Peruvian rock cutting juice
Discussion
freecar said:
I'm not trying to catch you out.
So considering that you don't believe that technology or skills are capable of being lost or forgotten. How do you think it was done, go on tell us.
Do you think that the skills are remembered yet somehow not practised?
Or do you think things not from this world did it and left taking their technology with them?
Rather than throw smileys around try to actually explain what is in your head.
Sorry I totally forgot to reply to your question.So considering that you don't believe that technology or skills are capable of being lost or forgotten. How do you think it was done, go on tell us.
Do you think that the skills are remembered yet somehow not practised?
Or do you think things not from this world did it and left taking their technology with them?
Rather than throw smileys around try to actually explain what is in your head.
I have said on numerous occasions that I believe we are yet to find the tools to produce this kind of work which includes unknown technologies if you like. Sorry but no, I do not agree that hand bashing a stone is a lost skill or art yet, that concept is a whole different thing entirely.
Here's a well put together video which has been recently translated from Russian. It's about a group of people who have actually bothered to carry out in-depth surveys and are able to understand what it takes to produce the finishes and understand the marks left in a worked piece. This group includes scientists, mathematicians, physicists and historians etc, idiots who haven't a clue what their talking about
http://www.firstpost.com/topic/place/peru-advanced...
As I understand it there will hopefully more translated videos to follow which should include work analysed under electron microscopes etc.
jmorgan said:
I did start to listen to it but forty minutes?
Can I guess the outcome? No know tools could have cut it equals aliens though not mentioned directly?
More or less. I watched it through and found it quite fascinating. Some of the "cuts" for example an interior cube, really would challenge any existing masonry technology. I'm a fitter/turner by trade, I'd struggle with a miller lathe or grinder to do that - in fact I could't. Can I guess the outcome? No know tools could have cut it equals aliens though not mentioned directly?
I just hope that one day we find out how it was done.
Hiya Dicky, hows it hanging?
Part of the problem though is not that we have lost the know how, it the loss being painted as we never had it and external "influences" must have been responsible. Same cropped up in a rock cutting episode in another thread, a fella had done some "research" based on him working in a quarry and saying it was impossible and then another fella did some real research and published it and found out that certain cuts could indeed be made, this included cuts in granite I believe. So on the whole it seems more like man now used matches but ask man to make fire with sticks like his ancestors and he is stumped.
Part of the problem though is not that we have lost the know how, it the loss being painted as we never had it and external "influences" must have been responsible. Same cropped up in a rock cutting episode in another thread, a fella had done some "research" based on him working in a quarry and saying it was impossible and then another fella did some real research and published it and found out that certain cuts could indeed be made, this included cuts in granite I believe. So on the whole it seems more like man now used matches but ask man to make fire with sticks like his ancestors and he is stumped.
jmorgan said:
Hiya Dicky, hows it hanging?
Part of the problem though is not that we have lost the know how, it the loss being painted as we never had it and external "influences" must have been responsible. Same cropped up in a rock cutting episode in another thread, a fella had done some "research" based on him working in a quarry and saying it was impossible and then another fella did some real research and published it and found out that certain cuts could indeed be made, this included cuts in granite I believe. So on the whole it seems more like man now used matches but ask man to make fire with sticks like his ancestors and he is stumped.
This, it's hubris in the extreme to think that because we struggle to figure out how it was done, it must be impossible,Part of the problem though is not that we have lost the know how, it the loss being painted as we never had it and external "influences" must have been responsible. Same cropped up in a rock cutting episode in another thread, a fella had done some "research" based on him working in a quarry and saying it was impossible and then another fella did some real research and published it and found out that certain cuts could indeed be made, this included cuts in granite I believe. So on the whole it seems more like man now used matches but ask man to make fire with sticks like his ancestors and he is stumped.
Get over yourselves, people were better at things then, than you are now, we are not the pinnacle of civilisation just because we're alive.
Maybe ock cutting juice helped in the construction of Göbekli Tepe
http://dailygrail.com/Hidden-History/2013/2/Graham...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe#Int...
http://dailygrail.com/Hidden-History/2013/2/Graham...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe#Int...
Westy Pre-Lit said:
That is a really interesting vid, also if you go to the youtube page, the poster goes into a lot of interesting areas in the comments section. I do wonder what would be left of our civilization after a few tens of thousands of years of iceage rubbed it out.XM5ER said:
That is a really interesting vid, also if you go to the youtube page, the poster goes into a lot of interesting areas in the comments section. I do wonder what would be left of our civilization after a few tens of thousands of years of iceage rubbed it out.
There was a brilliant programme on years ago, detailing what would happen if humans disappeared overnight.The only sign that would be left after 10,000 years would be Hoover dam.
The work of the fella I mentioned above makes for very interesting reading. He splits the megaliths that are attributed to the Incas over three distinct and separate periods. Orthodox history says the Inca built them all, but there is (in the fella's view...and mine) reasons why one can see they are built by people a long time apart.
There is some sort of vitrification going on, on the older stones, and they seem moulded, very interesting stuff.
Halb said:
Westy, have you read the stuff of Jesús Gamarra?
Yes, some of the videos he makes as well give you a really good picture of what is going on. Even so he does at times say things that are pushing the boundaries when you know what you're looking at. I've shown my dad some of his stuff and he has at times laughed at what is being claimed, other times I've had him siting amazed at what is being shown. Funnily enough its the more simple nondescript things, that many wouldn't notice, that tend to stand out.
After listening to a bit of Joe Rogan podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDejwCGdUV8
I found this.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-319...
Hadn't heard of it before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDejwCGdUV8
I found this.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-319...
Hadn't heard of it before.
Westy Pre-Lit said:
Here is an interesting documentary that shows how they believe it was done.
http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/31421/Secrets...
http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/31422/Secrets...
http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/31891/Secrets...
http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/32306/Secrets...
http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/32308/Secrets...
http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/32687/Secrets...
Anybody who works with stone will know and understand this but don't let that get in the way of wiping you hands and saying everything is proven.
The effort taken to move a 1 ton block is quite comical
I came across this thread and found the linked documentary very interesting. http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/31421/Secrets...
http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/31422/Secrets...
http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/31891/Secrets...
http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/32306/Secrets...
http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/32308/Secrets...
http://www.videopediaworld.com/video/32687/Secrets...
Anybody who works with stone will know and understand this but don't let that get in the way of wiping you hands and saying everything is proven.
The effort taken to move a 1 ton block is quite comical
I know the post is from a while ago, but just wanted to say thanks for posting it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H5LCLljJho
Nice update on this stufff.
small update on Gobekli tepe and other stuff,.
this is also mentioned.
http://www.livescience.com/51848-monolith-sicilian...
Nice update on this stufff.
small update on Gobekli tepe and other stuff,.
this is also mentioned.
http://www.livescience.com/51848-monolith-sicilian...
Just read 'expedition fawcett' about colonel fawcett's explorations in south america and he mentions being told about the rock melting juice. Apparently a plant with purple leaves. Story about some graverobbers finding a pot of it and trying to make a native drink it. But he was sceptical as someone else reported seeing Inca quarries with rocks in all stages of preparation, by normal tools.
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