Explain Water divining

[thinfourth2]

Water Divining

Proven many many times under test conditions not to work

However it doesn't change the apparent fact that an old bricky that works for my father can turn up at a site wander around with a stick and find where the drains run.


So what is going on with the old bricky and his stick

Discuss

[perdu]

Is he so old that he can remember where he and his gaffer put them last time round?



But Horatio, there are stranger things...


(I suspect there really is something in it, long time ago I knew a bloke...)

[0a]

thinfourth2 said:

Water Divining

Proven many many times under test conditions not to work

However it doesn't change the apparent fact that an old bricky that works for my father can turn up at a site wander around with a stick and find where the drains run.


So what is going on with the old bricky and his stick

Discuss

There are patterns to where drains are put that he's using

[jbudgie]

I remember when I was a young lad (50+ years ago now)--i was at my grandads and a chap came round with a 'y' shaped piece of stick (hazel i think) and said it would twitch in your hand when you walked over a spot that had water beneath.

He gave it to me and i tried it and could feel it twisting in my hands over certain places.

I am not a believer in this type of stuff normally, but i know i could feel it moving.

Definitely weird.

[blueg33]

I dont believe in this stuff either, but diving water works for me with metal rods (TBH i was totally surprised the first time). Brother used to work for Servern Trent Water and they used divining fair bit.

[Hoofy]

All the witches come out now. Burn them!

[Simpo Two]

We did it at school with dowsing rods (two L-shaped pieces of wire in biro cases).

It works - walk over a sewer and they cross.

Heard one theory that something involuntarily affected your arm muscles... but it does work.

[blueg33]

Simpo Two said:

We did it at school with dowsing rods (two L-shaped pieces of wire in biro cases).

It works - walk over a sewer and they cross.

Heard one theory that something involuntarily affected your arm muscles... but it does work.

Thats exactly how i do it

[Eric Mc]

It's not science - so shouldn't be here.

[Getragdogleg]

Eric Mc said:

It's not science - so shouldn't be here.

Has it been proven to not be science though ?

I saw it in action on my own land when we were trying to find a water pipe, I had a go and it worked to a surprising accuracy, we dug down and the pipe was where we divined it to be, not only that but we worked out it had a slant to it at around 30 degrees across the land and when we dug down this was also proven to be accurate.

I did not even know there was a pipe there but suspected we had a pipe somewhere on the land as we could see down the manhole cover in the road and realise one of the outlets went off in our direction.

I have no idea how it worked or why, can we just discuss it anyway ?

[perdu]

As it works, 'cos it does!

Why can we not assume that "one day" the scientific reason why will be determined?

And discuss it here Eric?

Who knows there may be a breakthrough as we chat…

[tank slapper]

It's cobblers. It's never been shown to work in proper trials, and there is always some excuse given when it fails.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VAasVXtCOI

[TheHeretic]

It doesn't work.

HTH.

[Westy Pre-Lit]

Getragdogleg says it does.

There's only one way to find out.....

[Ali G]

tank slapper said:

It's cobblers. It's never been shown to work in proper trials, and there is always some excuse given when it fails.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VAasVXtCOI

Maybe the trials themselves prevent the study from working.

For instance, we all know that going to the doctor puts your blood pressure up, thereby invalidating the exercise!

If it does work, then it must be a subconscious reflex to some form of stimulus which may well be overridden by the conscious mind.

I've got an open mind on 'divining' myself - seem to remember that can also seem to work on electricity cables.

I am not convinced that this is all quackery!

[TheHeretic]

What? Do another double blind test that have been done countless times before, that indicate that it does nothing, and results are at best equal to chance?

[Ali G]

TheHeretic said:

What? Do another double blind test that have been done countless times before, that indicate that it does nothing, and results are at best equal to chance?

I am keeping an open mind on this one!

All I would say, is that putting subjects under test conditions may affect the outcomes - particularly when subconscious effects are to be observed (i.e. subject must be totally relaxed and in their environment)

[jbudgie]

jbudgie said:

I remember when I was a young lad (50+ years ago now)--i was at my grandads and a chap came round with a 'y' shaped piece of stick (hazel i think) and said it would twitch in your hand when you walked over a spot that had water beneath.

He gave it to me and i tried it and could feel it twisting in my hands over certain places.

I am not a believer in this type of stuff normally, but i know i could feel it moving.

Definitely weird.

As I said in this previous post --I was only a young lad --and I could definitely feel the branch twisting in my hands.

[tank slapper]

Ali G said:

All I would say, is that putting subjects under test conditions may affect the outcomes - particularly when subconscious effects are to be observed (i.e. subject must be totally relaxed and in their environment)

So how come not even one person has been able to reliably do it under test? Are you suggesting that every single person who is a diviner is so weak minded and pathetic that they are unable to do it when someone is watching? You are clutching at straws with that one I think.

If this were a real effect, then there would be at least one individual who is able to do it under test conditions. In that video clip I posted, the diviners were all quite happy and confident undertaking the test, and it was only when they were shown to be no better than chance did the excuses start coming out.

[TheHeretic]

If it is a physical process, the person shouldn't matter. If the twig shakes, it should shake no matter what.