? It was the players. They let him down and let us down. They should have paid the price before AVB started. Chelsea of today? What's that RDM and Eddie Newton? Shudder the thought. What does tomorrow have in store for us? Who knows, I hope Jose will return but have a bad feeling we'll be saddled with Guardiola who will be another lame duck.
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Audi 525i
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22 months
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limjamrace said: To my mind all what you are saying is all surmised and there is no real evidence to support it..  limjamrace said: All i can say is lets look forward to tomorrow evening and let the powers to be get on with it. limjamrace said: Unless the managers & players of past come forward and tell all we are none the wiser. limjamrace said: Yesterdays Chelsea is dead ..Long live the Chelsea of today and tomorrow(??
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North West Tom
9,461 posts
47 months
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I like Chelsea, but I would hate for Pep to join.
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Booey
6,638 posts
50 months
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limjamrace  I love your avant garde posts. Please keep doing it.
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968
9,270 posts
118 months
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Audi 525i said: We are all none the wiser, but bless him for his optimism.
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968
9,270 posts
118 months
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North West Tom said: I like Chelsea, but I would hate for Pep to join. So would I, and I think most Chelsea fans would agree, outside Barca he'll be a non-entity.
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Hoover.
4,893 posts
112 months
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I would get Wilkins back + a manger.... this seemed to work
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968
9,270 posts
118 months
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Hoover. said: I would get Wilkins back + a manger.... this seemed to work Manager is the priority, if Butch can be brought back it'll be a positive, but I suspect he may be persona non grata at the club.
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limjamrace
627 posts
22 months
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Booey said: limjamrace I love your avant garde posts. Please keep doing it. Guaranteed ! Anything is better though than all this serious D&G i keep reading on here! Even Barca had a rough time a few years ago..Tottenham...Well most of the time ..Man U ...Well they have had their moments,and so on.. Its our rough time at present.Well yeah in the FA cup .In the Champs! Recovering for at least 3rd spot in the premiership. Its gonna be gung ho tomorrow night!! So stop being so miserable you lot..Or are you doing an impression of RA..At least he has the excuse of a incurable mental torture of remembering what life was like in the USSR of old .. (Having said that life is cheap over there still.He probably wonders when the men in long leather coats(thats hit men for the benefit of some on here)are going to do him in.)
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