BBC axe The Sky at Night.

BBC axe The Sky at Night.

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Mojocvh

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16,837 posts

262 months

Saturday 14th December 2013
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I am well aware of your Pro BBC views.

Q. What was wrong with the previous female presenter and guest visitors? Perhaps just too highly qualified to present the soon to be dumbed down new format?

Or weren't they not "Right On" enough???

Read the article this time and inwardly digest.

Simpo Two

85,351 posts

265 months

Saturday 14th December 2013
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Well nobody is going to fill Patrick Moore's boots.

As for the new presenter, the discussion seems (sadly but predictably) focused on sex and race rather than whether she is the best candidate for the job.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

248 months

Saturday 14th December 2013
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Let's give her a couple of programs to see how she does before discussing her merits or lack of them.

Eric Mc

121,950 posts

265 months

Saturday 14th December 2013
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She's presented a number of space related programmes before. Some people are not keen on her voice but I have no problem with it to be honest.

She is a professional space scientist so her qualifications are as good as anybody else's - plus the fact that she has done a lot of "outreach" work over the years on space and astronomy.

The best thing is to give her a chance and reserve judgement on the programme when we have seen a couple of episodes of the new format.


Mojocvh

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Sunday 15th December 2013
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Simpo Two said:
Well nobody is going to fill Patrick Moore's boots.

As for the new presenter, the discussion seems (sadly but predictably) focused on sex and race rather than whether she is the best candidate for the job.
Indeed a very valid point worth raising.

""I've studied and worked in very male-dominated environments," says leading space scientist Dr Aderin-Pocock.

"When I got my first job with the Ministry of Defence there were a few times I walked into a room and someone would say, 'three coffees, love'."

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Eric Mc

121,950 posts

265 months

Sunday 15th December 2013
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What's the problem?

If that is a truthful account of her experiences then she is perfectly entitled to tell us about it.

She was studying for he degree around 30 years ago so it may not be the experience modern females have in the world of astronomy and science - but it was probably common back then.

You should read or listen to the stories told by Dr Jocelyn Bell.

im

34,302 posts

217 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Eric Mc said:
You should read or listen to the stories told by Dr Jocelyn Bell.
Is that the one who was constantly being groped by her male colleagues at meetings etc?

Eric Mc

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265 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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I hadn't heard that side of the story. It was more the fact that she found it difficult to be recognised professionally for the major breakthrough she had made.

Halmyre

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139 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Ironically, I know her name better than the two who actually won the Nobel prize. I think Bell herself has been pretty laid-back about it.

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 17th December 2013
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She has never let it get to her - too much. But she has certainly voiced her frustrations in most interviews I have heard her give.

The best interview was in the BBC Radio 4 series "The Life Scientific".

im

34,302 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Eric Mc said:
I hadn't heard that side of the story. It was more the fact that she found it difficult to be recognised professionally for the major breakthrough she had made.
My mistake, it was Kathleen Raven who's a Scientific American writer, here's her rather damning list of things that have been done her in the course of her professional career:

https://medium.com/the-power-of-harassment/acb05b9...

Not really appropriate but she is a damned attractive woman hehe

Simpo Two

85,351 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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She seems the type who will be offended if you hold the door open for her. Seems to have a bit of an issue with herself.

Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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<<bump>>
Who the hell is this new woman? She is bloody dreadful! Very, very knowledgeable, but piss poor at presenting.

Eric Mc

121,950 posts

265 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Maggie Aderin Pocock.

Very qualified individual who has worked on some major projects. She has presented a number of TV programmes before getting the Sky at Night gig but her style is certainly distinctive.

As was Patrick Moore's, of course.

Bisonhead

1,568 posts

189 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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I would have thought Lintott and/or May would have taken over presenting duties.

I quite like her. Enthusiastic, passionate, if a little hyper and a little too fast. Almost like a female version of Patrick!

Silent1

19,761 posts

235 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Eric Mc said:
Maggie Aderin Pocock.

Very qualified individual who has worked on some major projects. She has presented a number of TV programmes before getting the Sky at Night gig but her style is certainly distinctive.

As was Patrick Moore's, of course.
The james webb space telescope being one of them is it not?

Eric Mc

121,950 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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In think so - yes.

She's no dope.

Silent1

19,761 posts

235 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Eric Mc said:
In think so - yes.

She's no dope.
The optical sub assemblies no less!
This seems like a good primer on her with a wealth of links, I think rubbishing her for some perceived bias/ineligibility is very unbecoming of people indeed
Obviously that's not aimed at you Eric!

Mojocvh

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Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Silent1 said:
Eric Mc said:
In think so - yes.

She's no dope.
The optical sub assemblies no less!
This seems like a good primer on her with a wealth of links, I think rubbishing her for some perceived bias/ineligibility is very unbecoming of people indeed
Obviously that's not aimed at you Eric!
"Managing multidisciplinary teams" Stop right there.

Anyway, it is a pity that Eric's beloved [ hehe ] BBC no longer feel the program justifies inclusion on the iplayer.....

Eric Mc

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265 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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I was able to watch it on the Virgin watch again facility - and the BBC red button.