Russia and the ISS
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I have a feeling that Russia will get away with this scot free. I cant see this getting in the way of the space program, I can imagine the Russians are receiving a pretty penny from the Americans by letting them use their Boran's.
Will be interesting to see how this pans out though. There isnt the instant knee-jerk reaction to send troops in, obviously difficult given its the Ruskies but I really cant see any other country being militarily involved.
Will be interesting to see how this pans out though. There isnt the instant knee-jerk reaction to send troops in, obviously difficult given its the Ruskies but I really cant see any other country being militarily involved.
Bisonhead said:
I have a feeling that Russia will get away with this scot free. I cant see this getting in the way of the space program, I can imagine the Russians are receiving a pretty penny from the Americans by letting them use their Boran's.
Will be interesting to see how this pans out though. There isnt the instant knee-jerk reaction to send troops in, obviously difficult given its the Ruskies but I really cant see any other country being militarily involved.
What's a Boran?Will be interesting to see how this pans out though. There isnt the instant knee-jerk reaction to send troops in, obviously difficult given its the Ruskies but I really cant see any other country being militarily involved.
At the moment, the only way any humans can get to the ISS is on board a Russian Soyuz. It is the only existing man carrying spacecraft currently available.
Buran never entered service and only ever made one test flight - 26 years ago.
At the moment there is only one way of getting a human into space - and that is the Soyuz/R7 system which is 100% owned and operated by the Russians.
It will be at least 4 years before any alternative non-Russian system is available.
America is at the mercy of the Russians regarding access to a space station which it mostly paid for.
At the moment there is only one way of getting a human into space - and that is the Soyuz/R7 system which is 100% owned and operated by the Russians.
It will be at least 4 years before any alternative non-Russian system is available.
America is at the mercy of the Russians regarding access to a space station which it mostly paid for.
Eric Mc said:
Buran never entered service and only ever made one test flight - 26 years ago.
At the moment there is only one way of getting a human into space - and that is the Soyuz/R7 system which is 100% owned and operated by the Russians.
It will be at least 4 years before any alternative non-Russian system is available.
America is at the mercy of the Russians regarding access to a space station which it mostly paid for.
Now I know, and knowing is half the battle!At the moment there is only one way of getting a human into space - and that is the Soyuz/R7 system which is 100% owned and operated by the Russians.
It will be at least 4 years before any alternative non-Russian system is available.
America is at the mercy of the Russians regarding access to a space station which it mostly paid for.
What is in the pipeline for 4 years time?
That is me being optimistic. It could be closer to ten years.
NASA are ploughing on (slowly) with their Orion spacecraft.
Falcon have already test flown their Dragon capsule which eventually will be man rated - so MAY be flown manned by 2017.
The Dream Chaser mini shuttle is undergoing glide tests although these did not get off to a great start when the undercarriage collapsed on landing after its first glide test back in October.
NASA are ploughing on (slowly) with their Orion spacecraft.
Falcon have already test flown their Dragon capsule which eventually will be man rated - so MAY be flown manned by 2017.
The Dream Chaser mini shuttle is undergoing glide tests although these did not get off to a great start when the undercarriage collapsed on landing after its first glide test back in October.
Eric Mc said:
That is me being optimistic. It could be closer to ten years.
NASA are ploughing on (slowly) with their Orion spacecraft.
Falcon have already test flown their Dragon capsule which eventually will be man rated - so MAY be flown manned by 2017.
The Dream Chaser mini shuttle is undergoing glide tests although these did not get off to a great start when the undercarriage collapsed on landing after its first glide test back in October.
Isn't the USAF's shuttle thing capable of carrying people?NASA are ploughing on (slowly) with their Orion spacecraft.
Falcon have already test flown their Dragon capsule which eventually will be man rated - so MAY be flown manned by 2017.
The Dream Chaser mini shuttle is undergoing glide tests although these did not get off to a great start when the undercarriage collapsed on landing after its first glide test back in October.
Not at the moment.
As far as we know, they have no plan to build a manned version.
The X-37 that is currently being tested is too small to carry a human cargo. It is a proof of concept demonstrator. Any operational derivative will be bigger and is possibly at least ten years from flight - if ever.
As far as we know, they have no plan to build a manned version.
The X-37 that is currently being tested is too small to carry a human cargo. It is a proof of concept demonstrator. Any operational derivative will be bigger and is possibly at least ten years from flight - if ever.
Not at the moment.
You must realise how long it takes for a manned spacecraft to be -
specified by the entity who intend to use it
a contract awarded - usually through competitive tender
have it built in boilerplate and test versions
have it tested on the ground and in various aspects of its flight profile, including pad aborts
have it flown in unmanned mode on suborbital and/or orbital test flights
and, eventually, flown on a manned orbital mission
At the minimum it takes ten years.
Even during the heady days of Apollo, when money was no object, it took 9 years from the original concept of the Apollo Command/Service Module (1959) to be specified and for the first one to actually fly a manned mission (Apollo 7).
So far, the Indian space agency has not yet set out what type of manned spacecraft it wants - assuming it does want to proceed in that direction.
You must realise how long it takes for a manned spacecraft to be -
specified by the entity who intend to use it
a contract awarded - usually through competitive tender
have it built in boilerplate and test versions
have it tested on the ground and in various aspects of its flight profile, including pad aborts
have it flown in unmanned mode on suborbital and/or orbital test flights
and, eventually, flown on a manned orbital mission
At the minimum it takes ten years.
Even during the heady days of Apollo, when money was no object, it took 9 years from the original concept of the Apollo Command/Service Module (1959) to be specified and for the first one to actually fly a manned mission (Apollo 7).
So far, the Indian space agency has not yet set out what type of manned spacecraft it wants - assuming it does want to proceed in that direction.
SpaceX can do it - bolt a couple of seats to the floor of the Dragon capsule and it would do the job. It's not been man rated yet though.
http://www.spacex.com/dragon
http://www.spacex.com/dragon
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