Scottish Football - Why?
Discussion
Mouse1903 said:
Being an Aberdeen fan I'm pleased with tonights results. Though I don't think Rangers getting beat tonight will do us any favours in Sunday when we go down to seek our first win there in 20 years :-(
I'm sure all of us Aberdeen fans will be pleased with the results!Although the results do no favour to the state of Scottish football as a whole.
standfree93 said:
I'm sure all of us Aberdeen fans will be pleased with the results!
Although the results do no favour to the state of Scottish football as a whole.
I dont know, rangers and celtic losing is pretty good for us overall, less money to spend on buying other teams players to sit on their bench...Although the results do no favour to the state of Scottish football as a whole.
Leaving hearts and united aside, the Old firm should have won last night, but its nothing to do with the state of scottish football why they lost, more the reliance on unproven managers just to pander to their fans by having "celtic minded & rangers minded" men in charge.
For those calling for change, the only way to bring about real meaningful change is to revamp the whole set up, stop running the SPL for the benefit of two teams, expand the league so we arent playing the same teams at least 4 times a season, reduce ticket prices, re-introduce safe standing areas, stop this ridiculous 12pm on a sunday kick off times just for tv, share revenue more equally and promote youth football!
chrisj_abz said:
I dont know, rangers and celtic losing is pretty good for us overall, less money to spend on buying other teams players to sit on their bench...
Leaving hearts and united aside, the Old firm should have won last night, but its nothing to do with the state of scottish football why they lost, more the reliance on unproven managers just to pander to their fans by having "celtic minded & rangers minded" men in charge.
For those calling for change, the only way to bring about real meaningful change is to revamp the whole set up, stop running the SPL for the benefit of two teams, expand the league so we arent playing the same teams at least 4 times a season LESS REVENUE, reduce ticket prices LESS REVENUE, re-introduce safe standing areas, stop this ridiculous 12pm on a sunday kick off times just for tv LESS REVENUE, share revenue more equally and promote youth football!
Leaving hearts and united aside, the Old firm should have won last night, but its nothing to do with the state of scottish football why they lost, more the reliance on unproven managers just to pander to their fans by having "celtic minded & rangers minded" men in charge.
For those calling for change, the only way to bring about real meaningful change is to revamp the whole set up, stop running the SPL for the benefit of two teams, expand the league so we arent playing the same teams at least 4 times a season LESS REVENUE, reduce ticket prices LESS REVENUE, re-introduce safe standing areas, stop this ridiculous 12pm on a sunday kick off times just for tv LESS REVENUE, share revenue more equally and promote youth football!
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ks, the OF keeps Scottish Football on the map (just).
If we let each team slip into equal mediocrity you'd soon be off supporting Man City/Man U.
We've got 2.5 leagues worth of pretty poor teams, they're not going to bring in tv money or European coverage.
Hate us as you do but the OF is more important than i think the rest of the SPL realises. It wasn't that long ago we were in European finals.
ks, the OF keeps Scottish Football on the map (just).If we let each team slip into equal mediocrity you'd soon be off supporting Man City/Man U.
We've got 2.5 leagues worth of pretty poor teams, they're not going to bring in tv money or European coverage.
Hate us as you do but the OF is more important than i think the rest of the SPL realises. It wasn't that long ago we were in European finals.
I think last light was the straw that broke the camels back and showed Scottish football for what it is. When we think of Scottish football, we thnk of only Celtic and Rangers and I think that is the problem. Fans of both of these clubs need to realsie that by being only one of two teams dominating we are slipping further and further down the pole of the best of a bad bunch.
I believe that for the good of Scottish football something drastic must be done. The gap between 2 and 3rd is huge and I dont believe is fixed by making the league any bigger. I think some sort of Draft system should come into play where each team has a limited number of foreigners allowed into the team - and must play a certain number of young scottish players. At the end of the season the cream of the crop will be moved aleswhere in the elague, give oppurtunities to develop rather than sit behind a group of over waged foreigners. Players wages will be standardised and the d"ckheads running these clubs will have to have balanced books and listen to the fans.
I would much prefer to see a larger number of young scottich footballers being given the chance in scotland and try sand improve the countrys league that way than looking at trying to follow "EPL, Championship" and be on this merrygoround of over inflated wages needed to try to get into europe to get the tv money to spend on over-inflated wages.
The teams the OF went out to were poor but I imagine next year they will improve were the OF wont improve so will be even harder to beat. No TV money means to signings and that is a good thing. Our european co-effecient will be hammered and again not being in europe and not being used as a stepping stone for others can be used as a good thing.
