The Official Queens Park Rangers Thread
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ascayman said:
Alfahorn said:
What utter tosh.
He certainly ain't the best but he took a Spurs side who we're flirting with relegation to the Champions League (still the only Spurs manager to do so) and got QPR back in the Premier League at the first attempt.
I'm not keen on the bloke but to liken him to cancer is a f
king disgrace.
You Spuds really do know the square root of fk all don't you!
Aren't you the the gooner that wants rid of the greatest arsenal manager of all time? There's a pot over there fella.....He certainly ain't the best but he took a Spurs side who we're flirting with relegation to the Champions League (still the only Spurs manager to do so) and got QPR back in the Premier League at the first attempt.
I'm not keen on the bloke but to liken him to cancer is a f
king disgrace.You Spuds really do know the square root of f
k all don't you! As for Harry yes he did take them up via the most one sided play final I can remember but he took them down first and was going that way this season to despite all the money he wasted.
Regarding what he 'did' at spurs judging by your vitriol I'm guessing it's going to be a waste of my time educating you.
Yes, QPR did go down, however they were f
king doomed when he arrived following the diabolical summer trolley dash that Hughes embarked on (They had 4 points IIRC). Remind you of anyone?How one sided the play off final was is irrelevant. The record books show the most important stat is that QPR won the game and the prize. The only stat that matters is the final score.
There is no doubt that the speculation surrounding Redknapp and England didn't help Spurs, he didn't help himself because he did nothing to distance himself from it either. However, I recall Spurs loved Redknapp up to that point, yet 3 months or so later he was public enemy number 1. He did a good job for Spurs that's just a fact.
I've clearly said Redknapp wasn't the best manager and certainly made mistakes a plenty but to call him a cancer is a disgrace, pure and simple.
As for my views on Wenger. Yes I am 'a' gooner who wants him out, not the only one of that there is no doubt as your choice of words implies.
My views stem from a lack of progress, years of stagnation, tactical ineptitude and poor traning methods. One the best paid managers in the world at one of the biggest clubs in the world it's reasonable to expect a little more do you not think? Especially give he's been give more than enough time in which to make progress.
Alfahorn said:
ascayman said:
Alfahorn said:
What utter tosh.
He certainly ain't the best but he took a Spurs side who we're flirting with relegation to the Champions League (still the only Spurs manager to do so) and got QPR back in the Premier League at the first attempt.
I'm not keen on the bloke but to liken him to cancer is a fking disgrace.
You Spuds really do know the square root of fk all don't you!
Aren't you the the gooner that wants rid of the greatest arsenal manager of all time? There's a pot over there fella.....He certainly ain't the best but he took a Spurs side who we're flirting with relegation to the Champions League (still the only Spurs manager to do so) and got QPR back in the Premier League at the first attempt.
I'm not keen on the bloke but to liken him to cancer is a f
king disgrace.You Spuds really do know the square root of f
k all don't you! As for Harry yes he did take them up via the most one sided play final I can remember but he took them down first and was going that way this season to despite all the money he wasted.
Regarding what he 'did' at spurs judging by your vitriol I'm guessing it's going to be a waste of my time educating you.
Yes, QPR did go down, however they were f
king doomed when he arrived following the diabolical summer trolley dash that Hughes embarked on (They had 4 points IIRC). Remind you of anyone?How one sided the play off final was is irrelevant. The record books show the most important stat is that QPR won the game and the prize. The only stat that matters is the final score.
There is no doubt that the speculation surrounding Redknapp and England didn't help Spurs, he didn't help himself because he did nothing to distance himself from it either. However, I recall Spurs loved Redknapp up to that point, yet 3 months or so later he was public enemy number 1. He did a good job for Spurs that's just a fact.
I've clearly said Redknapp wasn't the best manager and certainly made mistakes a plenty but to call him a cancer is a disgrace, pure and simple.
As for my views on Wenger. Yes I am 'a' gooner who wants him out, not the only one of that there is no doubt as your choice of words implies.
