Revelations of the Pyramids

Revelations of the Pyramids

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jmorgan

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285 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
Also Nice to see people who propose to be members of the scientific community commenting and judging without looking at the subject context. smile .

The video explains far better than I ever could.
Then you can tell us what it says. Seriously, my mac is 2004 vintage and videos are a bit wonky. Shirley you can precis it? Break it down. Does it say men built it?

Westy Pre-Lit

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204 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Am working at the moment sorry. No it doesn't propose aliens or whoever built it. You are left to make your own conclusions.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Well, from what I watched of it this morning, it seems to say how impossible it was, which automatically makes it ridiculous, as we know it is possible. it is amazed at how the pyramids are aligned to the north, and it is amazed at how they cut them with a round stone ball, and a bit of copper.

Interestingly, the hyroglyphics that have been shown on previous threads as a helicopter, one of the thunderbirds, and Luke's hover thingy, are laughed away as simply overlapping symbols.

Basically, the premise of the show, from what I saw, was essentially;

"We don't know how they did it, therefore something odd happened".

I got bored, to be honest.

jmorgan

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285 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
Am working at the moment sorry. No it doesn't propose aliens or whoever built it. You are left to make your own conclusions.
OK, I conclude men built it and it looked good.

TheHeretic

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
Am working at the moment sorry. No it doesn't propose aliens or whoever built it. You are left to make your own conclusions.
So it could simply have said

"We don't know. Impressive isn't it?"

And been done with it in about 5 minutes.

Westy Pre-Lit

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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jmorgan said:
OK, I conclude men built it and it looked good.
A very scientific analysis that hehe:

TheHeretic

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
A vey scientific analysis that hehe:
You conclude differently?

Westy Pre-Lit

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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I'm open to possibilities.

TheHeretic

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
I'm open to possibilities.
Stop dancing. Do you think aliens did OT, or at least helped? If so, can you explain why?

jmorgan

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285 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
jmorgan said:
OK, I conclude men built it and it looked good.
A very scientific analysis that hehe:
PHD material here. I should be running the UK acedemic rezources.

Westy Pre-Lit

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Will try explaining my thoughts later when more time.

Eric Mc

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266 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Westy has a prediliction for the more extraordinary explanations for things that have pretty ordinary explanations.

That's why I don't rate this as a thread worthy of a "science" forum.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Einion Yrth

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245 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
Will try explaining my thoughts later when more time.
Breath suitably bated.

Westy Pre-Lit

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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biggrin

Einion Yrth

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
Actually I'm not entirely sure they do, but they certainly need more than the usual woo handwaving.

hairykrishna

13,169 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
1.18.18 - "Take this figure to a physicist......." hehe
Intrigued by this and now that's five minutes of my life wasted.

From doc - draw a circle inside the base, draw one outside. Subtract circumference of inner from outer. Show to physicist - "that's the speed of light!"

Each side originally 440 royal cubits (230.4m) – figure from wiki because it’s easiest. So inside circle is 723.8m circumference. Outside circle is 325.8m diameter from Pythagoras so 1023.5m circumference. Outside-inside is 299.7

In the documentary this is claimed to encode the speed of light. Speed of light in vacuum is 2.9979e8 m/s. So it equals the first 4 digits, ignoring rounding. Wow, spectacular isn’t it?
Frankly no. Use enough calculations and look at enough constants and near-ish coincidences like this are commonplace. Particularly if you have a fairly generous error margin on the size of a cubit in meters.

Anyone who thinks that this means that the Egyptians knew the speed of light is mental. Needless to say I won't bother with the rest of the documentary.

TheHeretic

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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I also like "assertions without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"

Einion Yrth

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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hairykrishna said:
Anyone who thinks that this means that the Egyptians knew the speed of light is mental.
Even if they did, wouldn't they have just written it down somewhere rather than encoding it in some daft architectural numerology? Plus why encode a value in m/s in cubits? Who foresaw that the meter would even be defined?

jmorgan

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285 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Westy has a prediliction for the more extraordinary explanations for things that have pretty ordinary explanations.

That's why I don't rate this as a thread worthy of a "science" forum.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
Well, if he has evidence then I expect it to be put forward. This is evidence being put forward and this is evidence getting shot down. Either way if this was a real bit of research and taken seriously I would expect to see it published and tested. Lurking on youtube should be a hint that its cobblers but there we are.

hairykrishna

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Einion Yrth said:
hairykrishna said:
Anyone who thinks that this means that the Egyptians knew the speed of light is mental.
Even if they did, wouldn't they have just written it down somewhere rather than encoding it in some daft architectural numerology? Plus why encode a value in m/s in cubits? Who foresaw that the meter would even be defined?
It would be easy to claim it works with cubits too. Comes out at ~570 if you do the subtraction; speed of light in cubits is anywhere between 5.66 - 5.77e8, depending on what value you use for a cubit, so you could certainly get 3 or 4 figures to match with sufficient fiddling. It's just the same as all other numerology bks.