I am ranting now but just depressed at what Scottish football has finally become
I believe that for the good of Scottish football something drastic must be done. The gap between 2 and 3rd is huge and I dont believe is fixed by making the league any bigger. I think some sort of Draft system should come into play where each team has a limited number of foreigners allowed into the team - and must play a certain number of young scottish players. At the end of the season the cream of the crop will be moved aleswhere in the elague, give oppurtunities to develop rather than sit behind a group of over waged foreigners. Players wages will be standardised and the d"ckheads running these clubs will have to have balanced books and listen to the fans.
I would much prefer to see a larger number of young scottich footballers being given the chance in scotland and try sand improve the countrys league that way than looking at trying to follow "EPL, Championship" and be on this merrygoround of over inflated wages needed to try to get into europe to get the tv money to spend on over-inflated wages.
The teams the OF went out to were poor but I imagine next year they will improve were the OF wont improve so will be even harder to beat. No TV money means to signings and that is a good thing. Our european co-effecient will be hammered and again not being in europe and not being used as a stepping stone for others can be used as a good thing.
I am ranting now but just depressed at what Scottish football has finally become
eco21 said:
The gap between 2 and 3rd is huge and I dont believe is fixed by making the league any bigger.
I think it would make a huge difference. A 16 team league, playing each other twice.If you accept the hypothesis that Rangers and Celtic will both win all of their games against other teams, then the 3rd place team is immediately 24 points off the pace (4 games against Rangers, 4 against Celtic).
Change that to a 16 team league, playing each other twice, and the 3rd place team is only 12 points "off the pace" - far more potential for there to be an 'upset'.
The main reason other teams don't want to see this is because of the revenue generated by having potentially 4-6 home league games against the old firm each year.
Stevenj214 said:
eco21 said:
The gap between 2 and 3rd is huge and I dont believe is fixed by making the league any bigger.
I think it would make a huge difference. A 16 team league, playing each other twice.If you accept the hypothesis that Rangers and Celtic will both win all of their games against other teams, then the 3rd place team is immediately 24 points off the pace (4 games against Rangers, 4 against Celtic).
Change that to a 16 team league, playing each other twice, and the 3rd place team is only 12 points "off the pace" - far more potential for there to be an 'upset'.
The main reason other teams don't want to see this is because of the revenue generated by having potentially 4-6 home league games against the old firm each year.
And surely a more competitive league with more teams chasing 3rd (or 1st and 2nd) usually encourages more fans to come out and watch.
chrisj_abz said:
standfree93 said:
I'm sure all of us Aberdeen fans will be pleased with the results!
Although the results do no favour to the state of Scottish football as a whole.
I dont know, rangers and celtic losing is pretty good for us overall, less money to spend on buying other teams players to sit on their bench...Although the results do no favour to the state of Scottish football as a whole.
Just as long as Celtic don't continue the tradition of bringing a washed up marquee bench warmer who does f
k all a la Ljungberg, dion Dublin, Ian Wright... Stevenj214 said:
I think it would make a huge difference. A 16 team league, playing each other twice.
If you accept the hypothesis that Rangers and Celtic will both win all of their games against other teams, then the 3rd place team is immediately 24 points off the pace (4 games against Rangers, 4 against Celtic).
Change that to a 16 team league, playing each other twice, and the 3rd place team is only 12 points "off the pace" - far more potential for there to be an 'upset'.
The main reason other teams don't want to see this is because of the revenue generated by having potentially 4-6 home league games against the old firm each year.
I don't think the extra teams joining would do much in the way of tzking points of teams 3-6,8,9etcIf you accept the hypothesis that Rangers and Celtic will both win all of their games against other teams, then the 3rd place team is immediately 24 points off the pace (4 games against Rangers, 4 against Celtic).
Change that to a 16 team league, playing each other twice, and the 3rd place team is only 12 points "off the pace" - far more potential for there to be an 'upset'.
The main reason other teams don't want to see this is because of the revenue generated by having potentially 4-6 home league games against the old firm each year.
eco21 said:
I don't think the extra teams joining would do much in the way of tzking points of teams 3-6,8,9etc
In much the same way that Hibs and Hamilton didn't take many points last season. There are bottom teams in every league in the world, so why would there not be in Scotland.
Are you saying that Falkirk, Hamilton, Dundee, Raith etc couldn't give Inverness, Hibs, St Mirren, St Johnston etc a good game?
eco21 said:
I don't think the extra teams joining would do much in the way of tzking points of teams 3-6,8,9etc
I'm not sure what your point is? If it's easier for teams 3-6 to get points (fixtures against Rangers and Celtic replaced with Hamilton and Raith) then the gap will close between them and the old firm.
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