Cygnus CRS3 launch failure

Cygnus CRS3 launch failure

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jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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ash73 said:
Russ35 said:
Another viewing area video - this one the correct orientation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ0SgAU9LXI
How is it possible to do such a bad job of filming it?!
Because people are generally rubbish at it, not their fault.


Spectacular though.

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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We are so used to viewing camera work carried out by professionals that we are very harsh on footage shot by ordinary folk - often using simple equipment like their mobile phones. If a rocket blew up only a mile or so from me I'd be hard pushed to keep my camera steady.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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People move camera's about too much, the farm incorrectly, they do not predict where the action needs to be, they have one camera and one take... the list goes on.

But, it is what we do so I expect it. No ones fault, no one is perfect.

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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jmorgan said:
the farm incorrectly,
??????

Magog

2,652 posts

190 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Eric Mc said:
jmorgan said:
the farm incorrectly,
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frame?

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Ah - a combination of errors. It should have been "they frame incorrectly" I suppose.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Magog said:
Eric Mc said:
jmorgan said:
the farm incorrectly,
??????
frame?
Yeah, typo and auto correct. So I probably spilled it wrong and auto spell did the rest. They frame is the correct phrase.



The Hypno-Toad

12,292 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Russ35 said:
Another viewing area video - this one the correct orientation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ0SgAU9LXI
When he says "it's going to be loud!" he wasn't kidding! yikes

Simpo Two

85,615 posts

266 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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jmorgan said:
I probably spilled it wrong
It's only Arthur bloody Bostrom! If we can't even spell there's no chance of making a rocket work.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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That's a shame, for many reasons. Hopefully they'll get to the bottom of it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Never take rockets for granted eh! Even in 2014 they throw up a few surprises.

BoRED S2upid

19,720 posts

241 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Fair play that was some launch! Better than any fireworks. This was unmanned yes?

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Yes, unmanned supply flight.
But by one of the two companies which eventually is hoping to do manned flights, so it's a bit of a setback. Currently only the Russians can send people up.

scubadude

2,618 posts

198 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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The crying videographer made me laugh- sorry but if they're honest people go for the chance it'll blow up, just like people watch motorsport for the danger.

I can also imagine in the sound-time delay between it clearly going all Pete Tong and the blast arriving a British or European crowd would have A, Made a joke or B, Laughed (or both)

I realise its a great shame, waste of time and money and lose of science but crying and running for your life? please... some perspective required me thinks?

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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BoRED S2upid said:
Fair play that was some launch! Better than any fireworks. This was unmanned yes?
Did you not realise that the Americans have had no manned capability since the Shuttle's retirement in 2011?

No American will travel into space on an American rocket until 2017 at the very earliest. It could be as late as 2020 - depending on whether the current plans survive various funding crises.

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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scubadude said:
The crying videographer made me laugh- sorry but if they're honest people go for the chance it'll blow up, just like people watch motorsport for the danger.

I can also imagine in the sound-time delay between it clearly going all Pete Tong and the blast arriving a British or European crowd would have A, Made a joke or B, Laughed (or both)

I realise its a great shame, waste of time and money and lose of science but crying and running for your life? please... some perspective required me thinks?
Listen to the audio from this Russian rocket accident last year. These are Europeans -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl12dXYcUTo

I think you are being displaying extreme ignorance of the force and power of watching a rocket launch in the flesh - and ignorance of the fact that if you are within a couple of miles of a large rocket explosion, you are actually in quite an amount of danger - from blast, shock wave, debris and toxic fumes.

Running away is quite a good idea.

rufusruffcutt

1,539 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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After watching that, I have a mental image of Jeff Goldblum running down a hallway in Washington.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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rufusruffcutt said:
After watching that, I have a mental image of Jeff Goldblum running down a hallway in Washington.
Wonder who is googling to see what that refers to?

scubadude

2,618 posts

198 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Eric Mc said:
Listen to the audio from this Russian rocket accident last year. These are Europeans -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl12dXYcUTo
That's abit different- they don't know where and on whom it will land. PLus they don't sound half as bothered IMO.

Eric Mc said:
I think you are being displaying extreme ignorance of the force and power of watching a rocket launch in the flesh - and ignorance of the fact that if you are within a couple of miles of a large rocket explosion, you are actually in quite an amount of danger - from blast, shock wave, debris and toxic fumes.
I have seen one thanks, its impressive but there is a degree of scared colonist about the previous video IMVHO, you put your fat arse that close you accept the risk (I realise most of the planet is too risk adverse to step outdoors anymore and must shout of Facebook and PH when they are scared) and it was a big bang but frankly all the calling out a deities name and crying is abit much- I fail to see why someone wouldn't edit themselves out if they'd been such a big girls blouse frankly?


Obviously in either case we don't know if the voices in shot represent an insurance company or science team with years of work or mountains of cash tied up in the launch- girly crying might be acceptable if its your kids college fund going up in flames!


Eric- its an unmanned launch, abit of levity is acceptable- I'm not laughing at the expense of someones life so get a grip man.

Eric Mc

122,098 posts

266 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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I think you still don't understand the sheer power of such an explosion.

I think the violence of the shockwave catches people by surprise - even if they are expecting it.

I am pretty sure that the microphone on the camera only relays a fraction of the power of that blast. The reaction is completely involuntary - and the fact that we hear something similar from a Russian indicates to me that it is a human reaction and not something unique to those you are referring to as "colonists".