Peruvian rock cutting juice
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
So let me get this straight. 
We can put man on the moon, we can put a rover on mars, we can put man on the bottom of the oceans, we can look into the furthest reaches of space, we can communicate with people on the other side of the world with tiny hand-held devices. That's not to even mention many thousands of other things that would have been unimaginable a just a hundred years ago.....hell we can all blow ourselves up to kingdom come if we really wanted to at the touch of a button.
Yet you're expecting me to believe we have lost a certain art of whacking a stone with a stone....seriously?
Yes!We can put man on the moon, we can put a rover on mars, we can put man on the bottom of the oceans, we can look into the furthest reaches of space, we can communicate with people on the other side of the world with tiny hand-held devices. That's not to even mention many thousands of other things that would have been unimaginable a just a hundred years ago.....hell we can all blow ourselves up to kingdom come if we really wanted to at the touch of a button.
Yet you're expecting me to believe we have lost a certain art of whacking a stone with a stone....seriously?
How many stone masons are there left compared to two hundred years ago? Or four hundred years?
When skills are little used for so long they certainly do die out as do the people who still have the ability to teach those skills, soon enough the knowledge is lost and may never be found again.
Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it not so.
I work at a brickmaking museum, you'll be amazed at how much we don't know about a process that was still happening only forty years ago! The ways change and the number of people who learnt the old ways diminish and as they are not using them any more only the new ways get passed on. It takes ages to figure out how machinery worked once it's all in bits and nobody knows how it all went together!
Westy Pre-Lit said:
I finally see why the old man gave up bothering trying to explain to people years ago that this 'lost art' belief of the most basic of basic things, is all b
ks.....sighs.
So rather than address any of the points raised you just sigh.ks.....sighs.Awwwww I feel so sorry for you, it must be difficult having all the knowledge but nobody to listen.
So go ahead, spill the beans how was it all done?
No all you can do is dismiss everything else people say because your Dad says so.
Westy, yes firstly for values of 1> than 1.4 
but seriously skills get lost go back 3 centuries and you would meet lots of thatchers, Fletchers bow makers and archers all of whom probably had their own short cuts to get a job done.
It happens in companies even now, lets imagine a department with 3 people in it one who has done the job for years the others are new, the old hand probably only passes on 80% of their skills and knowledge because some of it is blindingly obvious to them or they do it sub consiously almost as a conditioned response to a problem. When the oldest employee leaves then suddenly you find all that knowledge is lost and has to be re-discovered, now if one of the old staff members skills related to an obsolete system then it won't get re-discovered because there is no need to.
but seriously skills get lost go back 3 centuries and you would meet lots of thatchers, Fletchers bow makers and archers all of whom probably had their own short cuts to get a job done. It happens in companies even now, lets imagine a department with 3 people in it one who has done the job for years the others are new, the old hand probably only passes on 80% of their skills and knowledge because some of it is blindingly obvious to them or they do it sub consiously almost as a conditioned response to a problem. When the oldest employee leaves then suddenly you find all that knowledge is lost and has to be re-discovered, now if one of the old staff members skills related to an obsolete system then it won't get re-discovered because there is no need to.
Westy Pre-Lit said:
Rather than try to catch me out, read again what I just said and think about what you have just asked me to do.
Can you make 1+1=3 ?
I'm not trying to catch you out.Can you make 1+1=3 ?
So considering that you don't believe that technology or skills are capable of being lost or forgotten. How do you think it was done, go on tell us.
Do you think that the skills are remembered yet somehow not practised?
Or do you think things not from this world did it and left taking their technology with them?
Rather than throw smileys around try to actually explain what is in your head.
Lost art (maybe) of making glass (from Roman times 'though)
http://master-mc.u-strasbg.fr/IMG/pdf/lycurgus.pdf
Seems it took quite a bit to fathom what had been done (even now, don't think they know how it was done!)
http://master-mc.u-strasbg.fr/IMG/pdf/lycurgus.pdf
Seems it took quite a bit to fathom what had been done (even now, don't think they know how it was done!)
Ali G said:
Lost art (maybe) of making glass (from Roman times 'though)
http://master-mc.u-strasbg.fr/IMG/pdf/lycurgus.pdf
Seems it took quite a bit to fathom what had been done (even now, don't think they know how it was done!)
<They are among the most technically sophisticated glasshttp://master-mc.u-strasbg.fr/IMG/pdf/lycurgus.pdf
Seems it took quite a bit to fathom what had been done (even now, don't think they know how it was done!)
objects produced before the modern era.>
Cut & pasted from the link.
Ali G said:
Ayahuasca said:
Nobody today knows how to read the written language of the Incas.
I did not know that the Incas had written language - I thought that they had some system of knots and coloured rope!Hey ho - live and learn!
Ayahuasca said:
Nobody today knows how the ancient Greeks made 'Greek Fire'.
Nobody today knows how the ancient Central Americans made crystal skulls.
Nobody today knows how to read the written language of the Incas.
Just saying.
But we only know Egyptian hieroglyphics from the Rosetta Stone. It doesn't mean the Incas were particuarly clever, it just means we can't read their language.Nobody today knows how the ancient Central Americans made crystal skulls.
Nobody today knows how to read the written language of the Incas.
Just saying.
Had they been as clever as us, then their civilisation would still be around so they could tell us... And yet we imply how clever they were because they are extinct!
There aren't many Romans about these days, but we know they were clever with advanced engineering skills. Their language still exists and so do artefacts and buildings they constructed and documents they wrote to tell us. The Roman people didn't become extinct, their civilisation did. It doesn't mean they were any less capable, just that their skills and practices fell out of use. Something similar could easily have happened in South America.
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