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TwigtheWonderkid
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silverfoxcc said: Twig,
And Pray tell what are GCSE's? When i took them they were GCE's and a lot harder than the dumbing down they are today, as you no doubt are aware of. They were O Levels in my day.
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TwigtheWonderkid
6,079 posts
19 months
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silverfoxcc said: Twig, When i get a laptop that doesn't miss out letters!! the posts may make more sense, but at least you understood the drift of them! And Pray tell what are GCSE's? When i took them they were GCE's and a lot harder than the dumbing down they are today, as you no doubt are aware of. All i will say, and i generalise here, is that out of the countless fans i see in my travels that support the London clubs, the Chelsea fans are mostly in the 20's and mouth breathers, Arsenal, an eclectic selection that are of more mature age, Spurs, old farts who live in the past and always thinking its going to be their year, next year. West Ham who are still saying its another transitional year. Fulham who just sit there and dream and consist mostly of families. I just didn't have the will to go through 470 pages of reading the Chelsipedia that started in the mid 90's. Just put my thoughts down. For those on here that don't like it. I do not apologise. As i said. I find John Terry odious in the extreme, both on and off the field. He is just the best we have at the moment. In fact if King at spurs had not had so many injuries, Terry would be in front of his TV watching.As one of the papers said recently, Chelsea, rolling in money, lacking in class. Looking at the other clubs, Arsenal a club more tight with their money than Spurs. Spurs, whose chairman wants top dollar for players like Jenas and Bentley, yet quibbles about knocking off a few bob to get the player the club desperately needs. I understand Cahill had agreed everything, when Levy wanted to knock the price down a bit more,so Cahill in effect told him to p  s off, who buys players like Saha and Nelsen(WTF) is trying to get another cheap deal for the Belgian CH, i can see that going the same way as Cahill, gets rid of the second? best English manager, (but what a gobby bloke) he is. and now, if we belive the papers, will do the transfers by means of a committee!!!!!. Should be fun watching who turns out for them next year.West Ham is run by porn barons, possibly they are mutually attracted to each other! So be grateful for what you have at the moment, the russian, could have bought Fulham, but chose you. When he gets fed up with his plaything, and throws the toys out of the pram. it will be back to the mediocrity you once knew. and join Arsenal, West Ham, Spurs, et al, who can only dream of such wealth. Dear me! I've read some tripe on here but this nonsense takes talking b  ks to a whole new level.
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Black can man
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He's spot on about Terry though
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RobbieKB
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52 months
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silverfoxcc said: And Pray tell what are GCSE's? When i took them they were GCE's and a lot harder than the dumbing down they are today, as you no doubt are aware of. You can boast they were harder back in your day, that doesn't mean you passed any. Or at least if you passed more than one, you weren't sure how to write about it. Whilst I'm writing, those fan generalisations were a real waste of your energy. What you're basically saying is: "I have met some fans of football teams in my life and of these fans, I've noticed a slight correlation that is largely nothing more than coincidence." You are right about Terry though, yeah.
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DocJock
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As a Hibs/Saints supporter I regard myself as an outsider looking in on the EPL (until the new season! D)
John Terry's personal life isn't exactly one you'd compliment if all you read about him is true.
As a player, up until about 2009/2010 season he was probably the best stopper in England, and a player who took responsibility for organising those around him and led by example, pretty much in the Tony Adams mould.
Since then, imo, his slight loss of pace, which was never great in the first place, has exposed his reading of the game as not as good as some other centre backs, That's why he makes so many last ditch tackles/blocks, because he has to where others would make a regular tackle.
His attitude to opponents and officials is poor to say the least, but in that respect he's hardly any worse than every other EPL pro as they all seem to have no respect for the officials. His on-field misdemeanours are no worse than other defenders, they are just better/more sly at disguising it. They all hold, obstruct, pull shirts, stand on toes, and all the rest of the cheating that passes as 'professionalism'.
I wouldn't say he's a person to aspire to be, but face it, just about every manager in these islands would have him in their squad if offered. He's not the best, but he's still a good, consistent performer who gets the best out of those around him.
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Ferg
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126 months
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DocJock said: ....they all seem to have no respect for the officials. I disagree. Some players are far worse then others in this respect (many don't see fit to argue) and John Terry is right up near the top. Since haranguing the referee has never led to the changing of a decision (in any game I've watched) I can only assume these players are extremely thick. Quite why referees don't make it known that ANY arguing with a decision will result in a card, I don't know. It's one of those things that would sort it out quite quickly...as our Rugby supporting, holier-than-thou, chums will always bee keen to tell us.
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TwigtheWonderkid
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DocJock said: As a Hibs/Saints supporter I regard myself as an outsider looking in on the EPL (until the new season! D)
John Terry's personal life isn't exactly one you'd compliment if all you read about him is true.
As a player, up until about 2009/2010 season he was probably the best stopper in England, and a player who took responsibility for organising those around him and led by example, pretty much in the Tony Adams mould.
Since then, imo, his slight loss of pace, which was never great in the first place, has exposed his reading of the game as not as good as some other centre backs, That's why he makes so many last ditch tackles/blocks, because he has to where others would make a regular tackle.
His attitude to opponents and officials is poor to say the least, but in that respect he's hardly any worse than every other EPL pro as they all seem to have no respect for the officials. His on-field misdemeanours are no worse than other defenders, they are just better/more sly at disguising it. They all hold, obstruct, pull shirts, stand on toes, and all the rest of the cheating that passes as 'professionalism'.
