Blobeye WRX Buying Advice/Facts

Blobeye WRX Buying Advice/Facts

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tonyb1968

1,156 posts

146 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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AB57 said:
Ah ok so I've just read this and it sounds like I'd be quite happy with a 05 widetrack sti. It will be highly unlikely I'll be taking it on track so it seems like the minor differences to the spooling and quicker rack will be negligible for my road use. Is there a significant difference in prices between a Jdm and UK widetrack?
Minor differences??!! Drive a JDM, you wont want to get into a laggy uk 2ltr after that and its drivability on the road where the JDM dominates, its just so much nicer to drive.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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tonyb1968 said:
Minor differences??!! Drive a JDM, you wont want to get into a laggy uk 2ltr after that and its drivability on the road where the JDM dominates, its just so much nicer to drive.
OK so I need to get a good drive in both a Jdm and UK spec sti then. When you're talking about twin-scroll is that two turbos, a bigger and smaller one?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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tonyb1968 said:
JDM's are a total different kettle of fish to UK cars, they are very different to drive compared to a UK model, engines still burble ever so slighy on idle but on throttle are more like the rally cars or a motorbike in sound. Pre 05 cars differ mechanically from post 05 cars, they changed all the geometry to that of the spec c (this includes uk sti's) but one of the buggest differences is that the engine is the bigger port version as seen in the 03/04 Spec C. These make for a great compromise rather than getting a Spec C, and as said, suspension (watch out for knocking rear struts) avoid cheap coil overs like BC's which fall apart after 6 months and are not as good as the standard suspension.
I take it the hawkeyes are significantly different to the blobeye then. From what I've read the blobeye is a more raw driving experience compared to the hawkeye. And the classics are even more raw than the blobeye.

tonyb1968

1,156 posts

146 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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Twin scroll turbos decrease turbo lag to a virtually zero, its a single turbo but brings the exhaust gasses in at 2 different times, most modern cars are now twin scroll as they also produce better torque and power delivery compared to single scroll units.
The quick rack is also very precise, going from a car without one to one with will make you appreciate how much more precise the feel and turn in is.
Honestly, the JDM wins hands down, its just a total beast driving around and just pulls from so low down in the rev range compared to even the 2.5's let alone the 2ltr uk cars.

TEKNOPUG

18,927 posts

205 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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AB57 said:
I'd be covering 15k per year with my commute consisting mostly of motorway and A roads.

I'm not after a hardcore car, I'm just after a competent fast road daily which can hold its own against most cars on the road.

I have a budget of around 5k for an initial purchase of a subaru with a 1-2k mod/refresh fund for bringing it into top condition.

I don't have to money to currently buy one or run it as a daily.

Can save £500 a month at the moment so it will take me 20 months to save up for one.

I won't be using the STi as a daily, just as a weekend car and maybe get involved in some track days.

It will be highly unlikely I'll be taking it on track so it seems like the minor differences to the spooling and quicker rack will be negligible for my road use.

If I did go for a classic I'd treat it as a weekend car.
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Maybe start a new thread once you've decided what car you want, what budget you have, whether it will be a daily or a weekend car and whether you'll track it or it will be highly unlikely..... wink









Edited by TEKNOPUG on Friday 8th July 10:33

MurderousCrow

392 posts

150 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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TEKNOPUG said:
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wobble


Maybe start a new tread once you've decided what car you want, what budget you have, whether it will be a daily or a weekend car and whether you'll track it or it will be highly unlikely..... wink
Hahahaha! Yep...

OP you do need to work out what you want. Do some test drives!

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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Hahaha apologies!

How I see it, I have a thread with all the collective information for myself and others.

I know what I want, it's a Blobeye Sti. However it's deciding between a Jdm or UK widetrack. Obviously it will involve test driving the cars until I've made my mind up.

However I'd still like some information and opinions on the the classics. I think they looked the nicest but they have severe rust issues? What would be the model to get for?

I'd have a 5k budget for a classic for weekend use.

I'd have a 10k budget for a Blobeye Sti for weekend use.

