Does the UK have capacity to build like this again?

Does the UK have capacity to build like this again?

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Toaster

2,939 posts

194 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
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The question Does the UK have capacity to build like this again?

Capacity in terms of manpower?
or Capital investment
or Engineering knowhow
or Management

Its doubtful and more likely foreign investment, management and manpower would be put in place to achieve something like that....

Tempest_5

603 posts

198 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Are we allowed to consider "foreign investment, management and manpower" after Brexit ?

Terminator X

15,094 posts

205 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Simpo Two said:
Is an airport terminal really such a challenge? Box made of steel and glass, no?
6 floors afaik built underground + tube network extended etc. Example above ground:



TX.

Toaster

2,939 posts

194 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Tempest_5 said:
Are we allowed to consider "foreign investment, management and manpower" after Brexit ?
Probably couldn't do without foreign investment most major projects have this in and we couldn't do without which probably wasn't considers by the Brexiters..................after all there would be at least £350 M available to splurge around post Brexit. So once we are Masters of our own Destiny we can spend and build whatever we want as there would be no one to stop us as we make our own laws and print as much money as we wish.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Toaster said:
Probably couldn't do without foreign investment most major projects have this in and we couldn't do without which probably wasn't considers by the Brexiters..................after all there would be at least £350 M available to splurge around post Brexit. So once we are Masters of our own Destiny we can spend and build whatever we want as there would be no one to stop us as we make our own laws and print as much money as we wish.
rolleyes

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

99 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Yep.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Einion Yrth said:
Toaster said:
Probably couldn't do without foreign investment most major projects have this in and we couldn't do without which probably wasn't considers by the Brexiters..................after all there would be at least £350 M available to splurge around post Brexit. So once we are Masters of our own Destiny we can spend and build whatever we want as there would be no one to stop us as we make our own laws and print as much money as we wish.
rolleyes
Presumably after Brexit we can write in vaguely comprehensible English, too.

ninja-lewis

4,242 posts

191 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Terminator X said:
Simpo Two said:
Is an airport terminal really such a challenge? Box made of steel and glass, no?
6 floors afaik built underground + tube network extended etc. Example above ground:

TX.
All done under pretty tight crane height restrictions too IIRC.

Terminator X

15,094 posts

205 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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The roof was built at ground level and jacked up 50m, can't find any vids of it though.

TX.

hidetheelephants

24,428 posts

194 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Johnnytheboy said:
Einion Yrth said:
Toaster said:
Probably couldn't do without foreign investment most major projects have this in and we couldn't do without which probably wasn't considers by the Brexiters..................after all there would be at least £350 M available to splurge around post Brexit. So once we are Masters of our own Destiny we can spend and build whatever we want as there would be no one to stop us as we make our own laws and print as much money as we wish.
rolleyes
Presumably after Brexit we can write in vaguely comprehensible English, too.
One can only hope.

jshell

11,006 posts

206 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Mojocvh said:
Got me thinking, could the UK, today, do this again?
Biggest problem is getting rid of the feckers! Can't float them, not allowed to destroy them in-situ, what do you do? The Brent field is being decom'd now and the gravity bases will have to be left for the moment in the 'too difficult' box!

hidetheelephants

24,428 posts

194 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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jshell said:
Mojocvh said:
Got me thinking, could the UK, today, do this again?
Biggest problem is getting rid of the feckers! Can't float them, not allowed to destroy them in-situ, what do you do? The Brent field is being decom'd now and the gravity bases will have to be left for the moment in the 'too difficult' box!
Deballasting Ninian central would be quite 'interesting'! Presumably trying to do that with the concrete jobs results in not-designed-for stress and wacky transient instability problems(assuming they even come unstuck from the seabed)?

jshell

11,006 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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hidetheelephants said:
jshell said:
Mojocvh said:
Got me thinking, could the UK, today, do this again?
Biggest problem is getting rid of the feckers! Can't float them, not allowed to destroy them in-situ, what do you do? The Brent field is being decom'd now and the gravity bases will have to be left for the moment in the 'too difficult' box!
Deballasting Ninian central would be quite 'interesting'! Presumably trying to do that with the concrete jobs results in not-designed-for stress and wacky transient instability problems(assuming they even come unstuck from the seabed)?
It would depart the seabed at somepoint, but the level of buoyancy would be such that when the seabed stiction eventually gave up, the thing would head for the surface in a very random manner! I'd expect surface, tsunami, tilt, tip, glug, glug...fuhuuuuuck! hehe

hidetheelephants

24,428 posts

194 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Presumably it will remain in the 'ignore it and it might go away' category until the Noggies invent some amazing means of making Ekofisk etc. disappear, which will be equally challenging.

jshell

11,006 posts

206 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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There was one, Sleipner A in 1993, that self-destructed during sea trials and the devastation was, erm, complete! Only small pieces left. It showed that turning the concrete GBS' into artificial reefs was going to be fairly easy rofl , but of course, the Watermelons stepped in and now it's a problem waiting for a cost-effective solution.

Vipers

32,893 posts

229 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Mojocvh said:
Soon as I saw the pic I knew it was Ninian Central, was running diving operations just after it was put in offshore, and for years after that.


NEEP

1,796 posts

199 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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hidetheelephants said:
Presumably it will remain in the 'ignore it and it might go away' category until the Noggies invent some amazing means of making Ekofisk etc. disappear, which will be equally challenging.
Considering how TOTAL dealt with the MCP-01, a similar design all be it half the size I very much doubt that the Ninian Centrals concrete jacket will be going anywhere, here's the case study on the decommissioning of the MPC-01
http://www.hazardexonthenet.net/article/77019/Deco...