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Streetym89

933 posts

150 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Managerial merry go round continues, whilst poyet has been struggling badly and the performances have been shocking something really needs to be done about those upstairs.

Short, Byrne and Congerton need to go for me aswell and a massive clear out of the overpaid useless fkers on the pitch.

Vergini, brown, bridcutt, Gomez, Alvarez, Buckley, Graham, Fletcher all need to be shot of Asap. All championship players at best which next season they might be useful but I'd rather give the youth a chance than them.

The jiffle king

6,910 posts

258 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Blimey, it's all happening at Sunderland this season. I've always had great banter with Sunderland fans and hope that you recover from these troubles well. Not sure who will want to come in right now, but I hope you get someone with a little defensive nous

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Streetym89 said:
.. a massive clear out of the overpaid useless fkers on the pitch.
All hail the Sack-the-Manager Premiership! Good Luck Gus.

Overpaid... and then some. It has for sometime become completely out of control. Even the more wealthy clubs trying to buy results and paying way over the odds in failed attempts to do so. Even the very wealthy "top" clubs are guilty. The "market" has become poisonous for many less wealthy clubs.

At many clubs that is needed too. Any player being taken on by any club should have a contract drawn up in such a way that if they fail to meet certain criteria or targets, on their way without compensation. That's how I was employed and rightly so.

Agents stitch it up tightly of course and that is becoming ruinous for some clubs over paying many players who were over priced in the first place and now and never were ever worth the money paid.

Continuing under achievement by Premiership Clubs struggling and failing against foreign opposition helps get it into rather more accurate focus.

ellroy

7,027 posts

225 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Thought you lot may need cheering up.....

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headline...

Streetym89

933 posts

150 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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The biggest joke is Steven fletcher who hasn't done a thing for about 18 month is swanning about like king dick in a brand new Lamborghini aventador.

I wanted it to work for gus but players have far to much power these days and the performances have just been dreadful since Boxing Day.

BlackST

9,079 posts

165 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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What 7 goals in 2 seasons buys you

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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ellroy said:
Thought you lot may need cheering up.....

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headline...
That is genuinely funny and not without some serious merit.

Despite my London Team preferences, having worked in the region, always had a soft spot for teams from the Nor East of the country. Thin and sparse days of Joy lately though and the harsh North wind doesn't help either. Brrrrrh.

Challo

10,102 posts

155 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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MGJohn said:
Streetym89 said:
.. a massive clear out of the overpaid useless fkers on the pitch.
All hail the Sack-the-Manager Premiership! Good Luck Gus.

Overpaid... and then some. It has for sometime become completely out of control. Even the more wealthy clubs trying to buy results and paying way over the odds in failed attempts to do so. Even the very wealthy "top" clubs are guilty. The "market" has become poisonous for many less wealthy clubs.

At many clubs that is needed too. Any player being taken on by any club should have a contract drawn up in such a way that if they fail to meet certain criteria or targets, on their way without compensation. That's how I was employed and rightly so.

Agents stitch it up tightly of course and that is becoming ruinous for some clubs over paying many players who were over priced in the first place and now and never were ever worth the money paid.

Continuing under achievement by Premiership Clubs struggling and failing against foreign opposition helps get it into rather more accurate focus.
Read some rumours that there is a real issue within the club of drinking and partying before games which Di Canio tried to curb and dished out club fines which was not backed up by the Chairmen which undermines what he is trying to do.

I suspect there are some very highly paid players at that club that will not go quietly and Sunderland will struggle to shift. Its a shame as I like Sunderland but seems several years of mis-management with constant changes means a high turnover of playing staff and therefore Poyet has been left with a core of useless championship players.

As sad as it is maybe relegation might be good for the club, and force Sunderland to clear out the rubbish and take a new approach to player recruitment and change the structure within the club for the better?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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BlackST said:
What 7 goals in 2 seasons buys you
Nice McMansion. Stay classy Steve.

