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Sounds like we battered them for large parts of the game, just couldn't stick it away. The previous few games have been dire though. Newcastle, Hull, Fulham, all really poor games from us, though we somehow got 4 pts out of the 2 league games.
For me, the time to sack Hughton was after the Fulham replay. Of course, we won the next game, and now with the window shut, a new manager doesn't really have a fair crack at it as he's gonna be working with someone elses players.
The board have left themselves in a very tricky position now, almost a lose/lose situation. If they don;t sack him, and we go down, they get slaughtered, if we do and they go down, they still get slaughtered. The change will have to come in the summer if it doesn't come sooner.
For me, the time to sack Hughton was after the Fulham replay. Of course, we won the next game, and now with the window shut, a new manager doesn't really have a fair crack at it as he's gonna be working with someone elses players.
The board have left themselves in a very tricky position now, almost a lose/lose situation. If they don;t sack him, and we go down, they get slaughtered, if we do and they go down, they still get slaughtered. The change will have to come in the summer if it doesn't come sooner.
andyjo1982 said:
....For me, the time to sack Hughton was after the Fulham replay.
As I alluded to on the previous page, IMO even that was too late. If we were going to do it, late Dec / early Jan would have been the time, giving the new management team the TW to bring in what they think was needed.If he goes now we are stuck with what we have which I fear is not going to be good enough.Our relative lack of activity in the TW is telling-either the board weren't prepared to let Hughton spend the money needed for genuine improvements or he honesty believes the current squad can get us out of this. This is difficult to believe as he obviously doesn't know what his best 11 is, or knows how to play a system to suit RvW's inclusion (which seems a given).
I think the 5 or 7 year plan (can't remember which it was) was set up allowing for a relegation and the board are happy to let this happen, albeit a couple of years late. Keeping the club up is going to require spending beyond the level they are prepared to accept. Financial prudence and PL football do not match, we have to face it we cannot compete with heavily backed clubs.
HyperRetard said:
3 points against Sunderland were welcome.
Get a feeling we will survive. A new manager would be welcome nevertheless.*
The old adage about needing 40 points doesn't apply this season - there are so many clubs involved in the relegation struggle that many will stay up with only 35 points or so in the bag. I agree with you about the probable safety.Get a feeling we will survive. A new manager would be welcome nevertheless.*
- Next season, not now.
Any cash available will have to be spent wisely next time - please, no more strikers who can't hit a barn door. And Ruddy needs something stronger in front of him than the present lumps of balsa wood.
Please please Delia do the honourable thing and sack him. The guy is hopeless. If you don't do it now then whatever happens and whatever league we end up in then do it at the end of the season. I can't see many fans wanting to renew their season tickets if Hughton is still in charge. I would suggest sacking him now and getting a caretaker in. One from the local primary school would do a better job. This was a game we could have won but now unless we beat Fulham which seems unlikely given this shambles and get a couple of points from our remaining games then I think the trapdoor will open and we will descend.
Beat Fulham and I think we might be safe. 36 or 37 is pretty much nailed on to be enough, so an unlikely point or two from the final 4 games would be nice.
Whatever happens I hope Hughton isn't in charge come august. It's become too difficult to watch, and the atmosphere around Carrow rd is pretty poisonous these days. Yesterday was the first time I'd actually heard wholesale "Hughton out" chants, and the fans throwing the clappers on the pitch at the end tells you all you need to know about the crowd's thoughts on the performance.
I didn't enjoy a single minute of the game yesterday, which isn't really down to the result.
Whatever happens I hope Hughton isn't in charge come august. It's become too difficult to watch, and the atmosphere around Carrow rd is pretty poisonous these days. Yesterday was the first time I'd actually heard wholesale "Hughton out" chants, and the fans throwing the clappers on the pitch at the end tells you all you need to know about the crowd's thoughts on the performance.
I didn't enjoy a single minute of the game yesterday, which isn't really down to the result.
CVM said:
With 5 games to go?!
Your club has just committed football suicide.
Brilliant!!
If it had looked like Hughton was going to keep us up then I'd agree, but it was looking increasingly likely that we were headed for the bottom 3. From that perspective I don't think his sacking increases our odds of relegation Your club has just committed football suicide.
Brilliant!!
