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SwanJack said:
Fantastic crowd tonight, havent experienced that for a while!! And to think Monk was willing to let Leon go at the start of the season.....
I know he wanted to try different ways of doing things at the Swans (i.e. crap football) but I wonder if he will ever accept the huge mistake he made in side-lining Britton.I just wish Leon was 25 again! What a player.
Legend83 said:
SwanJack said:
Fantastic crowd tonight, havent experienced that for a while!! And to think Monk was willing to let Leon go at the start of the season.....
I know he wanted to try different ways of doing things at the Swans (i.e. crap football) but I wonder if he will ever accept the huge mistake he made in side-lining Britton.I just wish Leon was 25 again! What a player.
So that's 4 Falkirk players now sold to Swansea... Botti Biabi, Stephen Kingsley, Jay Fulton and Ryan Blair.
Firstly anyone seen them play? If so what are they like now.
I cannot get my head around this, these players are good players....in Scotland. I've seen every game these lads have played and Id say in a few years they'd be Scottish Premier league standard or championship at best. I Just cant understand Swansea paying a fair whack to take on boys that, well, are unlikely to ever make it. Or is it just a case of get them in, take a chance, if not punt them on to a championship side for what you paid?
Firstly anyone seen them play? If so what are they like now.
I cannot get my head around this, these players are good players....in Scotland. I've seen every game these lads have played and Id say in a few years they'd be Scottish Premier league standard or championship at best. I Just cant understand Swansea paying a fair whack to take on boys that, well, are unlikely to ever make it. Or is it just a case of get them in, take a chance, if not punt them on to a championship side for what you paid?
moanthebairns said:
So that's 4 Falkirk players now sold to Swansea... Botti Biabi, Stephen Kingsley, Jay Fulton and Ryan Blair.
Firstly anyone seen them play? If so what are they like now.
I cannot get my head around this, these players are good players....in Scotland. I've seen every game these lads have played and Id say in a few years they'd be Scottish Premier league standard or championship at best. I Just cant understand Swansea paying a fair whack to take on boys that, well, are unlikely to ever make it. Or is it just a case of get them in, take a chance, if not punt them on to a championship side for what you paid?
Moan - don't get me started on Swansea City's recruitment system. I think the three stooges we have as our 'scouting' team must get a discount on Falkirk season tickets.Firstly anyone seen them play? If so what are they like now.
I cannot get my head around this, these players are good players....in Scotland. I've seen every game these lads have played and Id say in a few years they'd be Scottish Premier league standard or championship at best. I Just cant understand Swansea paying a fair whack to take on boys that, well, are unlikely to ever make it. Or is it just a case of get them in, take a chance, if not punt them on to a championship side for what you paid?
Fulton and Kingsley have been on the very peripheral of the first team - Fulton looked like he might break through but his progress stalled and then we brought Jack Cork in.
Kingsley looked decent against Oxford in the cup and I wonder if we gave him a chance like we did Ben Davies he might step up.
Biotti is languishing in the u-21s.
I can't name one player the recruitment staff have recommended that has been a success since we were in the Championship.
All our successes have been mostly manager's own contacts or where agents have touted players on us - Leadbitter our chief scout didn't want Bony! His kind of player is Leroy Lita or David Ngog.
Hopefully the Guidfather will have the final say on signing going forward and might even try and get his own scouting staff in but I doubt it at the club best known for 'jobs for the boys'.
moanthebairns said:
How did kingsley and fulton get on?
Moan - Kingsley was understandably nervous, it being his league debut at the Emirates! Plus he was up against Joel Campbell who was by far Arsenal's most dangerous player. He struggled a bit in the first 15 but came into the game as it went on....and you know what? Overall he was very very promising at this level. He is a big strong lad (think he is a CB converted to LB) and has a good turn of pace - wasn't afraid to get forward and put in a decent cross (which is more than can be said for our first choice Taylor).He also doesn't shirk - while in the wall he purposefully got his head in the way of a Sanchez free kick which diverted it onto the bar rather than the back of the net. How often do you see a footballer have a natural instinct to put his head on the line?!
I would honestly consider him to start against Norwich, although Nathan Redmond looked dangerous against Chelsea.
Fulton did what Fulton does - he was solid, worked hard, positionally was good and pressed Ozil out of the last 20 minutes. He will never be a wow player but he is tidy and decent back up as a defensive midfielder.
Legend83 said:
moanthebairns said:
How did kingsley and fulton get on?
Moan - Kingsley was understandably nervous, it being his league debut at the Emirates! Plus he was up against Joel Campbell who was by far Arsenal's most dangerous player. He struggled a bit in the first 15 but came into the game as it went on....and you know what? Overall he was very very promising at this level. He is a big strong lad (think he is a CB converted to LB) and has a good turn of pace - wasn't afraid to get forward and put in a decent cross (which is more than can be said for our first choice Taylor).He also doesn't shirk - while in the wall he purposefully got his head in the way of a Sanchez free kick which diverted it onto the bar rather than the back of the net. How often do you see a footballer have a natural instinct to put his head on the line?!
I would honestly consider him to start against Norwich, although Nathan Redmond looked dangerous against Chelsea.
Fulton did what Fulton does - he was solid, worked hard, positionally was good and pressed Ozil out of the last 20 minutes. He will never be a wow player but he is tidy and decent back up as a defensive midfielder.
moanthebairns said:
Thanks for that, I'm often amazed that players like such, who are good players don't get me wrong, can even start or play in the premier league. I've seen every game these lads have played for Falkirk, every one, and you know what, they never really stood out in the Scottish first division. No wow as you say, maybe the gap isn't that great, maybe they have came on so much more. Good to see though.
I guess if a player has potential it's more likely to manifest itself if he spends his time on the training ground / match day with top players who can impart their experience and help bring them on e.g. I know Ashley Williams plays a big part in bringing on the young defenders and was barking support to Kingsley last night. I understand Leon Britton, probably the most underated defensive midfielder in the Prem, was also tasked with mentoring Fulton and King.
That could be it, wee have a lad, Craig Sibbald, surpasses these two, 21 and played 140 games for Falkirk, but he's faded away. Technically he is far better than these two. But he just doesn't seem to progress any more playing at this level.
I wouldn't be surprised if you put a bid in for him tbh in the summer.
I wouldn't be surprised if you put a bid in for him tbh in the summer.
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