If the UK had ever been nuked...

If the UK had ever been nuked...

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jurbie

2,343 posts

201 months

Saturday 26th May 2012
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RobbyJ said:
I used to work at the radio station, it was a really interesting site. It did have a protected air raid shelter under the B building but I don't think it would have done much good against a nuke!
Isn't the site listed today, I remember reading many years ago about the govt' wanting to tear it down and there was a bit of an outcry. The article also mentioned that the site didn't have an official name and was simply known as land south of Rugby. Any truth in that?

RobbyJ

1,570 posts

222 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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There's nothing secret about it now. There was to an extent until a couple of years ago. A building (featured here http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/sites/r/rugby_r... is listed I believe but I don't think B building is, and when we moved out there was talk of it being destroyed and more distribution centres built there. I've not been back for a few years now so I've no idea what's happening there today.

I always enjoyed working there but it was freezing in winter and boiling in summer, and the smoking room was one of the most vile places I've experienced!

Tango13

8,439 posts

176 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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I've got a book at home called 'Secret State' by Peter Hennersey (sp?) about the Governments plans for and attitudes to nuclear war. It's not a comprehensive view as the author states several times that certain records are still classified but it's still a good if slightly scary read.

One part that was very interesting is the fact that every new PM has to within a day or two of taking office sit down and write four identical letters, one each to the Captain of the SSBN's (might only be three as iirc one was de commisioned) The letters are sealed and delivered to the SSBN's only to opened in case of total war.

In the letter the PM has to effectivly give orders from beyond the grave telling the Captain what to do, assuming that it's all gone a bit thermo-nuclear.

When the PM leaves office he/she is handed back the letters unopened for them and them alone to destroy.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

151 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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I grew up not far from GCHQ.

I remember at school we had an exercise in Geography.

We were all given a map of the surrounding 20 miles or so.
We then had a pair of compasses and a ruler and had to draw concentric circles emanating from GCHQ showing the % chance of death.

Like, within 3 miles it’s 100% death, between 3 and 6 miles it’s 80% death, etc.

We then had to find our own house and the school and work out our % chance of getting killed at home or at school.

You don’t get school lessons like that these days (probably)

Blown2CV

28,819 posts

203 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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i presume those percentages are based on fun rather than fact?!

seany87

622 posts

170 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Im about 5 minutes away from liverpool airport, so if the sirens go off ill just head outside and take in the last few minutes of my life. If the one destined for the airport malfunctions im sure a nice fat airburst at liverpool docks and runcorn/widnes (being mainly chemical industries in the towns) means ill have little chance. Shame as I have a shotgun license and it would have been an advantage to have to ward off scavengers with.

Zaxxon

4,057 posts

160 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Nuking Scousers smile

Well that will give me sweet dreams...goodnight, and thank you.
cloud9

seany87

622 posts

170 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Yes ok, whatever floats your boat. Just imagine all of the polyester tracksuits melting. Or not.

Zaxxon

4,057 posts

160 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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seany87 said:
Yes ok, whatever floats your boat. Just imagine all of the polyester tracksuits melting. Or not.
It's a joke laaa, ay, allriiigght?


seany87

622 posts

170 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Sorry, I thought as much, just on a night shift now and very hot and bothered.

Didnt notice the smilie after your comment smile

theboyfold

10,921 posts

226 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Does anybody know of any good books based on the Manhatten Project? It's something I've been meaning to read up on after my trip to Hiroshima.

Tango13

8,439 posts

176 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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theboyfold said:
Does anybody know of any good books based on the Manhatten Project? It's something I've been meaning to read up on after my trip to Hiroshima.
Richard Rhodes wrote one I think the title is 'The Making of the Atomic Bomb' or something very similar, I'll check when I get home and post the ISBN.

Be warned though, it is very, very detailed! It delves into the history of nuclear fission, the politcs, the espionage, everything!

Snowboy

8,028 posts

151 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Blown2CV said:
i presume those percentages are based on fun rather than fact?!
Back in school they were real percentages based on one warhead hitting GCHQ.
What I wrote on my post is just an example as I can’t remember the real numbers.

I do recall that at the end of the exercise we were told that in reality there would be more than one warhead landing on GCHQ.

It was a very odd and dark lesson.

RobbyJ

1,570 posts

222 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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tank slapper

7,949 posts

283 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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RobbyJ said:
Here are a few videos from some of my nerdy bunker visits:

http://youtu.be/wLiVfyXwNMQ
My grandmother worked in that operations room during the war.

Tango13

8,439 posts

176 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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Tango13 said:
theboyfold said:
Does anybody know of any good books based on the Manhatten Project? It's something I've been meaning to read up on after my trip to Hiroshima.
Richard Rhodes wrote one I think the title is 'The Making of the Atomic Bomb' or something very similar, I'll check when I get home and post the ISBN.

Be warned though, it is very, very detailed! It delves into the history of nuclear fission, the politcs, the espionage, everything!
ISBN 0-684-81378-5

theboyfold

10,921 posts

226 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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Tango13 said:
ISBN 0-684-81378-5
Thanks I'll look it up.

NightRunner

12,230 posts

194 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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A note on 'Threads' - they showed that to us in Junior school one day, fk knows why.

We were in Sheffield, it's one easy way to scare the st out of a room full of kids!

We'd have left in a better mood if they'd let Ian Huntley loose on us!

otolith

56,144 posts

204 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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NightRunner said:
A note on 'Threads' - they showed that to us in Junior school one day, fk knows why.
Because all teachers were CND members wink

Vieste

10,532 posts

160 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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Good tv programme on sky Discovery 520 tonight 9pm

1983 The brink of Apocalypse