Scottish Football - Why?
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chrisj_abz said:
No money???
They may have had lots of money in the late 90s/early '00s but they are pretty skint these days. Their starting XI the other night would have cost them around 7 or 8 million - that's peanuts. Loan players, free transfers and the odd £2-3 million signing is all they can come up with now. Victor McDade said:
They may have had lots of money in the late 90s/early '00s but they are pretty skint these days. Their starting XI the other night would have cost them around 7 or 8 million - that's peanuts. Loan players, free transfers and the odd £2-3 million signing is all they can come up with now.
still a truck load more cash than anyone else in the SPL bar celtic. That they have massive debts now is down to them spending masses of money they didnt have to buy championships and screwing the well run clubs out of the chance to compete.I really hope they go bust but it'll never happen.
deevlash said:
still a truck load more cash than anyone else in the SPL bar celtic. That they have massive debts now is down to them spending masses of money they didnt have to buy championships and screwing the well run clubs out of the chance to compete.
I really hope they go bust but it'll never happen.
Craig Whyte will own Rangers before the end of March. And a new era will begin.I really hope they go bust but it'll never happen.
Rangers certainly did have money some years ago, but it wasn't spent to 'buy championships', it was spent to assemble a team which could compete with the best in Europe. It didn't succeed, but it came close, and along the way it brought players to Glasgow the likes of whom had never been seen before, ie foreigners - including Englishmen- of exceptional ability, forcing Celtic to do the same, which they did.
There really never was, nor is, anything to stop any other team doing the same. To a certain extent, it's because they aren't as well run that they aren't either capable or interested in doing it.
I don't really understand the mentality that hopes a football institution (like Rangers) goes bust, nor do I want to. But you're right, it'll never happen. If it was even approaching such a possibility the fanbase would buy the debt, and any Scottish financial institution that engineered such a scenario would be very badly advised to do so.
Rangers current debt isn't massive. In total it's considerably less than a single world class player costs these days. But Rangers need to develop a business model that allows them access to the type of funding that competes for such players, and one model involves joining the Premiership.
What a pleasure it would be to watch great players and managers working at Ibrox every second week, and I'm sure Celtic feel the same. So I'm sorry, but wishing great teams ill fortune doesn't do anything for me, or, I suspect, for the enormous majority of football lovers all across the planet.
Edited by groak on Wednesday 30th March 22:07
I just cant stand Rangers. They play at hiding sectarianism when they know fine well that it keeps them in business. They only clamped down on the bigots selling tat putside their ground when the police made them and uefa made them stop singing their vile songs. Celtic arent much better in that regard but as I had the misfortune of living near Ibrox for a few years I got sick of the Rangers fans a lot quicker.
They borrowed and spent money "for every fiver celtic spend, we'll spend a tenner" they didnt have. That in turn forced the other teams to try and compete and ruined scottish football for a generation. That we now have a new generation of talented scots players coming through when the old firm have been forced to stop pissing money away on quick fix foreigners is no coincidence.
The 2 of them need to realise they screwed scottish football with their flagrant spending and buying of success and should help to rebuild the game instead of whining that the leagues crap and wanting to go off to England every second week.
Also Rangers have some awful fans, look at what they did to Manchester and theyre constantly getting reported to Uefa for fighting. Even Celtic manage to keep that in order.
They borrowed and spent money "for every fiver celtic spend, we'll spend a tenner" they didnt have. That in turn forced the other teams to try and compete and ruined scottish football for a generation. That we now have a new generation of talented scots players coming through when the old firm have been forced to stop pissing money away on quick fix foreigners is no coincidence.
The 2 of them need to realise they screwed scottish football with their flagrant spending and buying of success and should help to rebuild the game instead of whining that the leagues crap and wanting to go off to England every second week.
Also Rangers have some awful fans, look at what they did to Manchester and theyre constantly getting reported to Uefa for fighting. Even Celtic manage to keep that in order.
