Prodrive 3rd CAT replacement Newage

[cheesesliceking]

Hello,

Does anyone know if the Prodrive 3rd CAT replacement pipe (Newage) has a resonator box on it? Seen a few going on ebay where it has a resonator box and some dont, don't really want to get the wrong one!

for example

this one has the resinator-> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140846702071;jsessionid=...

this one doesnt -> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/03-05-Subaru-Impreza-Wrx...


ta

Edited by cheesesliceking on Friday 28th September 11:08

[ScoobieWRX]

Yours is a WRX so you have a cat (Precat) in the uppipe before the turbo, one in the downpipe (main cat), and another at the end of the downpipe (Scrubber). Then you have a long middle pipe with the resonator, and then the muffler (backbox).

It's not a case of getting the wrong one, it's about the noise that comes out the exhaust. The resonator takes the edge off the sound and smooths it off almost muffling it. If you want a nice proper burble leave it out. If you don't mind about the burble leave the resonator in to muffle the sound a bit.

Personal choice thing

ETA: The pipes you are looking at are straight cat replacements, there are no resonators in them. The resonator is normally on the long middle pipe not the scrubber replacement.

The pipe you need is the decatted stainless steel item.

Edited by ScoobieWRX on Friday 28th September 11:31

[myles1972]

Ive fitted the cat delete (after the downpipe, which causes a cat efficiency engine light, but no actual issues. I also removed the resonator, before the backbox, which releases a bit more burble.

[amccan10]

myles you need something like this to stop the light from appearing:

http://www.haywardandscott.com/accessories/cell-fi...

[cheesesliceking]

ScoobieWRX said:

Yours is a WRX so you have a cat (Precat) in the uppipe before the turbo, one in the downpipe (main cat), and another at the end of the downpipe (Scrubber). Then you have a long middle pipe with the resonator, and then the muffler (backbox).

It's not a case of getting the wrong one, it's about the noise that comes out the exhaust. The resonator takes the edge off the sound and smooths it off almost muffling it. If you want a nice proper burble leave it out. If you don't mind about the burble leave the resonator in to muffle the sound a bit.

Personal choice thing

ETA: The pipes you are looking at are straight cat replacements, there are no resonators in them. The resonator is normally on the long middle pipe not the scrubber replacement.

The pipe you need is the decatted stainless steel item.

Edited by ScoobieWRX on Friday 28th September 11:31

top stuff thanks! I think i got confused what goes where in the order of things, so many cats!

If you get a sec, which one does this one replace, is it the scrubber which if i understand it right is the rear cat?
--> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140846702071;jsessionid=...

Just bought the exact one above ( relisted) !,i thought it was the rear cat, then i saw diagram and it looked a lot like the rear section with the resinator box on.

so confused, i shouldnt be allowed on ebay alone!

thank you again!

[myles1972]

amccan10 said:

myles you need something like this to stop the light from appearing:

http://www.haywardandscott.com/accessories/cell-fi...

Thanks, I should have said I had it mapped out.

[ScoobieWRX]

cheesesliceking said:

top stuff thanks! I think i got confused what goes where in the order of things, so many cats!

If you get a sec, which one does this one replace, is it the scrubber which if i understand it right is the rear cat?
--> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140846702071;jsessionid=...

Just bought the exact one above ( relisted) !,i thought it was the rear cat, then i saw diagram and it looked a lot like the rear section with the resinator box on.

so confused, i shouldnt be allowed on ebay alone!

thank you again!

Looks like the scrubber replacement, not a great photo though.

Personally i wouldn't have gone for the PPP, a smooth straight through pipe is the way to go to promote fast and smooth gas escape, and it looks better too but each to their own.

[cheesesliceking]

Thanks budd, I get what you mean about free flowing, was only £27 though, if I had more spare cash I'd go with your idea.

[ScoobieWRX]

Fair comment!! That dreaded word...DOSH!! Do you what you can when you can

[cheesesliceking]

That's my moto mate damn kids insist on being fed and clothed

[paulmoonraker]

ScoobieWRX said:

cheesesliceking said:

top stuff thanks! I think i got confused what goes where in the order of things, so many cats!

If you get a sec, which one does this one replace, is it the scrubber which if i understand it right is the rear cat?
--> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140846702071;jsessionid=...

Just bought the exact one above ( relisted) !,i thought it was the rear cat, then i saw diagram and it looked a lot like the rear section with the resinator box on.

so confused, i shouldnt be allowed on ebay alone!

thank you again!

Looks like the scrubber replacement, not a great photo though.

Personally i wouldn't have gone for the PPP, a smooth straight through pipe is the way to go to promote fast and smooth gas escape, and it looks better too but each to their own.

