The Official West Ham United Thread.

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pincher

8,569 posts

218 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Remanded in custody until 7th August rolleyes

BrabusMog

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20,179 posts

187 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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And they wanted to give him a new contract?! What a pillock this boy is and, now, we'll not even be able to make any money on him if we do move him on.

pincher

8,569 posts

218 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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I reckon that must be him done now, surely? Let Harry see if he can sort him out.

I've always been willing to give him a(nother) chance but enough is enough. There's no smoke without fire and SAF was probably right - great ability mixed with poor attitude does not a great footballer make.

TCEvo

12,726 posts

203 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Hopeless case really & we can't have him dragging the Club into his bks. Presumably we'll have to wait on the outcome re his future but given that he was out w/ injury/operation I hadn't expected him to take much part at the start of the season anyway - might've seen him late Oct/Nov?

In more positive news... and taken from KUMB:

"Carl Jenkinson is one the verge of becoming a Hammer after successfully completing a medical. The Arsenal right-back is poised to join West Ham on a season-long loan following the arrival of Calum Chambers and Mathieu Debuchy and is understood to have completed the examination this lunchtime [Thursday]."

bad company

18,623 posts

267 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Can't get my head around having & wasting all that talent. Wish I had had 10% of his ability

RichB

51,595 posts

285 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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The jiffle king said:
...he seems to put himself in the wrong place too often
As for the wrong place, Sir Alex said he needed to get away from Manchester to start a new life. Seems he was spot on. frown

TCEvo

12,726 posts

203 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Jenkinson loan completed; don't know much about him but sounds a decent signing.

http://www.whufc.com/articles/20140731/hammers-loa...

MrMagoo

3,208 posts

163 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Jenks is a good player, very attack minded (maybe too much) he's been caught out a few times for us.

He needs a run of games something he won't get for us, will be intresting to see how he develops.

TCEvo

12,726 posts

203 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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He'll be competing w/ Guy Demel for the position so not guaranteed a starting place unless Demel picks up a problem.

bad company

18,623 posts

267 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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RichB said:
As for the wrong place, Sir Alex said he needed to get away from Manchester to start a new life. Seems he was spot on. frown
He is probably in Strangeways now which is certainly not a good place to be.

Having said all that I hope we see him back in a WH shirt. Can't see too many top sides looking to sign him now.

RichB

51,595 posts

285 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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bad company said:
Having said all that I hope we see him back in a WH shirt..
Really? My gut reaction was Adios Amigo. He seems like nothing but trouble but interested in your contrary opinion.

bad company

18,623 posts

267 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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RichB said:
Really? My gut reaction was Adios Amigo. He seems like nothing but trouble but interested in your contrary opinion.
RM is a fantastic footballer IMO. I remember people saying George Best was nothing but trouble but hey what a (flawed) talent.

BrabusMog

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20,179 posts

187 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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I'm all for second chances but I draw the line at sixth/seventh/eighth chances. He needs to go, we need to move on and try and sign someone to replace him. Such a shame but, as in business, you have to be brutal sometimes to move things forward the way that benefits the business, not the individual.

bad company

18,623 posts

267 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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BrabusMog said:
I'm all for second chances but I draw the line at sixth/seventh/eighth chances. He needs to go, we need to move on and try and sign someone to replace him. Such a shame but, as in business, you have to be brutal sometimes to move things forward the way that benefits the business, not the individual.
If we sell we will get very little for him now. I can see where you are coming from and I'm not kidding myself that he won't be a pain in the **** again BUT given his talent and lack of transfer value I say hang on.

Having said that if somebody was to make a good offer . . . .

BrabusMog

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20,179 posts

187 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Pretty sure I remember that you had your own business bad company? Think to when there was an employee you thought was lieing, or you just thought you were being bullstted? What did you do? Got rid, I'd guess. Unfortunately that's what has to happen here, he's just going to be a major disruption otherwise,

bad company

18,623 posts

267 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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BrabusMog said:
Pretty sure I remember that you had your own business bad company? Think to when there was an employee you thought was lieing, or you just thought you were being bullstted? What did you do? Got rid, I'd guess. Unfortunately that's what has to happen here, he's just going to be a major disruption otherwise,
So would you fire him? That means giving him away for nothing.

Yes you're right I did run a business and once had the problem where my 'star' and most productive employee was also highly disruptive. I managed the situation for a while then he resigned.

BrabusMog

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20,179 posts

187 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Considering he was out on loan for half a season and we achieved our goal of survival then yes, I would sack him.

I hired someone 4 or 5 months ago that I thought would be a real asset but, it turns out, he's a lieing, bullstting, lazy idiot who has cost me and the business quite a chunk of cash through various howling mistakes. He won't be getting the chance to resign. That's how I feel it should be with Morrison. Surely not being able to train as he's banged up should be gross misconduct? Cancel the contract and move on, we are supposed to be a club with integrity.

RichB

51,595 posts

285 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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BrabusMog said:
...He won't be getting the chance to resign. That's how I feel it should be with Morrison. Surely not being able to train as he's banged up should be gross misconduct? Cancel the contract and move on, we are supposed to be a club with integrity.
Sadly that's how I feel about him too. He doesn't have the charisma of George Best either does he wink
In fact as George Best is probably one of my all time favourite footballers who I was fortunate enough to watch many times both when ManU played the Hammers and later at Fulham I shouldn't actually mentioned Best and Morrison in the same breath !

TCEvo

12,726 posts

203 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Were we ever likely to get anything for him anyway? The whole RM saga seems to have been a clusterfk of smoke & mirrors from day one.

Re firing/not firing etc presumably there's a clause within his contract that enables us to get rid - we sacked one of the youth kids for racist abuse last season (think he joined the tractor boys this week) & I remember chelski sacking mutu for a bit of blow (only to get upset when he re-signed elsewhere rolleyes).

Doubt that the Club will make a decision before the outcome of a hearing/trial but hopefully they will act quickly afterwards as it's clear that this bks can't continue.


bad company

18,623 posts

267 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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RichB said:
Sadly that's how I feel about him too. He doesn't have the charisma of George Best either does he wink
In fact as George Best is probably one of my all time favourite footballers who I was fortunate enough to watch many times both when ManU played the Hammers and later at Fulham I shouldn't actually mentioned Best and Morrison in the same breath !
Can't agree there. I think RM has/had the ability to be every bit as good as Best. Sadly he will never achieve his potential so we will never know.
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