Red Bull Stratos: A Mission to the Edge of Space. 08th Oct

Red Bull Stratos: A Mission to the Edge of Space. 08th Oct

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mrmr96

13,736 posts

203 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Do we have any footage taken from on board Felix's suit as he fell? Presumably they had some, but I've not seen it online yet.

Johnny

9,652 posts

283 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Eric Mc

121,768 posts

264 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Video won't load for me. It says "Error on Page".

Johnny

9,652 posts

283 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Hmmmm. Have watched on the phone but can't view it at work, where I posted the link from.

Does this work?

What Felix Saw

Eric Mc

121,768 posts

264 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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It did - although postage stamp sized.

furtive

4,498 posts

278 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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It's on the BBC news site embedded in the report

hornet

6,333 posts

249 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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People on the David Icke forum are now calling the whole thing a hoax because "a helium balloon can't operate that high in the atmesphere(sic) where there's no air". Lovely...

Eric Mc

121,768 posts

264 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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How can you be "in the atmosphere" and experience "no air" at the same time?

perdu

4,884 posts

198 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Eric Mc said:
How can you be "in the atmosphere" and experience "no air" at the same time?
I'd suggest that it is not difficult for the hard of thinking Ickeites.


I suppose it was too much to want to see "all" of the Felixeye view. frown

A fabulous leap into history, I wish I had the balls...


dr_gn

16,140 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Amazing that somthing that's pretty much been done before generated so much interest worldwide. Just goes to show that all you need to capture public interest in "science" is to put a human in a high-risk situation and generate a bit of P.R. Imagine the non-event it would have been if they'd have dropped an instrumentation pack instead of a human...

Eric Mc

121,768 posts

264 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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That's always been my argument for manned spaceflight. No matter how cleverly we use robots - the public only get excited when someone's neck is on the line.

After all, we are humans and we can indentify and empathise with other humans.

Munter

31,319 posts

240 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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I think we feel that there is a difference between what instruments tell us a human could survive/cope with. And reality. So the only way we can say "Yep, a person could do that", is to let someone try it. It satisfies that bit of our brain that is cynical about everything.

Eric Mc

121,768 posts

264 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Yes much as I felt that the jump was more of a publicity stunt than a genuine scientific experiment - no one can doubt the technical prowess needed to pull it off and the bravery of Baumgartner. It certainly puts Kittinger's achievement 50 years ago in context.

dr_gn

16,140 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Similar to Bloodhound - there's the human danger element, but no practical reason for achieving the goal itself.

Eric Mc

121,768 posts

264 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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That's my view on these endeavours.

A bit like climbing Mount Everest.


Gruffy

7,212 posts

258 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Eric Mc said:
A bit like climbing Mount Everest.
"Because it's there"

Eric Mc

121,768 posts

264 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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And a good enough reason for many.

hornet

6,333 posts

249 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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perdu said:
I'd suggest that it is not difficult for the hard of thinking Ickeites.
Their current argument for it being "obviously fake" is that there's no continuous footage of the freefall, that the grey footage (thermal image?) is blatantly faked because it's not blue(!) and that there's no way his parachute could have slowed him down from 800mph. Apparently the Google links I provided (after literally minutes of searching) just prove I'm gullible and not thinking for myself. The whole thing is a publicity stunt, is obviously fake and I'm just an unenlightened sheep. Fun!

The annoying thing about it is there are obviously people with enquiring minds, but they're allowing that thirst for knowledge to be filled with absolute tosh. In the case of the Baumgartner jump, there's nothing wrong with asking questions about the composition of the atmosphere at that height, or the dynamics of his freefall, it's just that having done so, people aren't prepared for any sort of (scientific) answer that requires some actual thought or which disproves their tinfoil worldview. The whole thing is becoming a religion. Icke himself is giving a SEVEN HOUR lecture at Wembley Arena soon...if that isn't cult-like conditioning, I don't know what is.

perdu

4,884 posts

198 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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hornet said:
Their current argument for it being "obviously fake" is that there's no continuous footage of the freefall, that the grey footage (thermal image?) is blatantly faked because it's not blue(!) and that there's no way his parachute could have slowed him down from 800mph. Apparently the Google links I provided (after literally minutes of searching) just prove I'm gullible and not thinking for myself. The whole thing is a publicity stunt, is obviously fake and I'm just an unenlightened sheep. Fun!

The annoying thing about it is there are obviously people with enquiring minds, but they're allowing that thirst for knowledge to be filled with absolute tosh. In the case of the Baumgartner jump, there's nothing wrong with asking questions about the composition of the atmosphere at that height, or the dynamics of his freefall, it's just that having done so, people aren't prepared for any sort of (scientific) answer that requires some actual thought or which disproves their tinfoil worldview. The whole thing is becoming a religion. Icke himself is giving a SEVEN HOUR lecture at Wembley Arena soon...if that isn't cult-like conditioning, I don't know what is.
I guarantee he won't get me there smile

I'm no scientist, I can't do the adding-uppery and subtractery, but I am familiar enough with some of the facts/stuff about the atmosphere to despair at the lack of joined up thinking of these people.



Eric Mc

121,768 posts

264 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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There is no accounting for the dimness of a lot of people. The trouble is that the internet allows dim people an outlet to profess their dimness.