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moanthebairns said:
any idea of the 11 that will be at Falkirk tonight, i'm contemplating going but as I understand its not a friendly as such its a bounce match almost with out reserve 11 ish. I say reserve we only have a 16 man squad really.
Yeah it is mainly our U23 lot so no established Prem starters. Botti Biabi likely in the team and if you do go look out for a very young lad called Jordan Garrick - think he will be a star.moanthebairns said:
we have a game Saturday so certainly will be our youth. If I go i'll keep an eye out.
I assume fulton, kingsley, blair and botti will be there. Might be just worth going to see how these lads have developed.
Fulton and Kingsley definitely won't be there as they are 1st team players now - they both played in the friendly against Swindon last night and Fulton got on the score sheet.I assume fulton, kingsley, blair and botti will be there. Might be just worth going to see how these lads have developed.
Kingsley will potentially be vying as our first-choice left back next season as he was in favour at the end of last season.
Tuvra said:
Despite living local, I am a Manchester United season ticket holder so I am effectively looking in from the outside....
I was amazed to hear that Swansea are on the verge of losing AW. I genuinely believe that for a team like Swansea, AW is irreplaceable and losing him puts you at risk of dropping out of the PL. IMO if you sell AW, you need to replace him with:-
king striker (or 3) 
Good news about Sigurdsson but everything else by Swansea this summer has been embarrassing, including allowing Joe Allen to join fking Stoke, with all this money sloshing around I think Swansea have to seriously consider loosening the purse strings. fk the stadium, kill the uncertainty around existing players and rebuild the squad!
13 Days, the clock is ticking.....
WRT Ashley Williams, I largely agree with you but he won't last forever and we need some succession planning. For a long time I have known they have been priming Jordi Amat to be the successor and I hope he steps up this season - his partnership with Fernandez looked good against City and West Ham at the end of last season.I was amazed to hear that Swansea are on the verge of losing AW. I genuinely believe that for a team like Swansea, AW is irreplaceable and losing him puts you at risk of dropping out of the PL. IMO if you sell AW, you need to replace him with:-
- Someone willing to come to Swansea (preferably with PL experience)
- Someone available for a fee Swansea are willing to pay (IMO that's about £15m tops)
- Someone experienced
- Someone who will want less than AW, surely wages is the only reason he wants to leave?
- Someone who can play 40-50 games a season without picking up injuries
- Someone who has the ability to quickly adapt to the PL if they are coming from abroad
king striker (or 3) Good news about Sigurdsson but everything else by Swansea this summer has been embarrassing, including allowing Joe Allen to join f
king Stoke, with all this money sloshing around I think Swansea have to seriously consider loosening the purse strings. fk the stadium, kill the uncertainty around existing players and rebuild the squad!13 Days, the clock is ticking.....
£10m for a 32 year old on the face of it is a no-brainer but as you say, AW is more than the sum of his parts.
However, I have some in the know who are led to believe his "influence" in the dressing room is not all positive.
Re Joe Allen, I totally disagree. I think he is a decent player but why the clamour for a small club like us to sign him for £15m? Plus wages over 3-4 years...when we have Jack Cork and Jay Fulton coming through it makes no sense when what we need to spend money on is goals!
I can't see the purse strings being loosened - it was never the Swansea way and now we have been bought by Yanks it is even less likely. It will be mostly cheaper up-and-coming players trying to get a platform to a bigger club in 2 years time (ala Bony).
hornetrider said:
Huw has done a good job up until now hasn't he? Is it starting to go a bit pear shaped? What's the gossip? 
Huw should be praised for what he had done up to about 3 years ago when we had the best team I have seen (and incidentally beat Valencia 3-0 in the Europa League!). We had a fantastic identity and played lovely football under Laudrup...until Jenkins refused to back Laudrup in the transfer market and instead of taking us to the next level off the back of winning the League Cup and a decent showing in the Europa League, Huw went out and single-handedly negotiated the likes of David Ngog.
Then he installs Monk which at the time was what we needed but in hindsight was the worst decision in the last 10 years (given we could have had Koeman).
What wasn't obvious from the outset was that Monk would preside over the total dismantling of the identity that had been built by Martinez, Sousa, Rodgers and Laudrup despite claiming he would always maintain the "Swansea" way.
IMO Huw took the cheap option and now the birds are coming hime to roost.
Now we have a manager with a long and successful history in the game being publicly argued with by his players, with rumours surfacing that many think he is a "joke" (this is the guy that identified and moulded Alexis Sanchez as well as many others who went on to be top players) and they can't adapt to his training methods (poor loves).
Jenkins backs his manager by selling Williams and Ayew and not replacing them with sufficient quality and now apparently the board are "not considering Guidolin's position" - a really strong positive message there!