Neither cars would get tracked anytime in the near future.

Thanks again

plenty

4,680 posts

186 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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I am torn between "please do a search as these are huge and subjective questions that cannot be addressed in a single thread and there are 15 years of forum commentary out there to read", versus "it's nice to have an informative Scoob thread on PH even if it covers well-trodden ground".

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

163 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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I've owned a 2005 WRX PPP, and 2005 STi and a 2007 STI (engine rebuilt and what not). There is not much difference in running costs between the 2005 WRX and STi. However, it is worth saying that a mapped or PPP'd WRX is just as quick off the line as the STi.

The 2.5ltr engine cars are a gamble, but great if you have the funds to do the engine. The 2.0ltr is more fun compared to the 2.5ltr, but the torque available with the 2.5 is awesome.

If you buy the WRX you'll end up wanting the STi, or start spending silly money trying to make it into one.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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plenty said:
I am torn between "please do a search as these are huge and subjective questions that cannot be addressed in a single thread and there are 15 years of forum commentary out there to read", versus "it's nice to have an informative Scoob thread on PH even if it covers well-trodden ground".
I have looked elsewhere and done research. What the issue with asking more questions, if you don't want to help further then don't. It's not a problem.

It's great that everyone has been helpful and informative and I really appreciate it.

Thanks again

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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paulmoonraker said:
I've owned a 2005 WRX PPP, and 2005 STi and a 2007 STI (engine rebuilt and what not). There is not much difference in running costs between the 2005 WRX and STi. However, it is worth saying that a mapped or PPP'd WRX is just as quick off the line as the STi.

The 2.5ltr engine cars are a gamble, but great if you have the funds to do the engine. The 2.0ltr is more fun compared to the 2.5ltr, but the torque available with the 2.5 is awesome.

If you buy the WRX you'll end up wanting the STi, or start spending silly money trying to make it into one.
Thanks Paul,fun is what I'm looking for so it seems I've already got the right model to be focusing on smile Do you know why the 2.5 are such a big issue when it comes to going pop? Read it's Ringland failures which seem to be the cause. What baffles me further is that they stuck with the 2.5 engine and it still doesn't seem to be massivley reliable!?

plenty

4,680 posts

186 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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AB57 said:
plenty said:
I am torn between "please do a search as these are huge and subjective questions that cannot be addressed in a single thread and there are 15 years of forum commentary out there to read", versus "it's nice to have an informative Scoob thread on PH even if it covers well-trodden ground".
I have looked elsewhere and done research. What the issue with asking more questions, if you don't want to help further then don't. It's not a problem.

It's great that everyone has been helpful and informative and I really appreciate it.

Thanks again
I didn't say there was a problem. I did say that it's nice to have an informative conversation about Subarus on PH.

As others have pointed out, if you are genuinely wanting guidance and direction (as opposed to merely having a nice conversation about Subarus) then a little more focus to your questions would be helpful. Your original post to start this thread was actually pretty specific and you received some specific feedback. We've gone from that to "I want a Subaru. What Subaru should I buy?"

I've not having a go, but am just pointing out if it's actual answers you are looking are for then there are a lot of answers available very easily via a search. If it's meandering banter you want that's absolutely fine as well.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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plenty said:
AB57 said:
plenty said:
I am torn between "please do a search as these are huge and subjective questions that cannot be addressed in a single thread and there are 15 years of forum commentary out there to read", versus "it's nice to have an informative Scoob thread on PH even if it covers well-trodden ground".
I have looked elsewhere and done research. What the issue with asking more questions, if you don't want to help further then don't. It's not a problem.

It's great that everyone has been helpful and informative and I really appreciate it.

Thanks again
I didn't say there was a problem. I did say that it's nice to have an informative conversation about Subarus on PH.

As others have pointed out, if you are genuinely wanting guidance and direction (as opposed to merely having a nice conversation about Subarus) then a little more focus to your questions would be helpful. Your original post to start this thread was actually pretty specific and you received some specific feedback. We've gone from that to "I want a Subaru. What Subaru should I buy?"