Streetym89

933 posts

150 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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BlackST said:
What 7 goals in 2 seasons buys you
Can't help but notice the giant dog ste in the plant pot.

Dick advocat the new manager then, average record in poor leagues just brilliant.

Cie

18,774 posts

193 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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BlackST said:
What 7 goals in 2 seasons buys you
That Aventador though. cloud9

And lol at the dog poo comment. biggrin

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Challo said:
As sad as it is maybe relegation might be good for the club, and force Sunderland to clear out the rubbish and take a new approach to player recruitment and change the structure within the club for the better?
Not unique to Sunderland. Several clubs, maybe more than we are allowed to know, are facing these problems and the answers of necessity will be harsh.

Meantime, let me be the first to get this in:~

ADVOCAT MUST GO.

Saves doing it later.

BrabusMog

20,141 posts

186 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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hornetrider said:
BlackST said:
What 7 goals in 2 seasons buys you
Nice McMansion. Stay classy Steve.
Sorry, what's wrong with it?

Streetym89

933 posts

150 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Johnsons bail extended till April 23rd. Talks of the club bringing him back to play and me personally would agree if he is in the right frame of mind.

Obviously he will get a lot of stick off fans especially in the next home game but I'm guessing the police have nothing on him if they have extended it.

RedWhiteMonkey

6,838 posts

182 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Streetym89 said:
Johnsons bail extended till April 23rd. Talks of the club bringing him back to play and me personally would agree if he is in the right frame of mind.

Obviously he will get a lot of stick off fans especially in the next home game but I'm guessing the police have nothing on him if they have extended it.
I don't know whether he did it or whether he did not do it but the police extending bail means absolutely nothing. If they had nothing on him they would drop the case not extend his bail. The fact that they haven't dropped the case is probably more telling.

Streetym89

933 posts

150 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
I don't know whether you did or whether he did not but the police extending bail means absolutely nothing. If they had nothing on him they would drop the case not extend his bail. The fact that they haven't dropped the case is probably more telling.
I didn't do anything hehe

It could go either way I suppose but imo if the club are thinking of bringing him back I don't think they would risk it if they thought he was going to be found guilty. I guess if they don't bring him back then that is very telling as I'm guessing they will be updated regularly of the situation.

RedWhiteMonkey

6,838 posts

182 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Streetym89 said:
RedWhiteMonkey said:
I don't know whether you did or whether he did not but the police extending bail means absolutely nothing. If they had nothing on him they would drop the case not extend his bail. The fact that they haven't dropped the case is probably more telling.
I didn't do anything hehe

It could go either way I suppose but imo if the club are thinking of bringing him back I don't think they would risk it if they thought he was going to be found guilty. I guess if they don't bring him back then that is very telling as I'm guessing they will be updated regularly of the situation.
Apologies, I typed too fast and got all the he and you cocked up, I thought I edited before you had chance to see.

I think it is really best not to guess or make anything of this situation.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

178 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
The fact that they haven't dropped the case is probably more telling.
Not really, some people have been kept on police bail for well over 12 months (in some cases up to 3 years) and then seen their cases dropped. Don't hang him until he's been convicted in a court of law.

RedWhiteMonkey

6,838 posts

182 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Bluebarge said:
RedWhiteMonkey said:
The fact that they haven't dropped the case is probably more telling.
Not really, some people have been kept on police bail for well over 12 months (in some cases up to 3 years) and then seen their cases dropped. Don't hang him until he's been convicted in a court of law.
I was trying to highlight the pointlessness of speculation. I guess you didn't read my subsequent post where I said

RedWhiteMonkey said:
I think it is really best not to guess or make anything of this situation.

MonkeyBusiness

3,932 posts

187 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Fairly happy with Advocaat. Has loads of experience and should at least be able to tell Short what is wrong with the club (because something/alot is wrong).

Something tells me he will do very very well (a derby win gives double points!) and will stay on.
I know nothing of his assistants.