'Curiosity' - NASA Mars Rover - Due to land 5th Aug 2012

'Curiosity' - NASA Mars Rover - Due to land 5th Aug 2012

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Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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0000 said:
Bedazzled said:
...but will they share the data?
Do NASA share all of their data?
Pretty much.

NASA is one of the most open organisations on the planet.

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Eric Mc said:
Needs its own thread really - not being a Nars Rover.
Nars?

MartG

20,700 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Eric Mc said:
Needs its own thread really
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=219&t=1239858&mid=83429&nmt=Chang%26apos%3Be+3+%2D+Chinese+Moon+Rover smile

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Hooli said:
Eric Mc said:
Needs its own thread really - not being a Nars Rover.
Nars?
New planet - haven't you heard?

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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Eric Mc said:
Hooli said:
Eric Mc said:
Needs its own thread really - not being a Nars Rover.
Nars?
New planet - haven't you heard?
Have we got a thread on it? I get all my news from here.

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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It's where the Nerds live.

annodomini2

6,868 posts

252 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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Bedazzled said:
China's 100kg lunar rover Chang'e 3 to be launched this year... details here



- plutonium-238 radioisotope thermoelectric generator and solar panels
- optical telescope for astronomy from the moon!
- far UV region camera
- radar to observe lunar soil to 30 meters depth
- panoramic, navigation and engineering cameras
- alpha particle X-ray spectrometer, infrared spectrometer

...but will they share the data?
I think they're sending it to the lunar landing sites to steal all the gold off the remains. wink

timbob

2,110 posts

253 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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Bedazzled said:
They should build a robust off-road buggy rather than another boring rover that plods about at 1mph and stops if it meets a boring pebble. Forget the geology, just fit a decent camera and go dune surfing with remote control via an iPad... bagsy first drive! hehe
Good luck with the time delay wink

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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It would be down the bottom of some cliff or ravine before you even knew.

dxg

8,229 posts

261 months

Tuesday 5th March 2013
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I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a... fraid.

mrmr96

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13,736 posts

205 months

Tuesday 5th March 2013
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Bedazzled said:
Curiosity computer glitch puts it in safe mode here. They think files in the computer flash memory may have been corrupted by cosmic rays!
Interesting update. I hope it can all be fixed and they can carry on. From what I remember reading about the computer on board it's very customisable - so they can make 'workarounds' for a great number of unforeseen problems.

Here's The Register's article on it. (Usually it's more techy that the BBC, but also a bit more flippant in headlines!)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/03/curiosity_...

ElReg said:
Nuclear-powered, laser-armed space tank Curiosity is currently working in safe mode, after one of the craft's onboard computers developed a memory glitch.

NASA has switched the craft to its “B” computer, a device identical to the problematic “A” unit, and says “a glitch in flash memory” is the source of the problem.

Curiosity carries two computers, Rover Compute Element-A and the spare Rover Compute Element-B. As we've reported previously, both are powered by a hardened 200MHz PowerPC 750 CPU. Each is equipped with 256MB of RAM, 250KB of read-only memory (in an EEPROM that can be wiped if required) and 2GB of flash storage.

While NASA has not revealed the exact nature of RCE-A's problems but says before it was shut down it “did not send recorded data”. As our previous report states the 2GB of Flash memory is where the rover stores data before beaming it home, it seems highly likely, based on NASA's statement, that it is that 2GB of flash and not the EEPROM that is the source of the problem.

Other reports suggest the rover continuously rebooted due to the flash glitch.

Whatever the source of the problem, Curiosity is now running on RCE-B, which is behaving as its makers intended, but NASA is keeping things simple by doing no science until it can figure out what's wrong.

Magdy Bareh, leader of the mission's anomaly resolution team has said, in a canned statement, that “While we are resuming operations on the B-side, we are also working to determine the best way to restore the A-side as a viable backup.

Oily Nails

2,932 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th March 2013
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Bedazzled said:
......memory may have been corrupted by cosmic rays!



So that explains him...Now what is wrong with the Mars Rover? wink

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

238 months

Tuesday 5th March 2013
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"Nuclear-powered, laser-armed space tank..." rolleyes





Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Tuesday 5th March 13:09

MartG

20,700 posts

205 months

Tuesday 5th March 2013
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Only 2GB of flash storage - sounds very small for current technology. Or maybe they could have used multiple redundant 2GB modules instead of just one per processor, forming a flash RAID array that would be resistant to corruption

Zad

12,707 posts

237 months

Tuesday 5th March 2013
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You don't use current technology for space hardware. You don't even use stuff that's a couple of years old, you use stuff that's tried and tested, and built using radiation hardened processes. http://www.baesystems.com/product/BAES_058248

The 2GB will be for the controller only. Each camera has its own 8GB local memory, rather than storing it on a central system. Systems designed for space recognise that cosmic rays cause random bits to flip in memory, and have lots of error detection and correction. If it is in flash, they will simply mark the sector as faulty and relocate the data after performing error correction, but right now they will want to understand the exact nature of the problem and use the information to develop strategies for the future.


jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 5th March 2013
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Can't they send one of the other rovers over to press CTRL+ALT+DEL?

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th March 2013
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jmorgan said:
Can't they send one of the other rovers over to press CTRL+ALT+DEL?
Given that it takes a rover 9 years to travel a handful of miles - I guess not.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 5th March 2013
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It has been doing some drilling.

Or the conspiracy nuts are correct and it is a hand rail fixing point they forgot to fill in.


Or Mars has worms...

mondeoman

11,430 posts

267 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Thats my patio ...

Blib

44,251 posts

198 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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BBC article said:
Mars rover Curiosity sees key water indicator.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21755976