My views stem from a lack of progress, years of stagnation, tactical ineptitude and poor traning methods. One the best paid managers in the world at one of the biggest clubs in the world it's reasonable to expect a little more do you not think? Especially give he's been give more than enough time in which to make progress.
Overall Harry has been a good manager over the years especially in regards to Spurs and taking them to the Champions League. I think he did we at West Ham and also QPR. In my view things that have tarnished that slightly is his transfer policy and lack of signing for the future and very much buying for here and now. Yes that can work for you in the short term but too often especially with QPR has caused more long term damage.
What I cannot understand is why he consistently purchases/loans premiership players that are past there best, surplus to requirements at other clubs, and on high wages and feels they will do a job for him. Signings like Dyer and Jenas amaze me.
People often forget he was fans favorite to get the England managers job before Hodgson.
One thing I think is suspect is why resign the day after the transfer window?? Fair enough he needs replacement knee surgrey which is fine, but this is something he has known for months, and if he decided to resign why not do it earlier and allow caretaker manager or new manager to make his own signings??? Also why would Hoddle and Jordan also leave?? I wonder if something else will come out over time?
What I cannot understand is why he consistently purchases/loans premiership players that are past there best, surplus to requirements at other clubs, and on high wages and feels they will do a job for him. Signings like Dyer and Jenas amaze me.
People often forget he was fans favorite to get the England managers job before Hodgson.
One thing I think is suspect is why resign the day after the transfer window?? Fair enough he needs replacement knee surgrey which is fine, but this is something he has known for months, and if he decided to resign why not do it earlier and allow caretaker manager or new manager to make his own signings??? Also why would Hoddle and Jordan also leave?? I wonder if something else will come out over time?
ascayman said:
London424 said:
The reason why he's likened to cancer is he leaves clubs in an absolute mess and the only cure is to cut him and a large chunk of the club to pieces.
Mess is an understatement. bar Tottenham he's pretty much bankrupted every club he's ever managed. Challo said:
He requested the players but the Chairmen is signing the cheques....can't really put that blame on him.
What at every club..... hell of a coincidence no? at pompy he even earned commission on both the buying and selling of players! in another huge coincidence at that time they had biggest turnover of playing staff in the league...He does seem to target naïve chairman though much like any conman.
ascayman said:
Challo said:
He requested the players but the Chairmen is signing the cheques....can't really put that blame on him.
What at every club..... hell of a coincidence no? at pompy he even earned commission on both the buying and selling of players! in another huge coincidence at that time they had biggest turnover of playing staff in the league...He does seem to target naïve chairman though much like any conman.
He probably had a very large influence on it, and i did read that as well he got some commission on certain deals. With Portsmouth the owner where shocking and screwed the club, so I think they where much to blame as each other.
Can you put the blame on QPR with Redknapp on the finances? Fernandes started it with Hughes and continued spending with Redknapp but this is a guy who is a chartered accountant, and owns a very large Airline company. If Redknapp managed to hoodwink Tony into paying those wages and transfer fees then then blame has to go on Fernandes shoulders.
You can blame the transfer policy on Redknapp and the players he signed but not on the financial aspect of it.
ascayman said:
London424 said:
The reason why he's likened to cancer is he leaves clubs in an absolute mess and the only cure is to cut him and a large chunk of the club to pieces.
Mess is an understatement. bar Tottenham he's pretty much bankrupted every club he's ever managed. Which clubs has he bankrupted? I don't recall him being on the board of any of the clubs he's managed. I've certainly seen no evidence in the media to suggest this is the case. As you're so well informed I'm sure you'll be along shortly to enlighten us!
andyjo1982 said:
Do you reckon you'll get out of this FFP fine that might be heading your way?
The whole thing's nuts. How is a relegated team supposed to slash wages and expenditure instantaneously anyway? Which is what this is all about.Anyway, the FA can't back down as they've made such a song and dance about it. Pretty sure there will be some sort of compromise. Like a £20-30m fine in the end.
Which is a ballache in itself. But the real pain is the uncertainty which makes it really hard for the club to plan properly.
Not that they do plan properly, of course........
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