Perpetual motion machines

Perpetual motion machines

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=287qd4uI7-E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO566k4nA3g

vid 2

anyone care to explain water one, as a little wheel to catch flow could generate electricity be it in small qualities.

edit it is Boyle's self-flowing flask but seems to work better here

but some good ideas on the video.



Edited by The Spruce goose on Sunday 13th July 18:50

motco

15,945 posts

246 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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The Spruce goose said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=287qd4uI7-E

anyone care to explain water one, as a little wheel to catch flow could generate electricity be it in small qualities.

but some good ideas on the video.
Yes, it's fake. The water finds its own level and that will equate to the level in the flask.

Simpo Two

85,394 posts

265 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Big thread on PM here a year or two ago.

bridgland

513 posts

224 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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http://youtu.be/wnJpMX-GXcg

Interesting video from Mythbusters which dispels free energy.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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motco said:
Yes, it's fake. The water finds its own level and that will equate to the level in the flask.
So five minutes then pitta out, they are interesting machines thou.

motco

15,945 posts

246 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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The Spruce goose said:
motco said:
Yes, it's fake. The water finds its own level and that will equate to the level in the flask.
So five minutes then pitta out, they are interesting machines thou.
Not even a few seconds.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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The Spruce goose said:
motco said:
Yes, it's fake. The water finds its own level and that will equate to the level in the flask.
So five minutes then pitta out, they are interesting machines thou.
Use your loaf. Think of the dough you could make if they were real.

motco

15,945 posts

246 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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SpeckledJim said:
The Spruce goose said:
motco said:
Yes, it's fake. The water finds its own level and that will equate to the level in the flask.
So five minutes then pitta out, they are interesting machines thou.
Use your loaf. Think of the dough you could make if they were real.
hehe

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

182 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Derek Smith

45,648 posts

248 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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I remember one at a science fair (you'd call it now).

It took two things to figure it out:

1/ a good length of time, and

2/ a mate who saw through it.

What fooled me was the generous degree of oiling taking place before the start. The idea being, of course, to reduce friction. However, the oil could only flow one way. It was, in effect, a simple balance. Cleverly done, although not by a scientist but by a 'magician.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

250 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Derek Smith said:
I remember one at a science fair (you'd call it now).

It took two things to figure it out:

1/ a good length of time, and

2/ a mate who saw through it.

What fooled me was the generous degree of oiling taking place before the start. The idea being, of course, to reduce friction. However, the oil could only flow one way. It was, in effect, a simple balance. Cleverly done, although not by a scientist but by a 'magician.
They really are good fun aren't they.

I'm determined to get little Ex interested in this sort of stuff, myself and Grandpa Ex are hatching fun build plans as we speak.

You have to admit that it looks so real to the untrained eye, and for some of them it is hard to believe that such a small amount of input energy keeps them running for so long.

I'll report back when we have some thing built!

otolith

56,078 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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I guess the trick to a really convincing fake is to use an effect which is not that well known and throw in some misdirection. Superconductivity, a light mill, maybe using the convection from the cooling...

bulldog5046

1,495 posts

178 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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I find this one interesting, anyone worked out the trick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlx2PgESXhs

budfox

1,510 posts

129 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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bulldog5046 said:
I find this one interesting, anyone worked out the trick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlx2PgESXhs
There isn't a trick. It's just a nice low friction environment which looks really clever. Leave it running for a few hours, days months, years. Whatever. It will stop.

ExplorerII

279 posts

134 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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It's plugged in to the mains.