Why does the Earth spin?

Why does the Earth spin?

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Eighteeteewhy

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7,259 posts

168 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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The moon doesn't as far as I'm aware?

So why does the earth, and what keeps it spinning?

Do all the other planets spin?


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SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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As a cloud of stuff clusters together it starts rotating. I don't know why it does that.

It has also been clouted by one or more hefty celestial bodies, at a glancing angle.

It keeps doing it because of momentum/inertia.

The moon does spin on its own axis, just at the same rate as it orbits us, so we only see one side of it.

Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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The moon used to spin more quickly, but it became locked into always facing the same way due to influence of earth's gravity. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_locking

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Interesting to ponder what would happen if Earth stopped spinnning. Half perpetual day and half perpetual night would shake the population (and vegetation) up a bit...

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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The moon does spin. It just so happens that it's spin is looked by gravity so that one side always faces the earth.

Nearly all the moons of the solar system are locked in this manner, with one side permanently facing their parent planet.

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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It is spin? Surely you know better than that?

FreeLitres

6,047 posts

177 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Simpo Two said:
Interesting to ponder what would happen if Earth stopped spinnning. Half perpetual day and half perpetual night would shake the population (and vegetation) up a bit...
Interesting thought!

We would roughly half the amout of food available and those living on the "dark side" would habe to try and move to the sunny side!

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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I'd move to the sunny side, and then opt to work nights.

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Simpo Two said:
Interesting to ponder what would happen if Earth stopped spinnning. Half perpetual day and half perpetual night would shake the population (and vegetation) up a bit...
Wouldn't be perpetual, zero spin, would equal ~6m day, ~6m night.

The sun side would be much, much hotter, dark side much colder.

Would probably impact magnetic field generation and probably result in a loss of the atmosphere.

FarmyardPants

4,108 posts

218 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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I thought Saturn was the fastest rotating but not googled it smile. As stated, the planets are formed by accretion which is the coalescence of matter due to gravity and some spin is inevitable as the masses collide. Tidal forces tend to slow the rotation of satellites over time, and the Earth's rotation is slowing. Eventually it will show the same side to the sun, not sure if there's enough time for that to happen before the sun dies though.

Eighteeteewhy

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168 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Right, so I get that things just spin? Is there any more reason for this, surely it has been investigated further.

People have said that the rotation is slowing down, by how much. How much longer was a day 100 or 1000 or 10,000 or 100,000 years ago?

Perpetual motion has been mentioned, is the earth or even the solar system the biggest perpetual motion machine perhaps?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Nope, because the sun will explode, and here Endeth the perpetual motion. Our galaxy is also on a collision course with Andromeda, so that probably won't end well.

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Eighteeteewhy said:
Right, so I get that things just spin? Is there any more reason for this, surely it has been investigated further.

People have said that the rotation is slowing down, by how much. How much longer was a day 100 or 1000 or 10,000 or 100,000 years ago?

Perpetual motion has been mentioned, is the earth or even the solar system the biggest perpetual motion machine perhaps?
The Earth is slowing down and has been since we were theoretically hit by the moon billions of years ago.

About 600M years ago a day was about 22 Hrs. You're talking a very small fraction of a second per year.

It's caused by many factors, but mainly the drag caused by the moon.

The heat in the earth is finite, the sun will run out of fuel, perpetual means forever, so no it is not a perpetual motion machine.

The current accepted understanding is that eventually the universe will expand so much that eventually matter will break down and there will only be photons left, possibly less.

Chilli

17,318 posts

236 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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All this is very, very interesting....but it's also doing my head in. So, let's say that the Earth gets away with being hit by something, and that Mankind stays as he is for, I dunno...a few million/billion years. The Earth would slow down to an extent that half the world would die...or move?
What about gravity? If the Earth slowed by say 50%, would I become 50% lighter?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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As I understand it.
The Earth is cooling and slowing and its dance with the moon will tidally lock the two and the pair will rotate around a common point, as they do now, but further apart and the moon will be fixed. Not just facing Earth. The moon is never going to escape the Earth despite its moving away, that is a result from the planetoid that hit us and the debris coalesced into the moon and gravity doing its thing. The mmon will cease to move away in about 15 billion years if it were left alone however there is a tiny issue in the way.

Back to the Earth. As the Earth is cooling it will eventually lose its magnetism as the crust thickens and the core cools and slows and our atmosphere will start to get hammered by the solar winds and eked away as the magnetic field will weaken.

We are doomed.

But the Sun will blow up before that.....


Stands back for someone with more learning to shoot me down.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Chilli said:
All this is very, very interesting....but it's also doing my head in. So, let's say that the Earth gets away with being hit by something, and that Mankind stays as he is for, I dunno...a few million/billion years. The Earth would slow down to an extent that half the world would die...or move?
What about gravity? If the Earth slowed by say 50%, would I become 50% lighter?
Gravity is a not based on the spin of a planet - it is based on the mass of the planet. Therefore, a planet or moon that has stopped spinning retains its same basic gravitational pull.

The earth's rate of axial spin is slowing (as has been explained above) but it is slowing at a tiny rate - and even when the earth is destroyed by the sun's death in about 5 billion years time, its spin rate will only be slightly slower than it is today.

Derek Smith

45,661 posts

248 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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annodomini2 said:
The Earth is slowing down and has been since we were theoretically hit by the moon billions of years ago.
I['m not sure the moon existed before the collision. It was more two planets hitting one another. The Moon is made up (at least according to some theories) of a mixture of the two planets.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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And the proto-earth would have been spinning before it was clobbered - although teh spin rate and axial tilt were probably altered as a result of the impact.

Chilli

17,318 posts

236 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Huh, you learn something every day....thanks gents.

Completely OT, but I was listening to Morgan Freeman the other day....I think he said that there were a billion stars in our galaxy....and hundreds of billions of galaxies. Now, these are just numbers that I am simply unable to compute.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Look up 'Hubble Deep field'. A postage stamp sized are of the sky that to us, had nothing on it. It was black. They pointed the telescope at this area, and kept it there for as long as they could, and this is the image that it produced.

Each of the 'blobs' is a galaxy. All this in an area that was the size of a postage stamp held at arms length, in which we thought there was nothing.



An animation

The numbers are mind boggling. As humans, we can only envisage numbers. Penn and Teller demonstrated this quite well I thought. When we think of 8, we think of 2 groups of 4. 9 as a group of 5 and 4, and so on. We can only visualise, and think of quite small groups. Anything above that and it becomes a lot, quite a few, loads, stloads, a fking shipload, and so on.