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Legend83 said:
Sigurdsson signs new 4 year deal - hopefully with the promise of some new signings!
In all seriousness, tying him down was probably more important than keeping Ayew or Ash.
Future captain IMO.
Despite living local, I am a Manchester United season ticket holder so I am effectively looking in from the outside....In all seriousness, tying him down was probably more important than keeping Ayew or Ash.
Future captain IMO.
I was amazed to hear that Swansea are on the verge of losing AW. I genuinely believe that for a team like Swansea, AW is irreplaceable and losing him puts you at risk of dropping out of the PL. IMO if you sell AW, you need to replace him with:-
- Someone willing to come to Swansea (preferably with PL experience)
- Someone available for a fee Swansea are willing to pay (IMO that's about £15m tops)
- Someone experienced
- Someone who will want less than AW, surely wages is the only reason he wants to leave?
- Someone who can play 40-50 games a season without picking up injuries
- Someone who has the ability to quickly adapt to the PL if they are coming from abroad
king striker (or 3) 
Good news about Sigurdsson but everything else by Swansea this summer has been embarrassing, including allowing Joe Allen to join f
king Stoke, with all this money sloshing around I think Swansea have to seriously consider loosening the purse strings. fk the stadium, kill the uncertainty around existing players and rebuild the squad!13 Days, the clock is ticking.....
Tuvra said:
Despite living local, I am a Manchester United season ticket holder so I am effectively looking in from the outside....
I was amazed to hear that Swansea are on the verge of losing AW. I genuinely believe that for a team like Swansea, AW is irreplaceable and losing him puts you at risk of dropping out of the PL. IMO if you sell AW, you need to replace him with:-
king striker (or 3)
Good news about Sigurdsson but everything else by Swansea this summer has been embarrassing, including allowing Joe Allen to join fking Stoke, with all this money sloshing around I think Swansea have to seriously consider loosening the purse strings. fk the stadium, kill the uncertainty around existing players and rebuild the squad!
13 Days, the clock is ticking.....
WRT Ashley Williams, I largely agree with you but he won't last forever and we need some succession planning. For a long time I have known they have been priming Jordi Amat to be the successor and I hope he steps up this season - his partnership with Fernandez looked good against City and West Ham at the end of last season.I was amazed to hear that Swansea are on the verge of losing AW. I genuinely believe that for a team like Swansea, AW is irreplaceable and losing him puts you at risk of dropping out of the PL. IMO if you sell AW, you need to replace him with:-
- Someone willing to come to Swansea (preferably with PL experience)
- Someone available for a fee Swansea are willing to pay (IMO that's about £15m tops)
- Someone experienced
- Someone who will want less than AW, surely wages is the only reason he wants to leave?
- Someone who can play 40-50 games a season without picking up injuries
- Someone who has the ability to quickly adapt to the PL if they are coming from abroad
king striker (or 3) Good news about Sigurdsson but everything else by Swansea this summer has been embarrassing, including allowing Joe Allen to join f
king Stoke, with all this money sloshing around I think Swansea have to seriously consider loosening the purse strings. fk the stadium, kill the uncertainty around existing players and rebuild the squad!13 Days, the clock is ticking.....
£10m for a 32 year old on the face of it is a no-brainer but as you say, AW is more than the sum of his parts.
However, I have some in the know who are led to believe his "influence" in the dressing room is not all positive.
Re Joe Allen, I totally disagree. I think he is a decent player but why the clamour for a small club like us to sign him for £15m? Plus wages over 3-4 years...when we have Jack Cork and Jay Fulton coming through it makes no sense when what we need to spend money on is goals!
I can't see the purse strings being loosened - it was never the Swansea way and now we have been bought by Yanks it is even less likely. It will be mostly cheaper up-and-coming players trying to get a platform to a bigger club in 2 years time (ala Bony).
In a world where Ross McCormack is valued at £15m, Watford can turn down £35m for Ighalo & Raheem Stirling moves club for £50m, I would say a £13m Joe Allen is exceptional value, especially when you consider he's home grown, on the back of a great tournament and proven in the PL. This is another one of them players who is as you said "more than the sum of his parts". I'd go as far as saying that he's better than anything you have in the middle at the moment, add in the fact that there should be no settling in issues and he should be regarded as a "marquee" signing I think Swansea have missed out on a great player, I am expecting a big season from him!
In regards to AW unsettling the dressing room, it was rumoured that Rio & Patrice did the same at United, even with our vast spending power and ability to attract top players we are still struggling to fill the hole left by Vida & Rio all them years ago. CB is one of them positions where it can be very, very difficult to find replacements, I mean look at City, they line up with £75m worth of Centre backs and they still look totally lost without a fully firing Kompany. It's all well and good saying that Amat & Fernandez are the future, but can they do it week in week out, what if one of them gets injured? What if Arsenal come sniffing for Fernandez unsettling him?
Back to the point about "value" for money and what players are worth in today's market, I think clubs should pay more attention to statistics like this:-
Therefore even a 100m Pogba doesn't look bad value
I firmly believe that club's will never get "cash rich", only the staff, players, agents etc will. I mean look at Juve, they will get 100m for Pogba but they have had to fork out 75m on Higuain. Crazy figures but its now the world we live in, burying your head in regards to the dizzying fees & wage demands isn't going to go well IMO....
To ensure a club remains competitive I feel it has to invest heavily in the best players - now more than ever before, worryingly, I think the Yanks will be more concerned with commercial deals and stadium take over / expansion plans, then by the time they realise their PL status is under threat it may be too late. The days of "established" clubs always remaining in the PL are long gone.
