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[Black can man]

anonymous said:

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More like League of "money please & fk the others "i'd say.


I do think tis will happen sooner or later, but having just 18 teams to play in a season & every season will be as dull as dishwater.

If the teams that think they are too big to play the likes of Stoke, Bournemouth& the Shorpe's of this world then they can bigger off & our game would be better for it.

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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I was joking, we have the Champions League already, I don't think it will change, too much money in the PL for them to risk doing that. I want to see Utd playing Liverpool and Spuds etc, couldn't give a fk about Real, Barca etc week in week out

[Black can man]

anonymous said:

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I think all the fans of all the bigger clubs would also agree .

[Adam B]

Black can man said:

anonymous said:

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I think all the fans of all the bigger clubs would also agree .

hear hear - part of the popularity of the EPL is that your team plays the teams your mates support, and the ensuing rivalry and ribbing in either direction. None of my mates support Real, PSG or Bayern and I don't care about any of them

[DeltonaS]

anonymous said:

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Dalian Wanda plans rival to Uefa Champions League

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/09/
https://next.ft.com/content/7af1f348-442b-11e6-9b6...

Football is not moving into the right direction.

[DeltonaS]

Adam B said:

Black can man said:

anonymous said:

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I think all the fans of all the bigger clubs would also agree .

hear hear - part of the popularity of the EPL is that your team plays the teams your mates support, and the ensuing rivalry and ribbing in either direction. None of my mates support Real, PSG or Bayern and I don't care about any of them

Except you forget that the vast sum of tv right money isn't because of the Bournemouth's, Stokes, Swansea's, Southampton's or even Everton or Tottenham.

Likewise the popularity of the Spanish leaque, Barcelona and Real (and occasionally Atletico or Valencia maybe) are the clubs that sell the leaque in the world. Bayern and BvB the German leaque.

[London424]

DeltonaS said:

Adam B said:

Black can man said:

anonymous said:

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I think all the fans of all the bigger clubs would also agree .

hear hear - part of the popularity of the EPL is that your team plays the teams your mates support, and the ensuing rivalry and ribbing in either direction. None of my mates support Real, PSG or Bayern and I don't care about any of them

Except you forget that the vast sum of tv right money isn't because of the Bournemouth's, Stokes, Swansea's, Southampton's or even Everton or Tottenham.

Likewise the popularity of the Spanish leaque, Barcelona and Real (and occasionally Atletico or Valencia maybe) are the clubs that sell the leaque in the world. Bayern and BvB the German leaque.

It's an interesting one. Currently the PL TV money dwarf the CL money. So contradicts your argument. However if you took out the Top 4 from England (how do we decide this by the way?) would the TV money switch or would it not be as attractive proposition.

I know what I'd prefer to watch.

[hilly10]

anonymous said:

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I agree whole heartedly, we have the best league in the world regards entertainment, long may it continue.

[Adam B]

DeltonaS said:

Except you forget that the vast sum of tv right money isn't because of the Bournemouth's, Stokes, Swansea's, Southampton's or even Everton or Tottenham.

Likewise the popularity of the Spanish leaque, Barcelona and Real (and occasionally Atletico or Valencia maybe) are the clubs that sell the leaque in the world. Bayern and BvB the German leaque.

I am not forgetting that, its just a different point

I have friends who support Bournemouth, Spurs and Southampton (from the ones you mention) and I enjoy it when my side (Liverpool) play those sides and the ensuing banter. If Liverpool were one of the break away clubs I would have little interest in the games vs Barca, Bayern, PSG etc and less interest in the game in general.

So I would vote with my feet and cancel my sky sports subscription which I only keep due to EPL

[SilverSpur]

Adam B said:

I am not forgetting that, its just a different point

I have friends who support Bournemouth, Spurs and Southampton (from the ones you mention) and I enjoy it when my side (Liverpool) play those sides and the ensuing banter. If Liverpool were one of the break away clubs I would have little interest in the games vs Barca, Bayern, PSG etc and less interest in the game in general.

So I would vote with my feet and cancel my sky sports subscription which I only keep due to EPL

IF 4 clubs break away Liverpool won't be one of them I don't think. However, Liverpool would then be in a great position to win the league, and might join the other clubs in a one out/one in promotion type scenario.

