Real world Impreza mpg comparisons
Discussion
GravelBen said:
I'd call 60L an average size tank myself, small would be the 45L tank on a Mk1 MX5.
I'd also call 60l average for the size of car. Skoda Octavia 60l, Vauxhall Cavalier 55l, Fiat Panda 35l, Mk2 V8 Discovery 90l.I used to get 450 miles out of my Cavalier's tank and close to 500 in the Skoda. However my bestie used to struggle to get 250 from his Disco!!!! My current Impreza does ~200 miles out the ~40l in its 50l LPG tank (LPG tanks only hold 80% of their volume.
Small would be the 45l tank in the Rover 400 series.
SonicHedgeHog said:
I've said this before and I'll say it again. If you potter around and do average cruising on the motorway you'll get an average of about 25mpg. If you regularly give it the beans you won't get near 20. Combine this with a pathetically small tank and you've got a recipe for being really pissed off - constantly reminded you're getting poor fuel economy because you're always at the fecking petrol station. Trust me I know - I bought a new 55 plate STI and got rid after 9 months.
Food for thought - the difference between 20mpg and 30mpg might not sound that much because they're both not great. However you'll spend 50% less on fuel in the 30mpg car and probably a lot less on road tax too.
You don't sound in the least bit butthurt that you couldn't afford the fuel...Food for thought - the difference between 20mpg and 30mpg might not sound that much because they're both not great. However you'll spend 50% less on fuel in the 30mpg car and probably a lot less on road tax too.
Seriously, I have no idea how you were driving but I have to be giving it some serious beans from start to finish to even dip into the teens. Normally a good tank for me is about 28-29mpg and about 23-24 when really pressing on for a journey. What makes the tank seem smaller than it actually is seems to be the very considerable reserve after the fuel light comes on; usually it's about 15 litres left when I go and stick more fuel in.
I said the mpg and petrol station visits pissed me off. If I could afford a new STI do you think I might have been able to fuel it as well?
Road Tax/VED - who cares what it's called.
LPG - the boot is compromised by the stupid hinges. Fit LPG and you'll have next to no luggage space or no spare wheel.
My light was on at 200 miles. I am not a flat out driver by any means. Approaching half empty at 100 miles is fine if you're in something special. If you're in a family saloon it just plugs you in.
That's my opinion. It's as valid as anyone else's.
Road Tax/VED - who cares what it's called.
LPG - the boot is compromised by the stupid hinges. Fit LPG and you'll have next to no luggage space or no spare wheel.
My light was on at 200 miles. I am not a flat out driver by any means. Approaching half empty at 100 miles is fine if you're in something special. If you're in a family saloon it just plugs you in.
That's my opinion. It's as valid as anyone else's.
SonicHedgeHog said:
Food for thought - the difference between 20mpg and 30mpg might not sound that much because they're both not great. However you'll spend 50% less on fuel in the 30mpg car and probably a lot less on road tax too.
Though provoking indeed. Until now, I would've thought that if I had a 20mpg car and wanted to spend 50% less on fuel I'd need to aim for something that could manage 40mpg.I have a 2006 WRX 2.5 running a little shy of 300hp. On the kind of journey you are speaking of I get between 28-32mpg if driven mostly off boost at around 65mph. If you have self control then it can be ok and as you have the 2.0na already then the difference wont be that noticable if you try to stay off boost. On the days you are planning a blast then you have the goods to do it. I tend to drive slowly and gently if i have to use the car for work and save the exciting stuff for when i really want it.
Konan said:
Though provoking indeed. Until now, I would've thought that if I had a 20mpg car and wanted to spend 50% less on fuel I'd need to aim for something that could manage 40mpg.
Oh for goodness sake. If you want to go into this level of semantics you'll have to p
s off everyone on every Internet forum. 6000 miles at 20mpg is 300 gallons. 6000 miles at 30mpg is 200 gallons. Therefore you need 50% less fuel in the 30mpg car. Clearly no one is interested in anything they don't want to hear. I'll leave you all so it.SonicHedgeHog said:
Oh for goodness sake. If you want to go into this level of semantics you'll have to ps off everyone on every Internet forum. 6000 miles at 20mpg is 300 gallons. 6000 miles at 30mpg is 200 gallons. Therefore you need 50% less fuel in the 30mpg car. Clearly no one is interested in anything they don't want to hear. I'll leave you all so it.
Sorry, i didn't mean to detract from the important message that cars with higher mpg use less fuel. Is an important message and a lot of people will benefit from having a good hard think about it.s off everyone on every Internet forum. 6000 miles at 20mpg is 300 gallons. 6000 miles at 30mpg is 200 gallons. Therefore you need 50% less fuel in the 30mpg car. Clearly no one is interested in anything they don't want to hear. I'll leave you all so it.I don't think poking fun at useless information pisses everyone off, just the sensitive souls that want to be taken seriously.
Konan said:
Sorry, i didn't mean to detract from the important message that cars with higher mpg use less fuel. Is an important message and a lot of people will benefit from having a good hard think about it.