I love that Swansea are in the PL but having the future of your captain & best centre back up in the air and no strikers, let alone proven strikers 13 days before the season kicks off is a massive worry
In regards to AW unsettling the dressing room, it was rumoured that Rio & Patrice did the same at United, even with our vast spending power and ability to attract top players we are still struggling to fill the hole left by Vida & Rio all them years ago. CB is one of them positions where it can be very, very difficult to find replacements, I mean look at City, they line up with £75m worth of Centre backs and they still look totally lost without a fully firing Kompany. It's all well and good saying that Amat & Fernandez are the future, but can they do it week in week out, what if one of them gets injured? What if Arsenal come sniffing for Fernandez unsettling him?
Back to the point about "value" for money and what players are worth in today's market, I think clubs should pay more attention to statistics like this:-
Therefore even a 100m Pogba doesn't look bad value
I firmly believe that club's will never get "cash rich", only the staff, players, agents etc will. I mean look at Juve, they will get 100m for Pogba but they have had to fork out 75m on Higuain. Crazy figures but its now the world we live in, burying your head in regards to the dizzying fees & wage demands isn't going to go well IMO....
To ensure a club remains competitive I feel it has to invest heavily in the best players - now more than ever before, worryingly, I think the Yanks will be more concerned with commercial deals and stadium take over / expansion plans, then by the time they realise their PL status is under threat it may be too late. The days of "established" clubs always remaining in the PL are long gone.
I love that Swansea are in the PL but having the future of your captain & best centre back up in the air and no strikers, let alone proven strikers 13 days before the season kicks off is a massive worry
hornetrider said:
Huw has done a good job up until now hasn't he? Is it starting to go a bit pear shaped? What's the gossip? 
Huw should be praised for what he had done up to about 3 years ago when we had the best team I have seen (and incidentally beat Valencia 3-0 in the Europa League!). We had a fantastic identity and played lovely football under Laudrup...until Jenkins refused to back Laudrup in the transfer market and instead of taking us to the next level off the back of winning the League Cup and a decent showing in the Europa League, Huw went out and single-handedly negotiated the likes of David Ngog.
Then he installs Monk which at the time was what we needed but in hindsight was the worst decision in the last 10 years (given we could have had Koeman).
What wasn't obvious from the outset was that Monk would preside over the total dismantling of the identity that had been built by Martinez, Sousa, Rodgers and Laudrup despite claiming he would always maintain the "Swansea" way.
IMO Huw took the cheap option and now the birds are coming hime to roost.
Now we have a manager with a long and successful history in the game being publicly argued with by his players, with rumours surfacing that many think he is a "joke" (this is the guy that identified and moulded Alexis Sanchez as well as many others who went on to be top players) and they can't adapt to his training methods (poor loves).
Jenkins backs his manager by selling Williams and Ayew and not replacing them with sufficient quality and now apparently the board are "not considering Guidolin's position" - a really strong positive message there!
Don't get me started on the sale to the Yanks!
The bottom line is, in the space of 3 years we have gone from a team / club that others envied in the way we could punch above our weight in style and with a strong identity...to a team that is just like any other perenial struggler.
Within that space, there is only one common link.
Francesco Guidolin has been sacked as Swansea head coach and been replaced by former USA manager Bob Bradley.
The Swans have not won in the Premier League since the opening day of the season and are 17th in the table.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37542434
The Swans have not won in the Premier League since the opening day of the season and are 17th in the table.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37542434
Adam B said:
7 league games included Chelsea, City, Liverpool, champions Leicester and Soton away, and you played very well in some of those games
only the Hull result was poor really
He acted with a lot of dignity when being pressed about his position by BBC/Sky after the game
He acted with dignity and class in everything he did while at the Swans.only the Hull result was poor really
He acted with a lot of dignity when being pressed about his position by BBC/Sky after the game
The c*nts who sit on our board wouldn't know class if it punched them in the face.
So now that the dust has settled a bit (until the Trust make their move at least), what are peoples' thoughts. Guidolin was probably our only tried and tested top flight manager, Laudrup didnt have that much experience and hasn't been ripping up trees since he left, all the others were just getting into management. BB's apointment is like Rogers' appointment in that he has got something to prove, here's hoping.
SwanJack said:
So now that the dust has settled a bit (until the Trust make their move at least), what are peoples' thoughts. Guidolin was probably our only tried and tested top flight manager, Laudrup didnt have that much experience and hasn't been ripping up trees since he left, all the others were just getting into management. BB's apointment is like Rogers' appointment in that he has got something to prove, here's hoping.
I still believe Guidolin would have kept us up but moving forward, Bradley seems to be saying all the right things (shame the owners can't follow suit!) and the training session video on the OS certainly paints him as a leader.It's not an inspiring appointment in my view and is more commercial-driven than football-driven but regardless, he gets my full support.
Legend83 said:
I still believe Guidolin would have kept us up but moving forward, Bradley seems to be saying all the right things (shame the owners can't follow suit!) and the training session video on the OS certainly paints him as a leader.
It's not an inspiring appointment in my view and is more commercial-driven than football-driven but regardless, he gets my full support.
I enjoyed his interview immensely , i was just hoping for some 'US soccer guy" quotes though.It's not an inspiring appointment in my view and is more commercial-driven than football-driven but regardless, he gets my full support.
he spoke well & i hope he does well
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