[Blue62]

Why has the Everton thread suddenly been infested with folk wanting to discuss a breakaway super league? You're all more than welcome, at least it's a distraction from the tedium of discussing our transfer misses. I personally think there's too much money in the PL, a lot of the pressure is coming from envious European clubs wanting a slice, wasn't so long ago that Celtic and Rangers were knocking on the door to join the PL, who would have them now?

[DeltonaS]

London424 said:

DeltonaS said:

Adam B said:

Black can man said:

anonymous said:

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I think all the fans of all the bigger clubs would also agree .

hear hear - part of the popularity of the EPL is that your team plays the teams your mates support, and the ensuing rivalry and ribbing in either direction. None of my mates support Real, PSG or Bayern and I don't care about any of them

Except you forget that the vast sum of tv right money isn't because of the Bournemouth's, Stokes, Swansea's, Southampton's or even Everton or Tottenham.

Likewise the popularity of the Spanish leaque, Barcelona and Real (and occasionally Atletico or Valencia maybe) are the clubs that sell the leaque in the world. Bayern and BvB the German leaque.

It's an interesting one. Currently the PL TV money dwarf the CL money. So contradicts your argument. However if you took out the Top 4 from England (how do we decide this by the way?) would the TV money switch or would it not be as attractive proposition.

I know what I'd prefer to watch.

Dwarfs ? well yes and no, clubs directly earn anywhere between 20 to 35 million Euro, but for only 6 group stage CL matches. And probably triple that for the winner. But that excludes everything else from sponsordeals, to match day revenues etc.

Still a significant sum for most EPL squads. But it certainly is a lot money for by far most clubs in Europe, including those in for instance Spain and Germany. And think about the extra exposure in the world for the clubs and leaques that the CL generates, or even the ability to attract players. Part of the EPL tv rights money can be related to the exposure of EPL clubs and players in the CL.

Playing CL is vital for the big clubs.

But the foundation of a "Euro super league" will be another step in club elitism, diminishing Europe's other leagues and clubs even more.

A step by the way which the UEFA themselves began, by favouring the Italian, German, Spanish and English leagues in 2001 with anywhere between 3 to 5 CL spots, while the rest of Europe has to make due with 1, sometimes 2 or even 0 spots. Plus a large divide between EL and CL revenues, a factor 10 in the early years. Clubs like Barcelona, Real, Bayern, Juventus etc. are basically CL guaranteed, factor in the revenues over the past 15 years and it's no wonder that the CL has become so predictable.

UEFA has to make a choice, either go all the way to a Euro leaque (not lead by a Chinese or other marketing lead party) or go back to normality and base European football around the domestic leaques again.

[T66ORA]

T66ORA said:

Looks like the Aston Villa lad Idrissa Gueye is due a medical on Monday.

Small hiccup with the medical, no surprise there with our medicals, 4yr deal, think Osman replacement and it feels a bit better

[hilly10]

Rumours Ashley Williams on the radar, short term replacement for Stones

[hilly10]

Get a chance to see what the guys are like,as Rooneys Testimonial is on BT Sport tomorrow night

In Ultra HD as well

Edited by hilly10 on Tuesday 2nd August 20:54

[Blue62]

T66ORA said:

Small hiccup with the medical, no surprise there with our medicals, 4yr deal, think Osman replacement and it feels a bit better

Good to see he survived the ducking stool that is an Everton medical. I'm happy with him, he breaks up play and wins the ball, if we get Williams and a marquee centre midfielder I will be ok with that for the back line, given the fact that Stones has gone.

[Adam B]

hilly10 said:

Get a chance to see what the guys are like,as Rooneys Testimonial is on BT Sport tomorrow night

In Ultra HD as well

Rodney's mug in ultra HD? Think I'll pass.

Another modern menace - testimonials should be on retirement from the game

[hilly10]

Adam B said:

Rodney's mug in ultra HD? Think I'll pass.

Yes there is that I suppose

[m3sye]

Adam B said:

Rodney's mug in ultra HD? Think I'll pass.

Another modern menace - testimonials should be on retirement from the game

Doesn't pretty much every player give the gate receipt to the charity they work with anyway? No bad thing surely?

[SilverSpur]

m3sye said:

Doesn't pretty much every player give the gate receipt to the charity they work with anyway? No bad thing surely?

Probably because now its a tax advantage to do so.... Used to be to buy them a pub in their retirement.

Wonder what Wayne's charity is? Retired Hookers of Merseyside?

To be fair, yes, charity, all good. Thumbsup.