I don't think poking fun at useless information pisses everyone off, just the sensitive souls that want to be taken seriously.
And it's just that sort of comment that illustrates why households all over this country are buried under a mountain of debt. It is a very valid observation that at first glance the difference between 20mpg and 30mpg isn't all that significant, but in reality it is. Some people struggle with numbers and really appreciate a clear explanation that may be obvious to others. But as long as you look clever who cares?I don't think poking fun at useless information pisses everyone off, just the sensitive souls that want to be taken seriously.
On my drive home yesterday after a remap I managed 30.9MPG according to my scan gauge.
As far as fuel economy goes, if you're discussing this in the context of a work car, or you need to budget, then of course it matters and it's important for the buyer to understand it........ However, I will also remind everyone that this is a Scooby topic area
Also, frequent stops at the petrol garage are great. Perfect for grabbing a Ginsters
As far as fuel economy goes, if you're discussing this in the context of a work car, or you need to budget, then of course it matters and it's important for the buyer to understand it........ However, I will also remind everyone that this is a Scooby topic area
Also, frequent stops at the petrol garage are great. Perfect for grabbing a Ginsters
SonicHedgeHog said:
And it's just that sort of comment that illustrates why households all over this country are buried under a mountain of debt. It is a very valid observation that at first glance the difference between 20mpg and 30mpg isn't all that significant, but in reality it is.
OK, well that's my fault for crediting people with more intelligence than you do. I've never run in to a car buying adult that can't work out what the consequence of buying something that does 20mpg would be. Even if they can't correctly phrase the maths behind it (for example, "However you'll spend 50% less on fuel in the 30mpg"), pretty much everyone will say "bloody hell that's thirsty" or some other generic phrase about poor fuel economy.Perhaps I'm wrong and the number of households in debt does indeed boil down to this and not the way in which the cost of borrowing is hidden away from people and the ultimate consequences of lending to those people who will never be in a position to pay back.
SonicHedgeHog said:
Some people struggle with numbers and really appreciate a clear explanation that may be obvious to others.
So I can see. My petty jibe was at the clarity of your statement 
SonicHedgeHog said:
6000 miles at 20mpg is 300 gallons. 6000 miles at 30mpg is 200 gallons. Therefore you need 50% less fuel in the 30mpg car
So the distance is 6000 miles. And I "need 50% less fuel in the 30mpg car" - I've put 300 gallons in the fuel tank of the 20mpg car and I know I need half as much in the 30mpg car. Lets fill that one up with 150 gallons and see how far it gets.200 isn't 50% less than 300.
What you mean to say, is you'll improve the distance travelled by 50%, that does NOT equate to using 50% less fuel for the same distance. You need 33% less fuel.
Call it semantics if you will. Most people will know what you're attempting to say. I'm just trying to clear it up for people you're trying to help that struggle with numbers.
Konan, you're not trying to help. What you're doing is being deliberately argumentative because you don't want a bad word said about your car. Whether it's a 33% decrease or a 50% increase doesn't matter. Finacially it amounts to the same thing. And that is that these cars are now within reach of most buyers, some if whom need to know they will get through a lot more money on petrol than their current car does. By trying to muddy the waters to make yourself look clever you're being unhelpful to all future buyers. That's pretty poor behaviour given the helpful nature of the rest of the Subaru community.
Back onto track
04 Blob WRX averaged 27mpg. Had it up to 34 on a long motorway run and down to 22.8 when playing
55 Plate Jap Import Hawk 2.0 ltr (stage 2 upgrades) averages 20 mgp. Had it up to almost 28 on a long run and down to 15 when playing
60 Plate Hawk WRX Wagon 2.5ltr PPP. avergae of 25 mpg. Haven't had it long wnough to give it long run or have fun in it, plus it's the wifes car!
04 Blob WRX averaged 27mpg. Had it up to 34 on a long motorway run and down to 22.8 when playing
55 Plate Jap Import Hawk 2.0 ltr (stage 2 upgrades) averages 20 mgp. Had it up to almost 28 on a long run and down to 15 when playing
60 Plate Hawk WRX Wagon 2.5ltr PPP. avergae of 25 mpg. Haven't had it long wnough to give it long run or have fun in it, plus it's the wifes car!
Only had my blob eye STI just over a month but so far it's doing roughly the same as my S2000 and DC5 have done in the past, around 27-28 keeping it steady. On a hoon that drops to around 22-23. Can't really complain for the performance imo. And certainly better than I expected it to be.
Got a 52 plate bugeye that I've had for nearly 3 years and 26k miles. Average is about 30mpg over that time but I can regularly get 32mpg to a tank if I'm not pushing too hard. Car has been way more economical than I expected and as fun as I'd hoped!
I haven't dropped into this section of PH for a while- PaulMoonraker- are you back in a Scoob then?
I haven't dropped into this section of PH for a while- PaulMoonraker- are you back in a Scoob then?
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