Not seeing many new shape '14 / '15 WRX STi's around ?

Not seeing many new shape '14 / '15 WRX STi's around ?

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tonyb1968

1,156 posts

146 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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GravelBen said:
Wasn't the BRZ/GT86 volume proportion an agreement between the manufacturers for certain markets?
Unfortunately not the UK, they over priced it compared to Toyota's GT86 and well, Toyota also gave a discount, I know which one I would buy.

GravelBen said:
As for STI vs Golf-R... similar performance, similar real fuel economy (the Golf makes big claims which nobody achieves), the Golf is more expensive and more luxurious, the Subaru is (according to every review I've read) far more fun to drive.
That means the figures Subaru must be incorrect also, at least you can run a Golf R on 95 ron without the engine imploding wink and the Golf will still give better MPG compared to the STI AND lower vehicle tax.

GravelBen said:
Your local importer might still be rubbish though!
Yup, I.M. you should really try to order parts through them, its seriously painful, hence one of the reason I moved away from Subaru, who wants to wait a couple of months for an off the shelf sensor... any other manufacturer would have one in a couple of days.

Edited by tonyb1968 on Sunday 12th July 08:18

tonyb1968

1,156 posts

146 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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KarlMac said:
I'm delighted they're selling. Fingers crossed in a few years I'll be able to pick on up.

I understand that that ths engine is no longer the EJ25, but a new stronger version, or is this another Internet myth?
Welcome to the internet biggrin

These still have the EJ25, that same crappy pile of poo that they put in the MY06 STI's onward, the FA series engines have not made it into the STI yet but they are in the WRX, we all wait to see if the 2016 car has the FA engine and then see the 2014/15 models drop drastically in price because people dont want the EJ25.

As for the rest, supply and demand, not much demand so they don't have to supply many, it keeps the price artificially high, I.M. are trying to bring back the days of the classic, when a 2 year old one went for 2 grand less than a new one, it wont work now because the cars that compete with the STI are better in pretty much every area....

MuscleSaloon

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1,552 posts

175 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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Some fair points raised I guess. Golf R just comes up time and time again when researching the WRX STi. Some prefer it, some don't, so it's not clear cut either way. As it stands a Golf R has about zero interest for me, even less for anything with an Audi badge. Perhaps its time to take a Golf R out and see how much it impresses. The well documented Subaru 2.5 engine issues are a concern, at the moment they surround the hawks and hatches but I've seen no proper evidence to support any changes for the later cars either. My nearest worthwhile dealer is a 70 mile round trip away so that's not exactly ideal. Not too concerned about economy, just when I saw an average MPG of around 27 for the STi I thought that sounded reasonable. Lack of decent deals and incentives on a new STi does not help. Dealer won't offer any discount on a car that is in stock, saying Subaru will not allow it because they don't want to devalue them. Still going to test drive one as soon as I get the time.

MuscleSaloon

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1,552 posts

175 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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Just checked on the VW website Golf R configurator - Basic Golf R is over £32k with no options whatsoever apart from metallic paint. Makes the Subaru look decent enough value at £29,495.

doug-l7fu0

15 posts

106 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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I've got one, had it 10 months. Love it. Only problem is ride is very hard for every day driver, otherwise great.
We r a family of 4 and it's a great size. I looked at Audi rs3 (10k more) Evo x ( no new ones left)
No golf for me.. Gets more attention than my 997 turbo (which I will be selling next week on here)
For a fun 4 door car which you don't see many of its great. Waited 4 months to get it.


Edited by doug-l7fu0 on Sunday 12th July 22:04

doug-l7fu0

15 posts

106 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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I've got one, had it 10 months. Love it. Only problem is ride is very hard for every day driver, otherwise great.
We r a family of 4 and it's a great size. I looked at Audi rs3 (10k more) Evo x ( no new ones left)
No golf for me.. Gets more attention than my 997 turbo (which I will be selling next week on here)
For a fun 4 door car which you don't see many of its great. Waited 4 months to get it.


Edited by doug-l7fu0 on Sunday 12th July 22:04

GravelBen

15,691 posts

230 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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tonyb1968 said:
GravelBen said:
As for STI vs Golf-R... similar performance, similar real fuel economy (the Golf makes big claims which nobody achieves), the Golf is more expensive and more luxurious, the Subaru is (according to every review I've read) far more fun to drive.
That means the figures Subaru must be incorrect also, at least you can run a Golf R on 95 ron without the engine imploding wink and the Golf will still give better MPG compared to the STI AND lower vehicle tax.
That assumption is not justified by the evidence - VW put far more effort into 'gaming' the official EU test cycle than Subaru, real world reports from owners of both are in the mid to high 20s (the Golf maybe 1-2mpg better). There are quite a few stories of the Golf R motor letting go too, and don't VW specify 98ron fuel as well? Lower tax in markets where its decided based on the EU test, yep you're right on that one.

tonyb1968 said:
Yup, I.M. you should really try to order parts through them, its seriously painful, hence one of the reason I moved away from Subaru, who wants to wait a couple of months for an off the shelf sensor... any other manufacturer would have one in a couple of days.
Fortunately I'm in a different country (NZ) where Subaru parts are easy to find and cheaper than European parts.

Edited by GravelBen on Monday 13th July 00:02

GravelBen

15,691 posts

230 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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MuscleSaloon said:
Just checked on the VW website Golf R configurator - Basic Golf R is over £32k with no options whatsoever apart from metallic paint. Makes the Subaru look decent enough value at £29,495.
I had a play with that configurator for a laugh and got it up to 44k. nerd

RB5Bird

502 posts

195 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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tonyb1968 said:
Really? Do you think so?
Where do you think all those guys who purchased STI's in the 00's went? Yup they are the "boring" ones who purchased better than what Subaru are offering
Yes, I do. Baa.

I bought mine because I like it, and I like my classic. I like it because it is different, and value for money, and not a VAG or beemer.

Each to there own. Have you driven one?

MuscleSaloon

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1,552 posts

175 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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So does anyone actually know what changes, if any, have been made to the later 2.5 engines in these? Will we ever see the 2.0 in a UK STi? I see Subaru are offering 5 year warranty in the UK but are excluding the STi which only gets 3 years.

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

163 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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MuscleSaloon said:
So does anyone actually know what changes, if any, have been made to the later 2.5 engines in these? Will we ever see the 2.0 in a UK STi? I see Subaru are offering 5 year warranty in the UK but are excluding the STi which only gets 3 years.
The main problem was the headstuds, which is an easy fix. Piston problems in the grand scheme of things was less prevalent and more of an issue for modified cars, so I doubt this was changed.

We won't really know however until one turns up at API or elsewhere for a rebuild...