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hilly10 said:
Robbie Savage on MOTD kettle calling black springs to mind how can he go on about the incident . I know Pardew is wrong but RS judging. Come on.
Exactly what I said when watching it.Massive, massive, over reaction from the media over this in my opinion. This happens between players week in week out, occasionally with the ridiculous reaction like Vertonghen did the other night. His 'fine' (I doubt for one second Ashley has fined him £100k, he'll be loving the publicity/free advertising) and subsequent FA fine and touchline ban will be enough. I reckon something like a 10 game touchline ban?
Real pity as MOTD didn't actually show any of the goals, Sissoko's first was a beaut. Remy looked on fire and De Jong looked good but in dire need of a goal. Really good team performance from Newcastle!
LiamM45 said:
This happens between players week in week out,
Very true, and when it does it should be the manager having a go at his player for getting himself send off and banned and moaning that the player's lack of discipline has been detrimental to the club. Not sure how Pardew can do that in the future.TwigtheWonderkid said:
Very true, and when it does it should be the manager having a go at his player for getting himself send off and banned and moaning that the player's lack of discipline has been detrimental to the club. Not sure how Pardew can do that in the future.
Fully agree, he should set an example to his players on how to behave, and that's going to be tricky for him now...He's made a total dick move doing this. It just annoys the hell out of me that the first time we play well in a while it's totally overshadowed by something as stupid as this.
Hammer67 said:
I`ve nothing against Pardew, he was great for us for a couple of years but he`s cooked his goose here.
Were you or I, whilst at work, to head butt someone, anyone, doesn't matter who, what would you expect from your employer? The sack for gross misconduct swiftly followed by arrest and an assault charge would be my expectation.
Why is this any different? especially as it`s on national TV seen by millions. Why hasn't Pardew been arrested?
What would happen if Joe Public in the crowd had wandered into the technical area and butted Pardew? I would think the Police in the stadium would arrest him n`est pas?
£100K fine from his club? yeah right.
Okay he is a manager but why single out Pardew for arrest ? when countless footballers have headbutted , spat , punched and kicked in a football match?Were you or I, whilst at work, to head butt someone, anyone, doesn't matter who, what would you expect from your employer? The sack for gross misconduct swiftly followed by arrest and an assault charge would be my expectation.
Why is this any different? especially as it`s on national TV seen by millions. Why hasn't Pardew been arrested?
What would happen if Joe Public in the crowd had wandered into the technical area and butted Pardew? I would think the Police in the stadium would arrest him n`est pas?
£100K fine from his club? yeah right.
Why suspicion on 100k fine ??
LiamM45 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Very true, and when it does it should be the manager having a go at his player for getting himself send off and banned and moaning that the player's lack of discipline has been detrimental to the club. Not sure how Pardew can do that in the future.
Fully agree, he should set an example to his players on how to behave, and that's going to be tricky for him now...He's made a total dick move doing this. It just annoys the hell out of me that the first time we play well in a while it's totally overshadowed by something as stupid as this.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I think the answer is in the first 5 words of your question!
So you'd have a manager arrested yet ignore any player doing the same?There are far more incidents of unwarranted violence or aggression on the pitch than the touchline.
How many of those get passed onto the Police?
If you think Pardews headbutt invites censorship from the authorities what do you make of Charlie Adams blatant assault on the Arsenal lads leg yesterday?
The incident with Pardew has been dealt with by the club and will be dealt with by the FA.
He is still a cock IMO for doing it mind you.
ker.Pardew acted like an idiot and has got what he's deserved, in fact a sacking wouldn't have surprised anyone.
However, little has been said of Meyler's action that caused Pardew to lose his rag. Shoving the opposition teams manager is so far out of order its surely worthy of disciplinary action as well - but not seeing any mention of it. (A yellow card doesn't count imho as arguably it could have been given for his reaction afterwards)
How would any fan of any other team react if a player did this to your manager?
Hull/FA need to take action against him as well.
However, little has been said of Meyler's action that caused Pardew to lose his rag. Shoving the opposition teams manager is so far out of order its surely worthy of disciplinary action as well - but not seeing any mention of it. (A yellow card doesn't count imho as arguably it could have been given for his reaction afterwards)
How would any fan of any other team react if a player did this to your manager?
Hull/FA need to take action against him as well.
As a few others have said, I think this is a massive overreaction from the media.
Yes, Pardew was out of line and he should get a serious touchline ban; but sacked? Too much IMO.
It wasn't even a real headbutt. It was a carbon copy of the Remy incident a fee weeks back. This will cause big issues for Pardew in the future though, especially if he's required to berate players for violent conduct.
Meyler was out of order too; he had no reason to charge into Pardew. In the same position, had somebody banged into me with intent, I probably would have lost my rag too. Then again, I'm not a PL manager....
Yes, Pardew was out of line and he should get a serious touchline ban; but sacked? Too much IMO.
It wasn't even a real headbutt. It was a carbon copy of the Remy incident a fee weeks back. This will cause big issues for Pardew in the future though, especially if he's required to berate players for violent conduct.
Meyler was out of order too; he had no reason to charge into Pardew. In the same position, had somebody banged into me with intent, I probably would have lost my rag too. Then again, I'm not a PL manager....
I find it amazing that there are people on here comparing the actions of a manager, who is not part of the field of play and therefore not involved in the physical side which often leads to misdemeanours , to those of players . Yes, players headbutt and spit and, no, it's not acceptable either but to proclaim that because one does it then the penalty for the other should be the same is laughable.
Pardew has form and the FA will throw the book at him and some.
Pardew has form and the FA will throw the book at him and some.
Meyler pushed Pardew aggressively for no real reason.
Pardew was massively out of order, and quite crazy to react the way he did, but it was a reaction and not an instigation. Important difference IMO.
On a broader note, Football needs to chill a bit, loads worse happens in Rubgy, not to mention Ice Hockey where people violently attack each other?
This is pure handbags in comparison no?
Pardew was massively out of order, and quite crazy to react the way he did, but it was a reaction and not an instigation. Important difference IMO.
On a broader note, Football needs to chill a bit, loads worse happens in Rubgy, not to mention Ice Hockey where people violently attack each other?
This is pure handbags in comparison no?
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