I've not having a go, but am just pointing out if it's actual answers you are looking are for then there are a lot of answers available very easily via a search. If it's meandering banter you want that's absolutely fine as well.
Sorry for the misinterpretation, I know I've been moving around from a wrx to sti and now to a classic however I just want to explore all options. And I presume all of you actually enjoy having a discussion about it/quizzed.

I feel pretty informed on the wrx vs sti side, so much so I know I want an Sti. Which sti will involve some test drives. Like I mentioned before that the budget is quite far off as of current circumstances.

On the sti front, someone mentioned bug eyes as a cheaper option. Was there a Jdm variant for these and are they as capable as the blobeye sti widetrack? I presume not but as far as I'm aware they we the same as a Blobeye 04 minus the cosmetic differences.

As for classics, was there an Sti variant? And is this a good alternative to a Blobeye Sti?




MurderousCrow

392 posts

150 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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AB57 said:
Sorry for the misinterpretation, I know I've been moving around from a wrx to sti and now to a classic however I just want to explore all options. And I presume all of you actually enjoy having a discussion about it/quizzed.

I feel pretty informed on the wrx vs sti side, so much so I know I want an Sti. Which sti will involve some test drives. Like I mentioned before that the budget is quite far off as of current circumstances.

On the sti front, someone mentioned bug eyes as a cheaper option. Was there a Jdm variant for these and are they as capable as the blobeye sti widetrack? I presume not but as far as I'm aware they we the same as a Blobeye 04 minus the cosmetic differences.

As for classics, was there an Sti variant? And is this a good alternative to a Blobeye Sti?
I think you're trolling us here. Nicely played hehe

vxr2010

2,560 posts

159 months

Friday 8th July 2016
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The front of a bugeye and blobeye is interchange able I believe some one did it on you tube , you get the wide track in later cars and therefore the different wheel size , Jap cars are a better buy as engines are stronger and normally 2 litre lump fitted

texaxile

3,290 posts

150 months

Saturday 9th July 2016
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I've been following this thread with interest as my situation has changed recently. After selling my Hawk WRX last year and getting a 1.8 Mazda 6 as replacement (wife got company car, I got the Mazda and the WRX had to go - yeah cheers), I'm now well and truly fed up of the Mazda and seeking another Scoob.

While I enjoyed my Hawk WRX, and the 2.5 was a pleasure with plenty of torque, I just didn't "gel" with the car. I didn't go a bundle on the interior either, preferring the black cloth of the Blob WRX's or the blue of the STI.

My original plan was for a clean, standard late WRX Blob to be kept that way for my 35 mile daily commute (9k PA give or take) I only commute 4 days a week, mind, budget around 5.5k and just keep it well serviced and reliable. That was last week though, and the thought of a clean standard STI or even a JDM has entered my head along with a mid life crisis and menopause.

I would only ask if anyone knows about the Insurance position on the JDM's and whether there is much disparity between a UK and an import , for example I'm 45, Rural, Max NCB car to be kept in a garage. At my age I don't want to be paying pelicans (big bills) for insurance, my WRX stung me around £320 PA which was reasonable, but when the insurance bill starts to hit the £500 and above, I get the jitters.

MurderousCrow

392 posts

150 months

Saturday 9th July 2016
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texaxile said:
I would only ask if anyone knows about the Insurance position on the JDM's and whether there is much disparity between a UK and an import , for example I'm 45, Rural, Max NCB car to be kept in a garage. At my age I don't want to be paying pelicans (big bills) for insurance, my WRX stung me around £320 PA which was reasonable, but when the insurance bill starts to hit the £500 and above, I get the jitters.
I was saying to the OP, try A-plan Thatcham, Keith Michaels (ask for Gary), Sky and Adrian Flux. I'd think you could get quotes around your target with any of them. JDM and modified cars are their bread & butter.


vxr2010

2,560 posts

159 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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I use A plan and I pay around 400 each for three import Scoobys with mods , minus mods probably 40£ difference , which I don't think is unreasonable