I wouldn't say he's a person to aspire to be, but face it, just about every manager in these islands would have him in their squad if offered. He's not the best, but he's still a good, consistent performer who gets the best out of those around him. DocJock, No one on here wants to listen to your balanced and sensible summary of the facts. You can't come on here and type sense like that. You have to slag Terry off as a bigger blight on humanity than Pol Pot. That's the way it works.
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DocJock
2,784 posts
109 months
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Oh yeah, I forgot where I was... 
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DocJock
2,784 posts
109 months
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ps, he's such a bad man I think Chelsea should sack him. I'll drive him up to Easter Road myself. 
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Black can man
10,982 posts
37 months
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TwigtheWonderkid said: DocJock said: As a Hibs/Saints supporter I regard myself as an outsider looking in on the EPL (until the new season! D)
John Terry's personal life isn't exactly one you'd compliment if all you read about him is true.
As a player, up until about 2009/2010 season he was probably the best stopper in England, and a player who took responsibility for organising those around him and led by example, pretty much in the Tony Adams mould.
Since then, imo, his slight loss of pace, which was never great in the first place, has exposed his reading of the game as not as good as some other centre backs, That's why he makes so many last ditch tackles/blocks, because he has to where others would make a regular tackle.
His attitude to opponents and officials is poor to say the least, but in that respect he's hardly any worse than every other EPL pro as they all seem to have no respect for the officials. His on-field misdemeanours are no worse than other defenders, they are just better/more sly at disguising it. They all hold, obstruct, pull shirts, stand on toes, and all the rest of the cheating that passes as 'professionalism'.
I wouldn't say he's a person to aspire to be, but face it, just about every manager in these islands would have him in their squad if offered. He's not the best, but he's still a good, consistent performer who gets the best out of those around him. DocJock, No one on here wants to listen to your balanced and sensible summary of the facts. You can't come on here and type sense like that. You have to slag Terry off as a bigger blight on humanity than Pol Pot. That's the way it works. Twig > Do you have John Terry posters on your bedroom walls ?
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TwigtheWonderkid
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19 months
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Ferg said: I disagree. Some players are far worse then others in this respect (many don't see fit to argue) and John Terry is right up near the top. Since haranguing the referee has never led to the changing of a decision (in any game I've watched) I can only assume these players are extremely thick. Can I ask where he ranks compared to say...Roy Keane. He who chased Andy D'Urso round the pitch with veins buldging, followed by Gary Neville, arguing over a penalty that the ref had got right anyway. And it's not only the players who are thick. Sir Alex constantly harangues refs, and questions their integrity, and pushes every boundery going. Keane, who also admitted trying to end another players career, a low that even John Terry hasn't sunk to, is now a pundit on ITV, commenting on international football when he ran away from his national team mid world cup. And Neville is on the England staff! And they knighted Alex!! Still, Terry's career isn't over yet. He still has time to sink to Man Utd levels of behaviour.
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TwigtheWonderkid
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19 months
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Black can man said: Twig > Do you have John Terry posters on your bedroom walls ? My wife won't let me. But she has the Jose Mourinho one up. Tsck...wimmin!
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Black can man
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37 months
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TwigtheWonderkid said: Black can man said: Twig > Do you have John Terry posters on your bedroom walls ? My wife won't let me. But she has the Jose Mourinho one up. Tsck...wimmin! Nice reply fella 
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DocJock
2,784 posts
109 months
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Ferg said: DocJock said: ....they all seem to have no respect for the officials. I disagree. Some players are far worse then others in this respect (many don't see fit to argue) and John Terry is right up near the top. Since haranguing the referee has never led to the changing of a decision (in any game I've watched) I can only assume these players are extremely thick. Quite why referees don't make it known that ANY arguing with a decision will result in a card, I don't know. It's one of those things that would sort it out quite quickly...as our Rugby supporting, holier-than-thou, chums will always bee keen to tell us. Hands up, I was using a bit of hyperbole. That said, it's just different degrees of bad though, don't you think? There seems to be behavioural traits that run through clubs, Chelsea, ManUtd and Arsenal are all pretty bad. Maybe the attitude is instilled by the manager? I'll modify my assertion to 'most players argue referee's decisions' I totally agree that a couple of weeks of 20 cards per match would virtually eliminate the problem. The rugby principle of the captain being allowed to question the referee for clarification is great, but dissent is starting to creep in to international rugby as well.
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essexplumber
7,286 posts
42 months
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John Terry, great defender but comes across as a complete  .
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Ferg
15,242 posts
126 months
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TwigtheWonderkid said: Can I ask where he ranks compared to say...Roy Keane. Sure. I don't think he's as bad.
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TwigtheWonderkid
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19 months
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Ferg said: TwigtheWonderkid said: Can I ask where he ranks compared to say...Roy Keane. Sure. I don't think he's as bad.  
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Ferg
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126 months
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TwigtheWonderkid said: Ferg said: TwigtheWonderkid said: Can I ask where he ranks compared to say...Roy Keane. Sure. I don't think he's as bad.   
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DocJock
2,784 posts
109 months
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Indeed.
Methinks Twig has misread your reply.
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TwigtheWonderkid
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19 months
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I assumed he meant Keane isn't as bad as Terry. Maybe he meant Terry not as bad as Keane. I'm completely lost now.
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