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I’ll desist from rising to HannsG’s bait. I think all Toon fans realise that FFP is the biggest hurdle to future success on the pitch. With no European football next season, will the ‘Big 6’ come in to tempt the likes of Isak and Bruno away from NUFC? It will be very telling to see what happens in the next transfer window because it is clear change is needed. I’m minded of the time when Kev sold Cole to Manure and the fans were in disbelief. A year later, Shearer arrived to take the 9 shirt and we all know what happened next. We are in so much a better place than with the previous owner and manager, just need to trust that the Board will make the right moves to continue the path forwards.
I'll maintain that last season has massively skewed expectations. This is probably the season we should have had in 22-23, it would have still been an improvement on previous years. Doesn't mean it isn't incredibly frustrating to watch mind.
Rumours in the press today that Man City will activate Brunos £100m release clause.
Rumours in the press today that Man City will activate Brunos £100m release clause.
If we can drag ourselves to 7th, I'll consider it a decent season, given the trials and tribulations.
I suspect Bruno will be off and I wouldn't blame him or the club if City did activate that clause. We're not in their league and the money can be invested in strengthening the team.
We could generate £150m of sales by clearing out a little. That gives a lot of headroom to strengthen.
I suspect Bruno will be off and I wouldn't blame him or the club if City did activate that clause. We're not in their league and the money can be invested in strengthening the team.
We could generate £150m of sales by clearing out a little. That gives a lot of headroom to strengthen.
Whilst it's true to say that FFP has hidebound the club, I can't help but feel that Eddie is tactically naive at best. There's little doubt he has lost the team a significant number of winnable fixtures this season and I expect his days are numbered.
He seems a lovely bloke and presents well to the press but I don't expect him to be here at the end of the season.
...just a throw away thought - would he have the skills to be new director of football if a more tactically astute manager is brought in?
He seems a lovely bloke and presents well to the press but I don't expect him to be here at the end of the season.
...just a throw away thought - would he have the skills to be new director of football if a more tactically astute manager is brought in?
I think last season's (now) clear overachievement is skewing things somewhat.
He has enough credit in the bank to be leading us into next season for me.
Are the FFP rules not away to get changed in the summer? I'd be more worried about losing the likes of Guimaraes and Isak. If Arsenal had any sense they'd go in for Isak.
He has enough credit in the bank to be leading us into next season for me.
Are the FFP rules not away to get changed in the summer? I'd be more worried about losing the likes of Guimaraes and Isak. If Arsenal had any sense they'd go in for Isak.
Edited by Patrick Bateman on Tuesday 12th March 12:46
Patrick Bateman said:
Are the FFP rules not away to get changed in the summer? I'd be more worried about losing the likes of Guimaraes and Isak. If Arsenal had any sense they'd go in for Isak.
From what I've read, admittedly quite brief, the rules are rumoured to align with UEFA FFP meaning a club can spend 70% of turnover on transfers and wages, and a loss allowance of £50m over three years, instead of £105m. It would enable us the ability to strengthen, but the top six will still have a massive advantage when it comes to spending, so it just strengthens the gap.ajap1979 said:
From what I've read, admittedly quite brief, the rules are rumoured to align with UEFA FFP meaning a club can spend 70% of turnover on transfers and wages, and a loss allowance of £50m over three years, instead of £105m. It would enable us the ability to strengthen, but the top six will still have a massive advantage when it comes to spending, so it just strengthens the gap.
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BHH #You'll do for me bonny lad #if Rafa goes we go
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Chicken Chaser said:
So who do you bring in to make this lot tick?
Exactly.I'm prepared to stick with Eddie, he's having a torrid time, what with injuries, press speculation about his and the players futures. Look around the premiership, so many managers are "under threat". Some are doing better than NUFC, others aren't.
I'm convinced there's problems behind closed doors, the owners, the management, players getting tempted away, others with their future in question. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't walk rather than get the heave-ho.
Got a fair few friends who are Newcastle fans so keep tabs on them. From an outsider looking in there just seems to be unbalance all over. Supposedly the richest club in the world? Supposedly have to sell before they can buy though? For a team who should have European ambition as a minimum, are the likes of Willock, Murphy (great goal though last night!), Longstaff, even Almiron (who was totally invisible last night) etc good enough? Then on the flip side theres the likes of Bruno (I'll not even attempt his surname), Isak etc who look like they'd walk into most top 6 starting 11s. Feels like you have half a team that are leftovers from the Championship with a few really good players... in which case mid table is probably fairly good (but at odds with the money you have but can't spend!). Then there is Howe. Out of his depth at this level? Certainly the rumours about him becoming he next national side manager have dried up seemingly... Hope they improve but as others have said, you made Chelsea look like a half decent, proper "team" last night instead of a load of strangers thrown onto a football pitch.