The two prodrive de-cat pipes I have had did not have a resonator box on them. That one on eBay looks odd. The resonator on the Impreza is located on the long centre pipe which connects the 3rd cat (scrubber) to the backbox.

[cheesesliceking]

paulmoonraker said:

The two prodrive de-cat pipes I have had did not have a resonator box on them. That one on eBay looks odd. The resonator on the Impreza is located on the long centre pipe which connects the 3rd cat (scrubber) to the backbox.

Do you think the thing i bought could be the centre pipe that connects the scrubber CAT to the rear box then? and not the rear cat itself?

ta

[paulmoonraker]

cheesesliceking said:

paulmoonraker said:

The two prodrive de-cat pipes I have had did not have a resonator box on them. That one on eBay looks odd. The resonator on the Impreza is located on the long centre pipe which connects the 3rd cat (scrubber) to the backbox.

Do you think the thing i bought could be the centre pipe that connects the scrubber CAT to the rear box then? and not the rear cat itself?

ta

It's about 4 foot long the centre pipe. No, what you have is the 3rd cat, I just don't think its a prodrive one.

[ScoobieWRX]

paulmoonraker said:

ScoobieWRX said:

cheesesliceking said:

top stuff thanks! I think i got confused what goes where in the order of things, so many cats!

If you get a sec, which one does this one replace, is it the scrubber which if i understand it right is the rear cat?
--> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140846702071;jsessionid=...

Just bought the exact one above ( relisted) !,i thought it was the rear cat, then i saw diagram and it looked a lot like the rear section with the resinator box on.

so confused, i shouldnt be allowed on ebay alone!


thank you again!

Looks like the scrubber replacement, not a great photo though.

Personally i wouldn't have gone for the PPP, a smooth straight through pipe is the way to go to promote fast and smooth gas escape, and it looks better too but each to their own.

The two prodrive de-cat pipes I have had did not have a resonator box on them. That one on eBay looks odd. The resonator on the Impreza is located on the long centre pipe which connects the 3rd cat (scrubber) to the backbox.

That eBay pipe isn't long enough to be the long middle pipe with resonator. It looks like a short replacement for the scrubber, however, it looks like it actually has a cat on there so not sure what it's meant to be. Is it Prodrive??

[paulmoonraker]

ScoobieWRX said:

That eBay pipe isn't long enough to be the long middle pipe with resonator. It looks like a short replacement for the scrubber, however, it looks like it actually has a cat on there so not sure what it's meant to be. Is it Prodrive??

The Prodrive one has a heat shied which is bolted to a metal bit that sticks out. If you see it you'll see straight away its a heat shield and not a cat. I cant see from the photo on eBay if its the heat shield or not...

[ScoobieWRX]

I don't think it's a heat shield.

[paulmoonraker]

ScoobieWRX said:

I don't think it's a heat shield.

Nor do I. Which begs the question - is this a Prodrive bit of kit, or some other strange aftermarket cat that perhaps is used when the downpipe is de-catted?

[cheesesliceking]

Thanks for the help guys :0)

Glad someone else knows more than me!

I messaged the seller to ask if was tw third/rear CAT for sure. Response below, I don't really understand most of it! I don't want to bad mouth the guy, as he's replied etc just not sure what he's talking about!

Reply below:

"hi, this is 2nd decat, came off a wr1 which don't have up pipe cat so has resonator to keep noise down inside. Newage scoobs have up pipe cat, then downpipe cat (bolted to turbo) then 2nd cat, then centre pipe n back box. seems to be a myth around that the centre pipe is a cat but I've never seen 1 that is, there either straight pipe (sti) or resonated (wrx)"


Does that make sense?

[paulmoonraker]

cheesesliceking said:

Thanks for the help guys :0)

Glad someone else knows more than me!

I messaged the seller to ask if was tw third/rear CAT for sure. Response below, I don't really understand most of it! I don't want to bad mouth the guy, as he's replied etc just not sure what he's talking about!

Reply below:

"hi, this is 2nd decat, came off a wr1 which don't have up pipe cat so has resonator to keep noise down inside. Newage scoobs have up pipe cat, then downpipe cat (bolted to turbo) then 2nd cat, then centre pipe n back box. seems to be a myth around that the centre pipe is a cat but I've never seen 1 that is, there either straight pipe (sti) or resonated (wrx)"


Does that make sense?

Not really. The WR1 has a prodrive sports cat in the downpipe (I actually had one on my old STi). So I dont know why it would have a cat in the scrubber pipe. For sound reduction you have a resonator, but thats in the centre pipe (the long one).

FWIW - the STi has a resonator, contrary to what he says above.

[cheesesliceking]

Cheers buddy, so it seems he might not really know all about it, damn it.

One additional question if you have a sec, does it look like the original OEM standard rear CAT without its heat shield on?