Im not sure if Im for or against it as a Celtic fan. I think the old firm could do well in the EPL. There is some utter dross in the premiership. Sunderland stayed up with 37ish points. Derby got 12 or 13 points from an entire season. Even this season the top teams arent brilliant. Alot of the hype is created by Sky Sports, which they gain from tremendously. I know there is some brilliant football in the EPL, Im not denying that.
As for the distance north to south of Italy and across Russia would be a much bigger distance.
Personally I dont think it would ever happen. If it did it would need to be a great financial benifit for both the EPL and old firm.
As for the distance north to south of Italy and across Russia would be a much bigger distance.
Personally I dont think it would ever happen. If it did it would need to be a great financial benifit for both the EPL and old firm.
Celt said:
Im not sure if Im for or against it as a Celtic fan.
Come on, my bhoy! Just imagine a 12 team UKL with Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Spurs youse, us and 4 more from whoever was doing ok in England. What would a season book for THAT be like?!! With euro nights like a cherry on top! I mean, don't get me wrong, I'll be there tomorrow for St Johnstone, and it might be an ok game. But apart from the europeans' visits the only real worth in that season ticket is the Old Firm games. Am I wrong? Stevenj214 said:
robsti said:
Groan,I think there is a lot more dept than is being released to the public and that is what is stalling a deal
Rangers are publically listed. Their accounts are available for all to see.Intact the figure being talked about is £130,000,000. and that's not including any tax liability !!!
Edited by robsti on Saturday 26th February 23:22
Victor McDade said:
So who is watching the derby? Great entertainment but pretty poor football so far.
The footballs never great in an Old Firm game, Celtic make an attempt at playing proper football but just give up at revert to kicking again, Rangers just sit in from the start. It is brilliant though, up with the best derbies in the world.P.S El Hadji Diouf is a
Mark_Karting said:
The footballs never great in an Old Firm game, Celtic make an attempt at playing proper football but just give up at revert to kicking again, Rangers just sit in from the start. It is brilliant though, up with the best derbies in the world.
P.S El Hadji Diouf is a
Yeah I agree. When I was at school and watching Scottish football Rangers had the likes of Laudrup, Gazza, Van Bronckhorst,Albertz, De Boer etc and played some nice, free flowing stuff. The current brand of football they play is the polar opposite of those days.P.S El Hadji Diouf is a
Just back. Usual Old Firm crap football masses of drama. Don't think we had a single shot on goal. Early sending offs always spoil things a bit. But at least we tried tonight.
Comments above about Djouf and Lennon are just about not understanding their personalities. That's the way they are, and they wouldn't contribute as much to their teams if they weren't like that.
Got to be said, tho, that atmosphere is just unique in European football.
Comments above about Djouf and Lennon are just about not understanding their personalities. That's the way they are, and they wouldn't contribute as much to their teams if they weren't like that.
Got to be said, tho, that atmosphere is just unique in European football.
Heard about the old firms game tonight, and am pretty shocked. It's games like that that put Scottish football to shame. 
But I think we do need Celtic and Rangers in the league as it would fall apart if they were to move.
Just back from the St Johnstone - Aberdeen game, and got to say, the attendance was pretty shocking, despite it being a weekday night.
I'm an Aberdeen fan and made the journey down to Perth. The overall attendance was around 2,900. And about half of that being Aberdeen fans. Good turn out from us. And had it been a Saturday, Aberdeen were getting about 60% of the ground for their fans.
Attendances at these kind of games are terrible.
But I think we do need Celtic and Rangers in the league as it would fall apart if they were to move.
Just back from the St Johnstone - Aberdeen game, and got to say, the attendance was pretty shocking, despite it being a weekday night.
I'm an Aberdeen fan and made the journey down to Perth. The overall attendance was around 2,900. And about half of that being Aberdeen fans. Good turn out from us. And had it been a Saturday, Aberdeen were getting about 60% of the ground for their fans.
Attendances at these kind of games are terrible.
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