DaveyBoyWonder said:
Got a fair few friends who are Newcastle fans so keep tabs on them. From an outsider looking in there just seems to be unbalance all over. Supposedly the richest club in the world? Supposedly have to sell before they can buy though? For a team who should have European ambition as a minimum, are the likes of Willock, Murphy (great goal though last night!), Longstaff, even Almiron (who was totally invisible last night) etc good enough? Then on the flip side theres the likes of Bruno (I'll not even attempt his surname), Isak etc who look like they'd walk into most top 6 starting 11s. Feels like you have half a team that are leftovers from the Championship with a few really good players... in which case mid table is probably fairly good (but at odds with the money you have but can't spend!). Then there is Howe. Out of his depth at this level? Certainly the rumours about him becoming he next national side manager have dried up seemingly... Hope they improve but as others have said, you made Chelsea look like a half decent, proper "team" last night instead of a load of strangers thrown onto a football pitch.
Supposedly the richest club in the world who have to abide by FFP rules which severely limit the ability to simply dump cash into the squad in the same vein as Chelsea and City have done prior to FFP, you mean?Chicken Chaser said:
HannsG said:
Let this stat sink in. Eddie Howe is on course to conceding 60+ goals in a season for a sixth (out of seven) time in the Premier League.
Eddie operating beyond his station now. Want him gone. He stil ain't learning, not proactive and subs are ridiculous. Continues to plays Burn and Longstaff. Bruno will be gone, no champions league, mid table at best.
Post match shenanigans Eddie sounds like a politician. Might aswell be a Tory at this rate. Eddie Howe out. I'm done with it and the Eddie Howe crotch sniffers.
I refuse to remember the Ashley years cos I look ahead. That times gone and won't change owt. There have been 5 transfer windows since that fat sod left.
So who do you bring in to make this lot tick? Eddie operating beyond his station now. Want him gone. He stil ain't learning, not proactive and subs are ridiculous. Continues to plays Burn and Longstaff. Bruno will be gone, no champions league, mid table at best.
Post match shenanigans Eddie sounds like a politician. Might aswell be a Tory at this rate. Eddie Howe out. I'm done with it and the Eddie Howe crotch sniffers.
I refuse to remember the Ashley years cos I look ahead. That times gone and won't change owt. There have been 5 transfer windows since that fat sod left.
Edited by HannsG on Tuesday 12th March 08:53
Go to market and splash the cash I assume. Senior management have a roadmap to success and what they want to achieve. As a management proposition it would tick a lot of boxes for decent calibre football managers.
Howe was always meant to be an interim. I'm tired of the virtue signalling from other fans also who keep harking back to the Bruce days. They have their opinions and I have mine. Howe had reached his peak powers in my opinion last season.
Still waiting for a plan B, C or even D when it comes to play.
Edited by HannsG on Tuesday 12th March 15:30
It does feel that there is something off within the club, as the body language of the players and Eddie himself isn't as bouyant as it was last season. Maybe that's just because the results aren't going our way? Maybe the Ashworth saga has caused some problems within? I feel we needed momentum to be with us this season to tempt our latest signings in staying for the long term. Slipping into mid table/lower half isn't a good sign for progression, and we should still be aiming for some kind of Euro competition as a minimum. I still think Eddie has what it takes to take us to that next level, I can't be concerned with his subs during the winter when our bench had 2 keepers and a load of kids on it. The latest form is worrying though as things haven't taken an upturn as players have come back. I'm expecting us to get pumped at the weekend, which leaves us only the league to try and dig out way out to something this season.
DaveyBoyWonder said:
Got a fair few friends who are Newcastle fans so keep tabs on them. From an outsider looking in there just seems to be unbalance all over. Supposedly the richest club in the world? Supposedly have to sell before they can buy though? For a team who should have European ambition as a minimum, are the likes of Willock, Murphy (great goal though last night!), Longstaff, even Almiron (who was totally invisible last night) etc good enough? Then on the flip side theres the likes of Bruno (I'll not even attempt his surname), Isak etc who look like they'd walk into most top 6 starting 11s. Feels like you have half a team that are leftovers from the Championship with a few really good players... in which case mid table is probably fairly good (but at odds with the money you have but can't spend!). Then there is Howe. Out of his depth at this level? Certainly the rumours about him becoming he next national side manager have dried up seemingly... Hope they improve but as others have said, you made Chelsea look like a half decent, proper "team" last night instead of a load of strangers thrown onto a football pitch.
Willock is a great player, but I agree about the mix of exceptional talent and bang average players. Longstaff has offered nothing recently, Miggy is a headless chicken at times, Burn looks like he's getting past it, Krafth and Murphy are squad players at best. I think Eddie has had a bad run of luck with injuries and the Tonali thing which has really set us back. Pope and Joelinton have been a massive miss. He's made mistakes like many other managers, but I think he's done enough to show deserves some time and patience. There's no accounting for players whose form has dipped though. (Trippier and Botman!)
Skyedriver said:
That's all we need, cruciate ligament?
ACL to the knee apparently. Needs confirming by the club obviously. Could be complete tosh as I gather scans are done after 48 hours once swelling has reduced.Eitherway hope he gets fit quick and it's minor. Unsure what the physio was playing at when he want to Gordon during the Chelsea match. Gordon looked well unhappy with his treatment on the pitch.
Edited by HannsG on Tuesday 12th March 20:03
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