Vf28 turbo wanted

Vf28 turbo wanted

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Stephen c

Original Poster:

25 posts

117 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Need a vf28 turbo for my impreza p1 must b in excellent condition. Recommendations for reconditioning also and any idea on price for reconditioning. Cheers

Hol

8,402 posts

200 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Any stanadrd STI Version5/6 turbo will be a 28.

You dont have to hold out only for one from a P1.

Most later VF series turbos from newage cars (except twin scroll units) will bolt on and be more efficient than the 28, if you really struggle to find one.

HonestIago

1,719 posts

186 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Can anyone please explain why a VF28 might be favourable to a TD05? I have the latter on my classic.

Hol

8,402 posts

200 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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VF series is a newer design with a better centre bearing and is a less laggy than the TD series units.

With a few tweeks TD05's can produce more power than a Vf28.
Especially if you machine them to fit a TD06 20g cartridge and port the exhaust.

But, the strandard TD turbos' as fitted to Version 1/2 cars from the factory will not fit later 3 onward cars as it has a top entry cold side and not the front entry cold side that was fitted to the later cars.

With a remap, decat, fuel pressure increase and nothing else a P1_Sti5/6 will net you a genuine 320bhp.
The same car could get 20bhp more from a hybridised TD05 20G.

Edited by Hol on Thursday 5th March 13:35

HonestIago

1,719 posts

186 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Hol said:
VF series is a newer design with a better centre bearing and is a less laggy than the TD series units.

With a few tweeks TD05's can produce more power than a Vf28.
Especially if you machine them to fit a TD06 20g cartridge and port the exhaust.

But, the strandard TD turbos' as fitted to Version 1/2 cars from the factory will not fit later 3 onward cars as it has a top entry cold side and not the front entry cold side that was fitted to the later cars.

With a remap, decat, fuel pressure increase and nothing else a P1_Sti5/6 will net you a genuine 320bhp.
The same car could get 20bhp more from a hybridised TD05 20G.

Edited by Hol on Thursday 5th March 13:35
Thanks for that explanation. I've got a UK Turbo with a TD05 18G running around 300bhp, apparently the mapper held back a bit as its a 15yo 95k mile car on the original engine and gearbox.

The 18G is a bigger turbo than I would have liked but the specialist I use recommended it and in fairness it drives very nicely but it is a bit laggier than I'd have liked. I think a 2.1 stroker build would sort this nicely...when funds allow! I'd then hope for c.330bhp (still on the TMIC) but with much earlier spool and a fatter torque curve without (hopefully) breaking the box! hehe

Apologies OP for derail!

AntiLagGC8

1,724 posts

112 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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HonestIago said:
Hol said:
VF series is a newer design with a better centre bearing and is a less laggy than the TD series units.

With a few tweeks TD05's can produce more power than a Vf28.
Especially if you machine them to fit a TD06 20g cartridge and port the exhaust.

But, the strandard TD turbos' as fitted to Version 1/2 cars from the factory will not fit later 3 onward cars as it has a top entry cold side and not the front entry cold side that was fitted to the later cars.

With a remap, decat, fuel pressure increase and nothing else a P1_Sti5/6 will net you a genuine 320bhp.
The same car could get 20bhp more from a hybridised TD05 20G.

Edited by Hol on Thursday 5th March 13:35
Thanks for that explanation. I've got a UK Turbo with a TD05 18G running around 300bhp, apparently the mapper held back a bit as its a 15yo 95k mile car on the original engine and gearbox.

The 18G is a bigger turbo than I would have liked but the specialist I use recommended it and in fairness it drives very nicely but it is a bit laggier than I'd have liked. I think a 2.1 stroker build would sort this nicely...when funds allow! I'd then hope for c.330bhp (still on the TMIC) but with much earlier spool and a fatter torque curve without (hopefully) breaking the box! hehe

Apologies OP for derail!
Good choices!

I've got a forged 2.0 running a VF37 (twin scroll) and although I do love it, dependent on the requirement there can be cheaper options which can deliver either as much or more.

I liked the idea of the twin scroll for faster spool whilst still delivering a great top end but there is a lot of work required to do that. The car sounds utterly different and to call the performance great would be an understatement!

Anyway here is a useful guide on turbo's http://www.scoobynet.com/general-technical-10/9453...

Hol

8,402 posts

200 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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AntiLagGC8 said:
Good choices!

I've got a forged 2.0 running a VF37 (twin scroll) and although I do love it, dependent on the requirement there can be cheaper options which can deliver either as much or more.

I liked the idea of the twin scroll for faster spool whilst still delivering a great top end but there is a lot of work required to do that. The car sounds utterly different and to call the performance great would be an understatement!

Anyway here is a useful guide on turbo's http://www.scoobynet.com/general-technical-10/9453...
The 37 and 36 are fantastic turbos.
I owned a remapped Twinscroll car back in 2005 and it had awesome power delivery and gave 416ibs of torque.
There's a thread about it on SN, with notes and explanation by Bob Rawle.




Edited by Hol on Saturday 7th March 10:40