Hughton should've gone in January. Its been an awful season, yet somehow, our own fate is in our hands still. Beat Fulham and I think we will be safe.
I really wanted it to work for Hughton, but its been wrong for a long time and we were in danger of ending up with another Roeder type situation. Adams has done a brilliant job with the youth team, and I'd expect he knows the first team pretty well too, so I think he is a decent appointment under the circumstances. Plenty of more experienced coaches will be available in the summer.
Time for everyone to get behind the team and the club and get us safe and start a fresh with a new gaffa in the summer.
I really wanted it to work for Hughton, but its been wrong for a long time and we were in danger of ending up with another Roeder type situation. Adams has done a brilliant job with the youth team, and I'd expect he knows the first team pretty well too, so I think he is a decent appointment under the circumstances. Plenty of more experienced coaches will be available in the summer.
Time for everyone to get behind the team and the club and get us safe and start a fresh with a new gaffa in the summer.
Lunacy, complete lunacy , not that he has gone (the form since our run into the top-10 last season should explain that) but the timing . Goodness knows there have been numerous opportunities in the last 15 months (after the awful run at the end of last season, 7-0 at the Etihad, the capitulations at Hull, West Ham, Southampton etc.) where the decision could / should have been made.
But no, our dithering board / CEO choose to do so at 5 games to go. A cowardly decision IMO, if we go down, aimed at deflecting all blame from them onto Hughton / Trollope and Calderwood (.....'look we made the decision the fans wanted...., Neil Adams is a great guy, he did what he could but look what at the mess he had to pick up'). A feeble decision made entirely with the one and simple hope that the 'dead cat bounce' will get us the one win in the remaining games that might just save us. A gamble that is going to make us (an even bigger...?) laughing stock if it doesn't come off.
We've stunk the PL out this season with simply awful, negative football. Combine this with how the Club have now conducted themselves, I expect many other fans would love to see us go down now.
But no, our dithering board / CEO choose to do so at 5 games to go. A cowardly decision IMO, if we go down, aimed at deflecting all blame from them onto Hughton / Trollope and Calderwood (.....'look we made the decision the fans wanted...., Neil Adams is a great guy, he did what he could but look what at the mess he had to pick up'). A feeble decision made entirely with the one and simple hope that the 'dead cat bounce' will get us the one win in the remaining games that might just save us. A gamble that is going to make us (an even bigger...?) laughing stock if it doesn't come off.
We've stunk the PL out this season with simply awful, negative football. Combine this with how the Club have now conducted themselves, I expect many other fans would love to see us go down now.
darren f said:
Lunacy, complete lunacy , not that he has gone (the form since our run into the top-10 last season should explain that) but the timing . Goodness knows there have been numerous opportunities in the last 15 months (after the awful run at the end of last season, 7-0 at the Etihad, the capitulations at Hull, West Ham, Southampton etc.) where the decision could / should have been made.
But no, our dithering board / CEO choose to do so at 5 games to go. A cowardly decision IMO, if we go down, aimed at deflecting all blame from them onto Hughton / Trollope and Calderwood (.....'look we made the decision the fans wanted...., Neil Adams is a great guy, he did what he could but look what at the mess he had to pick up'). A feeble decision made entirely with the one and simple hope that the 'dead cat bounce' will get us the one win in the remaining games that might just save us. A gamble that is going to make us (an even bigger...?) laughing stock if it doesn't come off.
We've stunk the PL out this season with simply awful, negative football. Combine this with how the Club have now conducted themselves, I expect many other fans would love to see us go down now.
My point entirely. I have (limited) sympathy for your fans. But no, our dithering board / CEO choose to do so at 5 games to go. A cowardly decision IMO, if we go down, aimed at deflecting all blame from them onto Hughton / Trollope and Calderwood (.....'look we made the decision the fans wanted...., Neil Adams is a great guy, he did what he could but look what at the mess he had to pick up'). A feeble decision made entirely with the one and simple hope that the 'dead cat bounce' will get us the one win in the remaining games that might just save us. A gamble that is going to make us (an even bigger...?) laughing stock if it doesn't come off.
We've stunk the PL out this season with simply awful, negative football. Combine this with how the Club have now conducted themselves, I expect many other fans would love to see us go down now.
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