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Booey
6,500 posts
49 months
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CIE560 said: Booey said: Henderson is Henderson but with him, Downing and Carroll having had such a terrific season for Liverpool anything is possible. Certainly is! Except anything positive, that isn't possible.  They could all stay on the bench!? That could be positive. Except perhaps Carroll, I think we should give him a chance. He looked good towards the end of last season. I would play: Walcott - Ox - Parker - Young Gerrard Carroll/Rooney. Perhaps Rooney could drop back if Carroll is looking good in the first couple of games.
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Black can man
10,909 posts
37 months
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Booey said: CIE560 said: Booey said: Henderson is Henderson but with him, Downing and Carroll having had such a terrific season for Liverpool anything is possible. Certainly is! Except anything positive, that isn't possible. They could all stay on the bench!? That could be positive. Except perhaps Carroll, I think we should give him a chance. He looked good towards the end of last season. I would play: Walcott - Ox - Parker - Young Gerrard Carroll/Rooney. We could be on our way home before Rooney plays
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kippax
2,297 posts
118 months
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130R said: Henderson, Downing and Carroll vs Xavi, Alonso and Fabregas. What could go wrong? Not forgetting David Silva!
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MiniMan64
7,529 posts
59 months
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So a Chelski back four, a Liverpool midfield and once Rooney returns a United front row?
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Booey
6,500 posts
49 months
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kippax said: 130R said: Henderson, Downing and Carroll vs Xavi, Alonso and Fabregas. What could go wrong? Not forgetting David Silva! Plus Mata, Llorente, Iniesta, Torres, Piqué, Ramos.. they have a ridiculous amount of talent. Germany are also looking like a, to use the British press phase, 'Golden Generation'. They have some real quality in midfield and upfront. Dutch are good as always. I am getting excited about the tournement typing this!!!!!! C'mon England!!!!!!! Let's do a Greece.
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Cheib
6,177 posts
44 months
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Three central midfielders out....not having much luck. Lampard will be missed because of his experience....of the three though I'd say Wilshere is the biggest miss...he offers something that England haven't had for a very long time in midfield...the ability to retain possession with his passing game. I might be an Arsenal fan but there's no one else like him in England.
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CIE560
10,440 posts
62 months
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MiniMan64 said: So a Chelski back four, a Liverpool midfield and once Rooney returns a United front row? When you say it like that it doesn't sound bad...
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F1GTRUeno
1,941 posts
87 months
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Lampard out (not such a bad thing because he's always been invisible for England).
But really, overrated half-fit Parker, rubbish Milner and particularly awful/not sure how he's a professional footballer Henderson vying for central midfield spots (surely he can't play Gerrard in the middle, he wasn't even good at that in his prime). Might as well not bother.
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GALLARDOGUY
4,244 posts
88 months
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Gerrard never a good centre midfielder?
I've heard it all now!
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Booey
6,500 posts
49 months
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GALLARDOGUY said: Gerrard never a good centre midfielder?
I've heard it all now! Well, he does like to run forward without looking back, doesn't he? Much better when having the freedom just behind the striker in my opinion.
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mickk
11,850 posts
111 months
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GALLARDOGUY said: Gerrard never a good centre midfielder?
I've heard it all now!  Try and stay calm.
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Hammer67
2,630 posts
53 months
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Right chaps. Enough of the doom and gloom. Hodgson? better than some foreign chancer. Englands current team? better than most foreign ones. Good enough to beat anyone on its day. Time to suspend our inter~club biatching and get behind our boys. COY England, ram it up right up the overseas gimps. Just f  king do it.
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GALLARDOGUY
4,244 posts
88 months
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mickk said: Try and stay calm. I'm calmly shaking my head in disbelief!
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Original Poster
27,843 posts
86 months
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Hammer67 said: Right chaps. Enough of the doom and gloom. Hodgson? better than some foreign chancer. Englands current team? better than most foreign ones. Good enough to beat anyone on its day. Time to suspend our inter~club biatching and get behind our boys. COY England, ram it up right up the overseas gimps. Just f king do it.  "3-2-1. And your back in room"
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vonuber
3,882 posts
34 months
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In the wise words of Alan Shearer, 'not one of those players would make the England team'.
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CaptainSlow
4,074 posts
81 months
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My starting team without Shrek would be:
Hart
Richards JT Cahill Cole
Parker Scholes
Walcott Gerrard Young
Defoe
After ~70 mins changed to
Hart
Richards JT Cahill Cole
Parker Gerrard
Ox Young Johnson
Defoe
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Wadeski
5,742 posts
82 months
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Hart
Chelsea
Walcott - Ox - Parker - Young
Gerrard
Carroll
Job jobbed?
I'd have liked to have seen Sturridge in the squad as an option up front with Carrol late in the game, though.
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F1GTRUeno
1,941 posts
87 months
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Booey said: Well, he does like to run forward without looking back, doesn't he? Much better when having the freedom just behind the striker in my opinion. He was either shunted out to the right by Rafa (due to lack of tactical discipline and a tendency for useless hollywood passes) or he was played as a second striker behind Torres. Whenever he played in the middle for either Liverpool or especially for England he's been terrible. I'm not denying he's been one of the world's best players during his career but a central midfielder he isn't, certainly not now he's completely past it.
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TwigtheWonderkid
6,029 posts
19 months
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F1GTRUeno said: Lampard out (not such a bad thing because he's always been invisible for England). Yes, 23 goals in 90 appearances (some of those as sub) from midfield. He hasn't contributed at all! 
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Raja
3,417 posts
104 months
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Henderson best have his adult nappies on if he gets anywhere near the pitch. If it wasn't for his price tag and appearing on the pitch when we played - I refuse to use the term 'played' as he was pretty much invisible most games, this boy would never get in the national team.
As for playing Gerrard in a midfield 2 - even at his peak Rafa preferred to play him further forward or even on the right. I'd hate to see Henderson line up next to Gerrard. Hope Parker gets fit in time.
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