Orion Launch Today

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Eric Mc

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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el stovey said:
Eric Mc said:
el stovey said:
Watching this in lovely HD on my telly. The coverage is really great.

Imagine if the moon landings could have been viewed like this instead of rubbish black and white 60s TV.
They were colour from Apollo 12 onwards - alhough most of us still had B & W TV sets.
I expect you've almost seen the entire evolution of televised space launches Eric? hehe
Probably. I was born in May 1958 so only missed the first couple of launches into orbit.

My earliest clear memory is watching the Apollo 8 launch in October 1968 - when I was 10. Before then I don't think there any TV relay satellites in orbit to allow launches from the US to be shown live.

A lot of the TV coverage of the early US manned launches can be found on youtube. From 1965 onwards US TV showed the launches in colour.

TobyLaRohne

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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Reminds me of Dr Evil with the countdown where he's sat inside 40-39-38-37.... "tell you what, when the doors close just go!"
What kind of micky mouse outfit is this, just light the frikkin candle already! hehe

Eric Mc

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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MrRee145 said:
How do they ever get anything off the ground? Seems to be 1 alarm after another...
Rockets are tricky beasts. Holds like this are not unusual.

rhysenna

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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Is the window for launch to do with the readiness of the rocket or something else?

jmorgan

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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MrRee145 said:
How do they ever get anything off the ground? Seems to be 1 alarm after another...
New stuff, learning etc.

6 aborts for the Shuttle? That must have been pain for the crews.

TobyLaRohne

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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twitter feed...HAHAHAHA!

Edited by TobyLaRohne on Thursday 4th December 13:33

MartG

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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rhysenna said:
Is the window for launch to do with the readiness of the rocket or something else?
Something else e.g. not hitting something already up there

RizzoTheRat

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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RobGT81 said:
You don't have these issues on KSP.
I was just thinking the exact same thing biggrin

Eric Mc

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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rhysenna said:
Is the window for launch to do with the readiness of the rocket or something else?
That - plus matters such as lighting conditions - both at the Cape and at the planned splashdown point in the Pacific.

The mission is scheduled to last about 4 hours - by which time it will be beginning to get dark in the splashdown area. They want to have decent daylight to observe the Orion as it comes down on its parachutes and to facilitate the recovery operation.

Most missions have much tighter launch windows because the spacecraft is being sent to a particular target in space, such as the Space Station or the moon. The movement of the target will determine when the launch needs to happen.

RizzoTheRat

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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MartG said:
rhysenna said:
Is the window for launch to do with the readiness of the rocket or something else?
Something else e.g. not hitting something already up there
For a mission to rendezvous with something, eg the ISS, it's a pretty tight window, for this mission which is just lob it up nice and high and let it fall back down again I'm surprised the window is as narrow as it is. Besides the risk of hitting something is it also constrained by how long they can leave it full of cold fuel before there's a risk to seals and other components?

ETA: hadn't though of daylight for recovery, good point.

rhysenna

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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MartG said:
rhysenna said:
Is the window for launch to do with the readiness of the rocket or something else?
Something else e.g. not hitting something already up there
Got to be honest didn't think of that. Cheers.

paul_y3k

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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RizzoTheRat said:
RobGT81 said:
You don't have these issues on KSP.
I was just thinking the exact same thing biggrin[/quote
true ... but in KSP my launches normally end up going BOOOOM !

CrutyRammers

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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They were saying it was for daylight earlier on in the broadcast.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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RizzoTheRat said:
ETA: hadn't though of daylight for recovery, good point.
I learned this watching the press conferences NASA held on Tuesday and Wednesday.

jmorgan

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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paul_y3k said:
RizzoTheRat said:
RobGT81 said:
You don't have these issues on KSP.
I was just thinking the exact same thing biggrin[/quote
true ... but in KSP my launches normally end up going BOOOOM !
My last one went boom with no launch. Over ambitious and forgot to throttle up first.

RizzoTheRat

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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paul_y3k said:
RizzoTheRat said:
RobGT81 said:
You don't have these issues on KSP.
I was just thinking the exact same thing biggrin
true ... but in KSP my launches normally end up going BOOOOM !
In KSP terms this is nearly as simple as you can get, lob in to an elliptical orbit and aerobrake back down again. Shows just how much more complicated the real world is. biggrin

Given all the massive improvements in technology, and the fact that this is a well proven system (7 heavy launches with one partial failure, the only one in 27 total launches for the Delta IV family) and they still have this many issues, it makes you realise just how much of an achievement space flight actually is, and the Apollo program in particular!

Eric Mc

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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I was just thinking how reliable the Saturn family was. I can't remember a single Apollo flight of any sort being delayed seriously because of holds such as this.

I wonder is that due to the fact that the F1 engines of the Saturn V (and the lower powered first stage engines of the Saturn 1 and 1B) used kerosene as their fuel rather than liquid hydrogen. Because kerosene is liquid at normal temperatures, it is much easier to handle and you don't get all the problems caused by the extreme cold soaking you get when handling liquid hydrogen?

marksx

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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Well, the stream is unwatchable for me now. Any more news on the success of the recycling?

Kateg28

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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I wasn't that bothered about space flight until I went to Florida in the Summer and we went to KSC. It was awesome. We attended an astronaut training experience and actually did a shuttle mission simulation and I was the Public Address Officer (they liked my British accent) in Mission Control. I now feel I could phone up and help with this mission.


Eric Mc

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Thursday 4th December 2014
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Seems to have gone OK but no word yet on whether they are going to come out of the hold.