Don't get me started on the sale to the Yanks!
The bottom line is, in the space of 3 years we have gone from a team / club that others envied in the way we could punch above our weight in style and with a strong identity...to a team that is just like any other perenial struggler.
Within that space, there is only one common link.
Adam B said:
7 league games included Chelsea, City, Liverpool, champions Leicester and Soton away, and you played very well in some of those games
only the Hull result was poor really
He acted with a lot of dignity when being pressed about his position by BBC/Sky after the game
He acted with dignity and class in everything he did while at the Swans.only the Hull result was poor really
He acted with a lot of dignity when being pressed about his position by BBC/Sky after the game
The c*nts who sit on our board wouldn't know class if it punched them in the face.
SwanJack said:
So now that the dust has settled a bit (until the Trust make their move at least), what are peoples' thoughts. Guidolin was probably our only tried and tested top flight manager, Laudrup didnt have that much experience and hasn't been ripping up trees since he left, all the others were just getting into management. BB's apointment is like Rogers' appointment in that he has got something to prove, here's hoping.
I still believe Guidolin would have kept us up but moving forward, Bradley seems to be saying all the right things (shame the owners can't follow suit!) and the training session video on the OS certainly paints him as a leader.It's not an inspiring appointment in my view and is more commercial-driven than football-driven but regardless, he gets my full support.
hornetrider said:
Ah fk me that is disappointing. Without the trust the club wouldn't exist.
Lol, now we find out the Trust is also a shambles!k me that is disappointing. Without the trust the club wouldn't exist.From another site:
"Yeah. The Trusts Supporters Director has been receiving a 40 grand wage from the club for years.
The Trust did not think that this may represent a conflict of interest.
The Trust has tried to hide this fact from their members. Or chose not to tell them. In fact they've told direct lies, as the have said for years that the SD works very hard, totally unpaid.
The Supporters Director still regularly goes out on the piss with the people who have shat all over the Trust. He's still their mate, despite feeling very upset and betrayed by their actions.
The Trust board have all disappeared from the internet apart from Uxbridge.
The Trusts Supporters Director has been using a sockpuppet on the Trust chairmans forum to defend the hard work done by the Supporters Director.
When asked about all this, the Trust refused to answer. When pressed, the Trust admitted it and now they're going to do something about it. And they're sorry they hadn't done anything until it was forced out of them. But they have been very busy. And now everythings OK because they're going to do something about it.
I think that just about covers it."
SwanJack said:
The Swansea you liked is long gone. We're down this season and the way things have panned out over the last 12 months, after yesterday's display i really dont care.
Agreed.Everyone's favorite second Premiership team is history.
Our club has gone from role-model to absolute joke in the space of 3 years.
I have fully accepted we are going down, the ride is over, it was great while it lasted (the Rodgers and Laudrup era anyway) but I wouldn't be surprised to see us plying our trade back in the lower leagues in the next 5 years.
It breaks my heart.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I don't know the ins and outs of Swansea but what's caused this? You have Rodgers, Laudrup, and Monk then seemed to panic and get rid of Monk for no obvious reason and it's all gone to st since then.
I've nothing against Bradley and Guidolin but they simply seem a pair of random names that may as well have been picked from a hat.
In my view a combination of things:t since then.I've nothing against Bradley and Guidolin but they simply seem a pair of random names that may as well have been picked from a hat.
1. Our Chairman taking a self-imposed DOF role after sacking Laudrup and effectively being in charge of player recruitment.
2. The above landing us with a large amount of dross and failure to succession plan (still relying on Leon Britton / Angel Rangel etc who need to be put out to pasture).
3. Monk, despite being a great servant and having an exceptional first year on a points basis, was slowly eroding our style of play.
But mostly the player recruitment piece - since Laudrup, incoming players have generally been worse than the player they replaced.
If Giggs has any pride he'll go nowhere near the Liberty after he failed the interview last time round and the message coming out the Boardroom was he was less than inspirational - apparently to get the job you just needed to be American and be able to deliver a good speech...
If "Mr Rodgers" would re-consider I would take him in a heartbeat.
If "Mr Rodgers" would re-consider I would take him in a heartbeat.
hornetrider said:
I hope so but I'm not so sure, he's very inexperienced in the main seat. I'd have taken Gary Rowett personally.
I take the point, but so were Martinez, Sousa and Rodgers, and Laudrup to an extent.From what I could gather Rowett's style of football was rather turgid - I think many true Swans fans simply want to see a return to good, stylish football regardless of where we are in the football league.
Funnily enough, many Derby fans complained about Clement's overly "Spanish" style of football.
I'll take any day of the week!
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